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I will drop by after work on Monday to see if anyone still is there, no need to hang around though. I haven't had a run with other people for ages and it would be good to catch up with Paul and Mark.
There is a small playground area at Boondall but it well away from the track on the other side of the lake. There are also some concrete paths through the complex that I have seen kids riding bikes but nowhere that you could stay in one place and supervise them.
Edit: It is highly unlikely that anyone will still be out when I finish work as it will be going on 2 o'clock. I will go past on the way home just in case there are any die-hards still there.
Thankyou for a lovely Autumn morning at running buggies at Boondall. Good to catch up with the old faces and meet some new ones. Here are some photos. There are also some videos from today at
http://www.youtube.com/user/BondallBuggy/
http://www.youtube.com/user/BondallBuggy/videos?view=0
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The shiny Mabuchi-stickered motor in the 2nd picture is the same I got with my Re-Re Hornet and Re-Re Hot Shot.
Would go for an ESC instead of MSC, too. However, the Hornet will drive you nuts anyway, so have fun!
My 1984 Hornet which I have had since new has a replacement chassis from the 1990's when I broke the original. Under where the steering servo goes & inside the chassis there is RCC Grasshopper and above this in a circle is Made in Japan. I presume the original 1984 chassis would be the same? The Re Release has RCC Grasshopper and above this in the circle is a part number. This would confirm that the differences in the cut out for the battery hump pack mentioned by others earlier mean the chassis at least is the Re Release Hornet. The motor as well as the body as others have said is also from the Re Release. That doesn't mean that the buggy isn't a hybrid of new and old but my bet it is a Re Release Hornet. If so an ESC is apropriate and a much more reliable and controllable speed controller than the MSC.
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Hi all!
Did anybody try the newly released Tamiya 84258 aluminum Damper set? Any pictures on a FAV, or any experience?
I just had seen one picture from the shocks extended and they appear to be same size as Wild One shocks to me.
Thomas
Hi Thomas
I have the Tamiya 84258 aluminum Damper on my FAV 2011 and they seem to be great. I must admit I did not try the FAV with the pogo stick springs on it before mounting the damper/shocks but I would imagine the improvement is significant. The damper/shocks seemed to go together well and were easily installed on the FAV. The rear springs are very stiff, a bit like the Re release Frog shocks, but seem to work well as I run a heavy 4400mh Ni Mh 7.2volt battery.
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Hi Mark
This buggy looks like it will be a rare beauty. Looking foward to seeing it being built. Is the Killer the buggy that killed off the potential re release of the Tamiya Fox?
Happy New Year to you and all those on Tamiya club around the world.
Buggy Boy
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Also keep in mind to build the collection for your OWN satisfaction. There is much speculation about which Tamiyas will collectable in the future and therefore escalate in value. The fact is we're likely at the peak now. As we collectors or keepers of the Tamiya faith die off, there won't be many replacements. The cars mean something to OUR generation and now we have the money to collect them. In the future its unlikely a 5 year old today will seek out , say, an SRB, 30 years down the road. In other words, if you like it and its place in the Tamiya history books, get it to make yourself happy.
I disagree with the peak of the Tamiya buggy value being now. There is a lot of interest at the moment as the re releases by Tamiya bring back memories of 20 to 30 years ago. The age group that Tamiya are targeting is around the late thirties early forties as I suspect many of the members on this forum are, which I call the buggy boomers. This the age group that lived through the original buggy boom in the 1980's. The age group now looks for a distraction from their own children or enjoy buggies with their own children/nieces/nephews and some may be entering the age of the mid life chrisis.
The age group will no doubt be earning their peak earning power as they near retirement in whatever occupation they undertake. This is when the price of vintage Tamiya and the re releases will earn their peak in money value. Some will also be looking for a hobby once they reach retirement. This will be around 20 to 30 years time. There is the chance that Tamiya will also do a 2nd re release of the vintage buggy range around this time, which would be great as it will make spare parts available again but possibly effect values of vintage buggies as is happening now.
Another 10 to 20 years after the peak as the original buggy boomers start to end up in retirement homes and pass away the price of vintage buggies will slowly drop as the generation dissappears. No doubt some of these will end up in the musems, garbage tips and antiques roadshow or equivalent of that time.
Meanwhile collect what you collect, build what you build, run what you run now and enjoy the wonderful hobby of Tamiya as it isn't all about investing for the future.
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I'm thinking of buying a Hornet Re-Re. I was curious what the run times are for a bone stock kit with 1800mah NICD, and 3000/4000mah NiMH packs?
G'day
I easily get 1/2 an hour with my re release Hornet running a stock re release speed controller and silver can motor. The battery I use is a 4600 Ni Mh. The battery is a little heavy for the buggy but not greatly different handling from a 1500 Ni Cad which is a lot lighter.
The Hornet has a distinctive noise on the track as the rear wheels spend so much time in the air spinning. I am suprised no one on Tamiya club has taken sound bites on Tamiya club and had a forum game like who can guess the vintage Tamiya buggy noise eg The Hornet, The Frog etc?
Thanks Ian
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I have had alot to do with both.
The Boomerang is way more advanced than the Hot Shot,
Has a tub chassis (easy to get to all electrics)
Better Mono shock front end.
Better dual shock set up in the rear.
Has 1dg more rear toe in ( Slightly more rear grip)
Better steering set up. ( No bump steer.)
