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[Badboy]

Hi!

Has this been up yet?
I found it at Tamiyablog.com
84265 Hotshot (2007) Metallic Special
So for all you who collect all glitter and glam, now a Hotshot in chrome!!!

http://tamiyablog.com/

Badboy

[TongueTied]

That could be interesting. I always liked the Hotshot but have been resisting getting a rereHotShot. Maybe that will be the excuse I need to get one.

[WillyChang]

how so not original

Kyosho showed good taste in not gilding EVERYTHING... they plated
some classics in gold & chrome for their 40th anniversary
then never again...

[ideal2k]

Well, Tamiya could release a chrome Striker and a gold Sonic Fighter. That would really get people going.

[taliesin]

Well, Tamiya could release a chrome Striker and a gold Sonic Fighter. That would really get people going.

And put a dancer from the TV series SOLID GOLD in the cockpit as a driver figure - what's not to love?

[spudtrooper37]

This looks interesting thou

58517 Super Hot Shot (tentative name)

[Wandy]

Maybe it will look something like this?....from Jak Rizzo's showroom.

[breck]

I'm still waiting for the re-released Gold Metallic Pokemon-Transformer Bruiser.

[bjr250]

Tamiya Japan Link

Gold plated wheels and pre painted (gold chrome) body set.

[GregM]

OMG GOLD wheels!

[Japanscaledriver]

gold hotshot

[Mad Ax]

Not for me I'm afraid. I'm looking forward to the Super HotShot, whatever that might be.

[ideal2k]

I wonder if the chrome wheels will be more durable than the original chrome wheels, which would shed their chrome if you just looked at them funny.

[Wandy]

gold hotshot

LOL, so plated wheels and a gold body = metallic special? Lazy.

[SteelRat]

LOL, so plated wheels and a gold body = metallic special? Lazy.

To be honest Wandy, Most_of_Tamiyas_Recent_Re-res = Lazy.

Have to say I'm not feeling the love from the big T at the moment, especially when you consider what some of the competition is up to.

[Wandy]

To be honest Wandy, Most_of_Tamiyas_Recent_Re-res = Lazy.

Have to say I'm not feeling the love from the big T at the moment, especially when you consider what some of the competition is up to.

I'm not too upset by it, after all it's what they have been doing for years..ie padding out some very nice releases with some utter dross. They were doing it in the '80s too so this is nothing new. The company's fundamental goal is to be a money making machine and if nasty looking tat like the metallic specials contributes to the ability to re-release the cool stuff then I can live with it.

[ideal2k]

To be honest Wandy, Most_of_Tamiyas_Recent_Re-res = Lazy.

Have to say I'm not feeling the love from the big T at the moment, especially when you consider what some of the competition is up to.

I kinda agree with you, see the Axial Exo and even the Arrma Raider, and you see creative vision and flair, top class innovation, willingness to do something new. Even the short course cars many brands have, new.
Tamiya invented the entire touring car fad, so that's great, it's been solid for Tamiya, I understand their desire to keep pumping out new TT01 models every day, but it stinks in terms of creativity and innovation.

I would like to challenge Tamiya to do something new.
Make a new car that rivals the Axial Exxo or the Arrma Raider, create something new, innovate, challenge the other factories and create a new class.

Unfortunately there's no innovation going on anymore, Tamiya used to be very well engineered - who designed the Avante, where did he disappear to? Was he kicked out of the factory and replaced by the moron that created the pile of turd known as the TT01?

They need to get back whoever designed the Astute, Avante, Top Force, Dyna Storm, and have that guy do something along the lines of the Axial Exo or a 4x4 Short COurse truck or something.

Why can't they try and convert the TRF201 to a SC201 or something?? At this point anything would be better than "another TT01 model"..

[SteelRat]

I'm not too upset by it, after all it's what they have been doing for years..ie padding out some very nice releases with some utter dross. They were doing it in the '80s too so this is nothing new. The company's fundamental goal is to be a money making machine and if nasty looking tat like the metallic specials contributes to the ability to re-release the cool stuff then I can live with it.

That is true, but you surely have to draw a line somewhere. Whilst I'm not sure I entirely agree with ideals utter hatred of the TT01, because as an entry level car it does what it says on the tin, I do sympathise with the viewpoint that every other car has that as it's basis. Fair enough it gives people the entry in to the hobby; fair enough it's not supposed to be anything fantastic, but if you're going to release that MANY different bodyshells at least reflect that variation on a handful of different chassis'. Case in point is the TA03F (and it's derivatives). A 4WD front engined car for goodness sake! Even the weight distribution is realistic, so why not make more of things like that rather than just rehash the same old tat ad nauseum?

