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[maherbeemer]

Gents,

I ordered the velineon traxxas vxl3's brushless system; I called a hobby shop and was told that it should work with no problems??? but now I am afraid I spent 160 dollars I still didnt recieve it yet, so I thought this is the best place to get some info on the installing the ESC and the brushless motor on the DF03RA, does it fit with no problems???? any feedback is very good. Thanks.

[Mud-Plugger]

It will fit with no problems.

[maherbeemer]

It will fit with no problems.

Ok thanks are you suuuure? i keep getting different answers??? do I have to mod something on the DF03RA????

[Mud-Plugger]

I can see where your queery lies. I have just had a look at their website and it shows the motor with a plastic end cap and the wires going back towards the output shaft. This is strange as I bought mine new and I have no cap and the wires come out in normal fashion away from the motor. Have wiggled it in and the motor mounting screws line up o.k.
If they're all as in the picture on their website I would think you would have problems as there is no space fo the wires to return across the chassis.

Mud

[maherbeemer]

I can see where your queery lies. I have just had a look at their website and it shows the motor with a plastic end cap and the wires going back towards the output shaft. This is strange as I bought mine new and I have no cap and the wires come out in normal fashion away from the motor. Have wiggled it in and the motor mounting screws line up o.k.
If they're all as in the picture on their website I would think you would have problems as there is no space fo the wires to return across the chassis.

Mud

**** man??? anyone installed it on here??? is there any hope????? I guess money went down the drain I should have bought the tamiya brushless motor.

[kaiser]

**** man??? anyone installed it on here??? is there any hope????? I guess money went down the drain I should have bought the tamiya brushless motor.

no you should have bought a hobbywing system.
best value in brushless by far.

but hey, it's on it's way right? wait until it get there and try it out. you may have to extend the wires or something.

[stu22]

You may be in some trouble here. I tried mounting a spare Velineon 10T in an Associated B4 and the thing would not line up correctly. The holes for the mounting screws are farther appart than on a 540 sized motor. This in turn made it impossible to get the pinion to mesh with the spur gear correctly. Taking a quick look at my DF03 and the Velineon motor I think the 550 sized can will be too big and even if it was not, you will not be able to mount the thing to the gearbox.

[maherbeemer]

**** man??? anyone installed it on here??? is there any hope????? I guess money went down the drain I should have bought the tamiya brushless motor.

I guess i'll wait until it arrives and see what I can do; do you think its only because the wires go the opposite way? as for the cap it can be removed from the motor.

[maherbeemer]

Check this out:

[maherbeemer]

You may be in some trouble here. I tried mounting a spare Velineon 10T in an Associated B4 and the thing would not line up correctly. The holes for the mounting screws are farther appart than on a 540 sized motor. This in turn made it impossible to get the pinion to mesh with the spur gear correctly. Taking a quick look at my DF03 and the Velineon motor I think the 550 sized can will be too big and even if it was not, you will not be able to mount the thing to the gearbox.

According to the specs of the 3500 motor its a 540.

[bossgrabber1970]

i had a traxxas velineon and from what i saw it has the standard mounting holes as a 540 size motor. as for the black cover, it's removeable but it will take a little prying to get it off. as for the wire length, you should be fine with no problems if you are using the traxxas speed control, those wires are pretty long. the esc and motor combo you ordered, is it the waterproof version?

[maherbeemer]

i had a traxxas velineon and from what i saw it has the standard mounting holes as a 540 size motor. as for the black cover, it's removeable but it will take a little prying to get it off. as for the wire length, you should be fine with no problems if you are using the traxxas speed control, those wires are pretty long. the esc and motor combo you ordered, is it the waterproof version?

Yes it is.

[bossgrabber1970]

there shouldn't be any issue mounting it to the chassis, just routing the wires so it won't contact the driveshaft to the front diff. the motor have 6 mounting holes so the motor can be positioned where you need it. one thing i learned about the esc is that it DOESN'T like excessive heat. i burned 2 of them out because of it. the cooling fan i had bought for it only did so much. just be careful on the gearing and watch the motor temp.

[maherbeemer]

You can see all the PDF files for specs from here.

http://www.traxxas.c...s_vxl3s_h2o.htm

[stu22]

i had a traxxas velineon and from what i saw it has the standard mounting holes as a 540 size motor. as for the black cover, it's removeable but it will take a little prying to get it off. as for the wire length, you should be fine with no problems if you are using the traxxas speed control, those wires are pretty long. the esc and motor combo you ordered, is it the waterproof version?

You're right, my problems with the B4 were with the Titan 12T and not the Velineon 10T. Sorry everyone

[maherbeemer]

Hey guys, found someone who did it, but it looks like its needs moding.

you can see the pics from here:
http://www.rctech.ne...366-post10.html

"I was making my DF03ra into a waterproof runner. To make the Velineon system fit I had to re-solder the motor connection on the opposite side, remove the end cap and make a spacer to extend the motor so I didn't have to modify the chassis. I also had to cut the ears off of the Velineon ESC so it would fit flush in the chassis. The Velineon system is simply too much for the car. It has so much torque that I think you could easily destroy the drive-train if you weren't careful.

I've since pulled out that system and put it in my Hyper 10SC. So now I'm gonna just put a Mamba Max w/4600kv combo in there and call it a day."

[bossgrabber1970]

"I was making my DF03ra into a waterproof runner. To make the Velineon system fit I had to re-solder the motor connection on the opposite side, remove the end cap and make a spacer to extend the motor so I didn't have to modify the chassis. I also had to cut the ears off of the Velineon ESC so it would fit flush in the chassis. The Velineon system is simply too much for the car. It has so much torque that I think you could easily destroy the drive-train if you weren't careful.

I've since pulled out that system and put it in my Hyper 10SC. So now I'm gonna just put a Mamba Max w/4600kv combo in there and call it a day."
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the mamba max 4600kv has more power than the traxxas 3500kv. so, in my somewhat "logical" thinking, wouldn't he have to worry more about drivetrain reliability??????? any ideas on this one????

[maherbeemer]

"I was making my DF03ra into a waterproof runner. To make the Velineon system fit I had to re-solder the motor connection on the opposite side, remove the end cap and make a spacer to extend the motor so I didn't have to modify the chassis. I also had to cut the ears off of the Velineon ESC so it would fit flush in the chassis. The Velineon system is simply too much for the car. It has so much torque that I think you could easily destroy the drive-train if you weren't careful.

I've since pulled out that system and put it in my Hyper 10SC. So now I'm gonna just put a Mamba Max w/4600kv combo in there and call it a day."
the mamba max 4600kv has more power than the traxxas 3500kv. so, in my somewhat "logical" thinking, wouldn't he have to worry more about drivetrain reliability??????? any ideas on this one????

True the VXL is only 3500kV, but it's also a long can 540 motor. More like a 550 motor. A side effect of the longer can makes the motor have much more torque. Also, the lower the kV the more torque a motor has. The higher the kV the higher the RPM which equals more speed.