38 replies to this topic

[ukzz4iroc]

Having said all that- if there is an ad with no price and I want it enough I just go straight in with a strong offer. That's how I got my Tomahawk!!

[WW-nut]

Id like to see all items for sale with a price, though agree sellers valuing a less common item would be difficult. So what about creating an online Tamiyaclub auction website?

If the fees were lower than Ebay surely there would be demand for it; another benefit would be the creation of an additional revenue stream to the people who run/own Tamiyaclub.com. An online Tamiyaclub auction website would end this problem of pricing items for sale for once and for all.

Already wearing my flak-jacket, go on shoot me down

WW-nut

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Even if I had the ammo I wouldn't shoot you down, it is a great idea, I even suggested it years ago, but I think it would be harder than we might think to get it right technically.

Paul.

[Singapore_959]

Even if I had the ammo I wouldn't shoot you down, it is a great idea, I even suggested it years ago, but I think it would be harder than we might think to get it right technically.

Paul.

Gets my vote too. TC auction site would be fantastic.
However I think it would be too hard to administer - how would the items listed be controlled eg. if tools started getting listed, then it next come tool boxes, then real car roof boxes (just to get you to the race etc etc), then "handy breakdown torch".... etc etc. TC could potentially end up with a monster that sucks up IT and moderator resources. And limiting it "just to Tamiya" is never going to work as we know from TC!


No price, it don't mind. I just like to know whats out there and then decide. Voted btw.

[WW-nut]

I agree to create a Tamiyaclub auction website is likely to be hard/ complex, but in this case hard/ complex is beneficial as the risk of similar websites being created is reduced.

Time consuming to administer; yes, but the revenue generated could pay someone to do it.

There are risks, but with the maturity of Tamiyaclub.com (over 26.5 thousand members at time of writing) there could be some very big rewards

[RichieRich]

"Before it goes to ebay"

Yeah, is this a threat? How about a Sales 101 refresher course?

[Origineelreclamebord]

Well, if someone has a price in mind, well yeah, then please list the price you're looking for... But for example... Someone has a part or a car for sale, and doesn't have a clue what it's worth... He can't find the part or car on ebay, so he doesn't have a benchmark for setting a price... Should he in that case list a price? I think it would be very reasonable to ask people to offer on it then...

1. You can decide whether the offers sound realistic/reasonable or not.
2. You know what it's worth to other people.
3. You know how many people are interested in it.


And what's the point of compulsory prices...? You will only get sellers that you email, or even worse, you already paid, and then start asking more money before they want to send the part/car. People will also start posting stupid prices like on ebay (much too high) or prices of 0 pounds etc... Does it make the situation better? Nah...

[adam1973]

How about once something has been sold, the thread/ebaylink (on the forum), (the amount of ebay links that are several weeks old, and older, is astonishing!!!!), gets removed by admin... a pm from the seller would be able to let them know. And on the showrooms, the same...the amount of listings that are still there even though they are no longer forsale and still listed as such... you might only find out that if you look after clicking the link.

[tamiyoman]

Agreed Dee, things I hate-

"Before it goes to ebay"
"Will not respond to low offers"- if you know what is low then you know what price you want for it so stop playing games! The only time I say 'offers' is when I genuinely don't know what it is worth and usually the best offer gets it. Simple.
"We all know what this is worth" So put a price in the ad!
"Testing the water" The phrase alone annoys me
"Paypal add 4%" Just add it to the asking price

Thants about it. As for the poll, I think the sytem is ok as it is, it's just some of the members

No pint saying paypal + 4% for several reasons.
!. Its against Paypal policy for a start, anyone asking for a % to be added can be reported to paypal and have their account cancelled.
Secondly if you let the seller know that you intend to send the payment as "Payment Owed" which is an option i recently got told about (Thanks Craig BTW!), there are NO FEES charged to either buyer or seller!.

In respects to other comments, i would like to add, if you get an offer to buy the item can we please have payment within say the next 6 months!, it seems that people on TC these days seem to take AGES to pay for an item they offered to buy and asked you to hold (i personally inform all buyers that the item stays listed and open to offers until payment is made, funnily enough this speeds things up a little!.
Thats my tuppence worth!.
Cheers

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The trouble with that Paypal option is that it doesn't offer any protection to the buyer for goods not shipped. Although it is arguable that Paypal protection isn't worth much, at least it is something in this world of increasing fraud.

Also you need the money in your account.

I have to say (as a buyer mind you, 100 time more active than a seller) buyers have far too much power nowadays. They want everything cheap, shipping for free and everyone to jump the moment they spend their 5 bucks on something, as if it were that important. Most people who sell stuff have another life too.

The Paypal rule about adding a percentage only applies to eBay transactions.

Paul.

[WillyChang]

yep its only an eBay rule... Paypal has no say how much seller charges on personal transaction

[adam1973]

I personally would never buy anything if was listed with the "Paypal 4%", and I never charge either.

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I am not quite sure about these 'positions' buyers take. Of course in a free market you can take your money wherever you please, but making a stand against someone else's policy when the goods might be very rare seems at the least short sighted. Do you really think that when someone is setting prices that they are not building in everything (like shipping, advertising, payment receipt) into the price even if those items are free? Simply compare the price to someone who has them included, if they are offering something similar, then surely it doesn't matter?

After all, I have done face to face trade with dozens of Eurozone sellers (who are the most likely to put Paypal 4% on their adverts) and they trade amongst themselves using IBAN (free banking) or cash. Then there are countries like Germany and Austria which are almost politically opposed to bank cards and payments. The theory is that why should someone pay 4% to a credit card company just because you can't be bothered to take the money out of your account and pay cash (I am taking about restaurants and hotels even here!) I spent a week in Austria earlier this year and didn't use my credit card once. In fact I tried in 'Billa' a large chain of supermarkets (this is a mid to high end supermarket mind you, not Kwiksave) and they don't take cards. At all! It is mostly in the (dare I say it lazier) countries like the UK and US that credit cards are so prolific and 'accepted'.

As the world squeezes a cheaper price and more and more free services out of everything, expect to pay for your 'free' services more in the future like Paypal, shipping etc. Sellers can't/won't over your costs if they are losing money :-)

Keep well and take the comments in the spirit intended!

Paul.

[adam1973]

What I meant is if you are going to sell an item, the price should be the price no matter how it is paid. If it is including any charges/profit that the seller wants then fine, but to advertise it PLUS a charge, then I'll walk. Make it an all inclusive price that is shown, a collection (cash/cheque...) and a posted (cheque/money order/credit card/Paypal....). Do the working out yourself and then post the price, if paypal charges, incorperate that into the price whether the buyer pays that way or not.