[Wandy]

That is true, but you surely have to draw a line somewhere. Whilst I'm not sure I entirely agree with ideals utter hatred of the TT01, because as an entry level car it does what it says on the tin, I do sympathise with the viewpoint that every other car has that as it's basis. Fair enough it gives people the entry in to the hobby; fair enough it's not supposed to be anything fantastic, but if you're going to release that MANY different bodyshells at least reflect that variation on a handful of different chassis'. Case in point is the TA03F (and it's derivatives). A 4WD front engined car for goodness sake! Even the weight distribution is realistic, so why not make more of things like that rather than just rehash the same old tat ad nauseum?

As has been pointed out on here before by people living in Japan, the probable reason they do what they do has to be because the home market likes it. At a guess I would say the reason the TT-01 is used so frequently is because it is a relatively cheap and steady performer good enough for the non-serious racer and those people are, and always have been, the bulk of the company's customer base.

[SteelRat]

As has been pointed out on here before by people living in Japan, the probable reason they do what they do has to be because the home market likes it. At a guess I would say the reason the TT-01 is used so frequently is because it is a relatively cheap and steady performer good enough for the non-serious racer and those people are, and always have been, the bulk of the company's customer base.

Completely agree about the TT-01 and what you say about the user base being "cheap steady performer good enough for the non serious racer", but I purposely used the TA03F as an example because it more or less ticks the same boxes (granted not quite as cheap, but by no means a "premium" price; at least not in stock form) whilst at the same time still considered by some as one of the best chassis to base a drift car on, which has been cited as those same people as something that is popular in the Japanese market at the moment. Sure, have cars that are cheap, easy to build and good fun, but why just have ONE chassis to release them all on? Why not mix it up a bit?

[ideal2k]

TT01.. cheap steady performer good enough for the non serious racer

You can not race this thing, if you put anything hotter than a sport tuned in it, it will just spin out and handles like an absolute pig.
I've had a proper go at turning it into a real car, I've used setup tools and tried every trick known to man, but it still handles like dung.
It handles "ok" if you have zero motor in it, and it snails along, but the moment you try and get it up to speed, it is an absolute pig.

For me it's not even suitable for bashing in the local parking lot, as it won't go fast enough for me to have fun, without it spinning out constantly.
The TA01 touring car handles substantially better, despite it being a more than ten years older design.

[Wandy]

You can not race this thing, if you put anything hotter than a sport tuned in it, it will just spin out and handles like an absolute pig.
I've had a proper go at turning it into a real car, I've used setup tools and tried every trick known to man, but it still handles like dung.
It handles "ok" if you have zero motor in it, and it snails along, but the moment you try and get it up to speed, it is an absolute pig.

For me it's not even suitable for bashing in the local parking lot, as it won't go fast enough for me to have fun, without it spinning out constantly.
The TA01 touring car handles substantially better, despite it being a more than ten years older design.

When I mentioned "non serious racer" I was really meaning "bashers", which is what I believe the majority of Tamiya enthusiasts are. This chassis is squarely aimed at them and, as you point out, if you want a better handling Tamiya touring car chassis then they are out there for you to buy.

[ideal2k]

Indeed, but they usually have exposed belt drive systems, not so suitable for bashing.

[MadInventor]

TT-01 is ok if you don't want use aything more pokey than a silver can in it. Ideal2k, I've been trying to drive the thing with a 8.5T eZrun and a 10.8V battery and it's impossible to keep in a straight line. With a 55tooth spur gear I can just get it up to half throttle, as soon as I give it more beans the tyres balloon to knife edges and it ends up spinning out quite ferociously. The other problem with the chassis of course is the motor and transmission layout, which causes the weight to be lifted off one front wheel when you accelerate hard with a powerful motor. People say it's a great entry level car, but no amount of bling will significantly improve it. When I was racing one with a tuned 27T motor in it on carpet, I had to adjust the steering trim as the battery went off through the race in order to keep the car running straight. A good entry level car is one that can be upgraded to a competition standard car (I'm thinking of manta ray -> top force, vanquish -> egress, etc). It would be better to sack the TT-01 design and go to a enclosed belt based design budget chassis that could be tweaked later with oil shocks, carbon chassis, bearings, motor, etc to make it competetive as your budget and interest allows. You need a basic good design to start with that can cope with a 300-400% increase in motor power and still be driveable. TT-01 is a bit like the Hawker Hurricane, it does the job it's designed for, but you can't really make big improvements to the performance of it. What we want is a spitfire inspired car (Over it's development life the spitfire went from 900-2400hp, increased top speed by nearly 100mph, more than doubled it's rate of climb, greatly increased it's range, etc).

[MadInventor]

Maybe it will look something like this?....from Jak Rizzo's showroom.

Talk about pimp my ride

Looks awesome though, much better than Mr Ts offering