J3cubfan

I remember the Holiday Buggy costing me $75 uSD in 1982.

I've got to admit. Very Nice job... Those XC chassis seem to be very versatile.

I did a review on this car awhile back. You can still find parts to restore it pretty readily. It shares the same chassis with the Bear Hawk Blitzer beetle and others. It would be a good car to start with when considering a restoration project. The only thing that you have to be aware is the body around the shock tower. http://www.tamiyaclub.com/car_comment.asp?cid=56

quote: Originally posted by DeeMillerquote: Originally posted by J3cubfan You can not compare restoring a Sand Scorcher or anything else to that of a 1:1 scale vehicle. It just doesn't make sense and trust me, I've tried to justify doing so.[:I]. id="quote">id="quote"> Why not? You have to think bigger, in fact, some models are worth less than the sum of the parts, others aren't. That also goes for RL cars. It's not the size that counts. I only use original screws, washers etc. for my Tamiya-models. I don't make parts myself, because they'll never become the original ones. I did the same thing on my 1982 RX-7, just to keep it original. For instance: I will not put the 13B engine in it, even if it fits with no problems. Early 1979-1985 RX-7's (originals) are worth more than the second generation (1986-1992, "re-release") in means of collectability So to get on topic again, I don't care about re-releases, they're not the originals. Grtz Dee id="quote">id="quote">I agree with you. You could buy a ragged out SRB chassis and sell it for parts and recoup your initial investment and get a little more back. But Where I was going with this was those who are using these cars as an investment instrument would be better suited putting their money in some other financial instruments in my humble opinion. Where I was going with my other point is the re-res can be a mixed blessing. While others state that its affects prices on Ebay and such, it allows those of the buyer, whose not necessarily a collector to purchase one of these cars or it parts and put them toward a current restoration. I made mention of the paddle trac tires for the sand scorcher. Since I don't have a Sand Scorcher anymore, a person restoring one of these cars could conceivable use the re released Grasshopper tires and wheels as part of their restoration process.

I've never owned either, but since I like MOPAR, I'd have to go with the Lunchbox.

I'll bite since one else has. Check on ebay. These things come up all the time. HTH John

I remember reading a thread awhile back regarding these two words, investment and Vintage Tamiya cars. In my opinion, these just don't go together. You can not compare restoring a Sand Scorcher or anything else to that of a 1:1 scale vehicle. It just doesn't make sense and trust me, I've tried to justify doing so.[:I]. I still have mix feelings over the re-res. If one wanted to rebuild a grasshopper or hornet, they could do it relatively inexpensively from just going to ebay. In fact, when I restored my Pajero, most of the parts that I used on that restoration where Grasshopper parts because they where so readily available. None of the re-releases really appeal to me as a collector. I've thinned my collection out quite abit and only kept the two or three cars that I had when I was in my childhood. What does appeal to me with the re-res are the fact that I could buy the frog not because of the kit itself, but I could turn it into a BRAT. My kids constantly ask me what I did for fun when I was a kid. Well the hornet and grasshopper are certainly a great why to spend time with the kids. It allows them to learn about basic mechanics and you get to relive your childhood experience.... So while my thoughts on these are mixed, I'd have at it. So looking at the re releases I can see both sides of the coin.

I've got some mixed feelings on the re releases. When I found out that the hornet and grasshopper where going to be re released, the main thing that came to my mind was, I wonder if the tires where going to be the same as the originals. You know those paddle trac tires that upon until now where fetching about $80 usd for rear and $40 usd for the fronts. Well I was delighted to see that the re-re's fit just as good as the originals. As for the SS thread. I am glad I read it when I did. I would have been suckered into believing it as well. As for what Tamiya has re released, I am not a lunch box/willies fan. I have a Grasshopper and parts for those where never really that expensive to begin with. There was always a glut of these on Ebay. In fact the only thing that was expensive where the wheels and tires. As for the Frog. I wouldn't mind getting my hands on one those not because I like the Frog persay, but because I can build a Brat out of it. That is assuming that they are using the same set of chassis parts etc that they did 20+ years ago.

I just ran across this thread. Do you have any "B" parts for the Holiday buggy? Thanks John

Hello all: I am looking for some "B" parts for the holiday buggy. Mainly the rear posts(B8) and front clip(B3). If you have some spares let me know. I've got cash waiting. Thanks John

Holiday buggy body posts and front clip. Plenty of tires and you even see a body come up every once in a while

quote:Originally posted by Dephcon5Changed my mind, 3 speed would be nice, but out of reach for a few. My vote is for the Sand Rover. That is an easy re-release and what a fun little buggy! id="quote">id="quote">You beat me to it. I've always thought that these would make a nice complement to the Holiday buggy. I'd do mine up in a nice clear coat camel yellow....

This might have been covered already, but here goes. I have a Tamiya Holiday Buggy that I am about finished with the restoration and noticed that some of the parts, mainly the front clip and rear body posts are brittle and easily break. I was wondering how reproduction parts would hold up. I thought about making these out of resin. Anyone have experience making reproduction structural parts?

quote:Originally posted by Shodogthese are on ebay now. I bought a frog and rough rider yesterday id="quote">id="quote">You mean that the Rough Rider has been re-released. I know the frog and Grasshopper both have been.

I've gotta say, its looks great. The silver wouldn't have look too shabby either...

Why not, it would be like a pilgramage to Tamiya R/C Meca...

I've got agree. This seems to be a debate on the restoration of the 1:1 scale muscle cars as well. Where a purist would insist that every part down to the last nut and bolt should be original equipment, there's no shame in updating your restoration project with more modern electronics. I've seen some shows where they would update a '67 Chevy Nova with 21st century type suspension, engine or whatever. In my opinion, why would you want to use original parts (i.e. a MSC) when you can get alot more bang for your buck with an ESC. If this where 5 or 10 years ago when ESC where prohibitivly expensive, I would have agree with you. But a MSC over ESC, I'd choose the ESC.

I remember seeing these growing. I reminded me of the Dallas Cowboys football team colors. If I remember correctly, they where the blue background color and kind of a metallic silver. They usually had the silver inner hub caps if they where from the factory.

In my humble opinion brake fluid works the best. I've tried Easy Off and really didn't think that it was that great. Brake Fluid does have its draw back though. If you are going to use it keep it outside or a well ventalated area. The stuff isn't the most pleasant smelling. What I did was leave the body imersed in the fluid and within a couple of days, the paint came right off with little or no effort. HTH John

If nothing else, thats a pretty neat way to transport 1:1 scale rough rider.

Once again Jim, you've out done your self. John

Hi Ed: I found that the SC seems to have a most robust steering system then the other SRBs. More durable tie-rods and ends plus a better servo saver. IMHO John

Hmm, so does that mean that the rough rider could conceivably fit in the bed of the clod buster? 8p

quote:Originally posted by TWINSETCould someone explain Mopar please. I was in the US a while ago, reading a Mopar mag, and the tagline read 'If you have to ask, it aint for you' or something like that. id="quote">id="quote">What Mopar is, is the parts division for Chrysler, Plymouth and Dodge. Its kind of taking on a spirit of its own. In fact, there are several team sponsored cars, NASCAR, ARCA, CASCAR, Craftsman series cars that are MOPAR. So what does it mean, MOPAR? Its just the Motor Parts producing unit of Chrysler/Plymouth/Dodge.... HTH John

quote: Originally posted by Voltar It may be that Tamiya is testing the waters on their re-releases. The XR-311, Lancia, Dyna Storm & 6 wheeler did not sell well. The Willy II seems to be the best selling one around here. They may be watching the Hornet numbers before doing another one. Of course they are watching the numbers. Jim id="quote">id="quote"> As much as the XR-311 surely bring back some memories from those who built it back in the early 80's, it really not well known now and really if you think about it, the vehicle itself is kind of obscure. Same with Tyrell in my opinion. The Lancia if I am not mistaken was a completely different configuration then the original so maybe that answers some questions about how a Sand Scorcher would do with an up to date chassis.