Lighter. (Better acceleration )
Bumper is better ( Hot Shot is fragile)
Better under guard. ( Hot Shot is a lot better with a Super Shot under tray but aren't Cheap)
Well i love my Hot shot too but my Boomerang is very quick
In fact a was racing in Sport Tune class at a vintage meet and was on a Top Force behind for Lap after lap. I had a tiny bit more grunt out of the corners. He had a ever slight more top end. he went a little wide and a got through. Got third in the final. Only thing a changed was shocks.
Boomerangs ROCK....
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I would get the Boomerang as a runner for all the reasons Mad Racer says. He loves his Boomerang and as I also own one with a brushless motor.
Also the re release Boomerang according to this website is discontinued.
http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=58418
So get the re release Boomerang first and get the re release Hotshot at a later stage as the Hotshot should be around for a while.
Thanks
Ian
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It's pretty amazing seeing what kind of mods people did even back then. I'm astounded to see someone running a carbon fibre chassis pan in 1984. I thought those were a 90s invention! Must have cost them a royal mint at the time.
Top stuff though
I remember you could get carbon fibre which was also called a graphite chassis for a Hotshot. That was a little later around 1985. I also remember graphite tennis rackets which were very expensive in the 1980s. Ian
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how can i get oil dampers to fit my grasshopper 1 will the rear oil shocks of the hornet fit
Hi Grasshopper 1
The Hornet shocks will fit on the original Grasshopper. If you are using re release parts you will need plastic sprue D parts from the Hornet - part number 9005156, Hornet screw bag A - part number 9465639 and Hornet damper parts bag - part number 9400273. With the screw bag A and the damper parts bag you will have parts left over you might want to use as spares. These parts will also allow you to modify the Grasshopper front springs to Hornet friction dampers.
Hornet kit assembly instruction books can be found on the net if you need help. If you need more help please let me know
Have fun
Buggy Boy in Australia
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Awesome. Foxes are way underrated. I've seen a few hang with the RC10s back in the day.
A re release Fox would be wonderful please Mr Tamiya. With 2011 being the 25th anniversary of the 1986 Fox release next year would be ideal. A 2012 re release of the Superchamp's on the 30th anniversary of the original 1982 release would also be fab. Surely a re release of a Sand rover on the DT 02 chassis is not too far away either?
The photos of your Fox are foxxy Mark!
Ian
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I dont think i could pinpoint an exact year but for me it started in sept 84 i believe.
I really like 1984 as the buggies had heaps of character. The Frog and The Hornet were very popular and fun but hard to drive.
Then 1985 came and the Hotshot arrived which instantly showed how badly the earlier buggies handled. The Fox also arrived in about 1986 and was a step above the earlier 2wd Tamiya buggies. Buggy racing became serious with the advent of the Hotshot and later Fox here in Australia and took some of the fun out of it for myself. The price of a Hotshot bearing set was high in 1980's money and out of my budget. Then there was the aftermarket hop ups which started to appear in around 1985 which also made competitive buggy racing expensive for many who were serious racers.
Other non Tamiya buggies I remember circa 1985 were The Mugen Bulldog 4wd, Yokomo Dogfighter 4wd and the first RC10 which was a step above the likes of The Hornet and The Frog in terms of 2wd handling.
1984 does it for me as the pop music of the time made it a classic year.
Ian
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Hi folks
I'm sure you guys will know how to prevent tyres cracking with age, i have an old wild willy and the tyres are starting to crack, is there a way to stop and also repair this?
Hi vintage tyre preservers
To avoid cracking take the weight off the tyres. If they are on the model please put it up on blocks with the tyres off the ground when not in use just like storing a 1:1 car. This is better than taking the tyres off and storing them on their sides or leaving the tyres on the car and distorting under the models weight. Apart from that avoid sunlight as others have said.
Thanks
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Hi Ian,
Your problem with the vibration is the thundershot drive shafts. They're too long to fit in the front of the hotshot. Hotshot \ boomerang front drive shafts are shorter than the rear. Tamiya made thundershot shafts the same length front and rear, but standardised on the length of the hotshot rear drive shaft. On the plus side, they fit perfectly in the rear of the boomerang.
Best wishes,
Martin
Hi Martin
Thanks for you advice. I have swapped the Thundershot uni driveshafts for the Tamiya DF-02 uni driveshafts on the front and it appears to have fixed the vibration. I will put the Thundershot driveshafts in the back of the Boomerang re release when I get time and give it a test run.
Ian
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Hi
I have the very similar Tamiya re release Boomerang with an Ezi run 9 turn and coincidently enough I spent yesterday evening pulling apart the front gearbox to find out the source of some vibration in the front wheels. I have replaced the front drive cups but not sure if this has fixed the problem. I also have uni joints on the front from a Thundershot which don't appear to have bent shafts so still trying to figure out what the problem is. Interestingly the front gearboxes gears are still in suprisingly good condition; I was think I would have to replace the gears after 6 months of use but they are Ok for now.
The 9 turn Ezi Run is running a 13 tooth pinion as 15 tooth is too fast for my driving ability. I have also programmed the Ezi run to have the timing retarded and the punch off the line is very soft with hard braking. The hard braking is what is wearing the drive cups on the rear of the slots and I suspect this is what is causing the vibration. These cups are made from black metal, does this wear quicker than the chrome/silver coloured axle drive cups? The Thundershot front uni joints appear not to be sloppy so I don't think this is the problem.
Anyway I find the Ezi run 9 turn is a bit overpowered but you can always gear it down and programme the esc to minimise punishment on the Hotshot drivetrain or try a 13 turn Ezi run. Bear in mind impact speeds are higher with a brushless 9 turn if your Hotshot has an accident so make sure you have a good supply of spare parts or access to spare parts from the web or your local hobby store etc.
Interestingly I have heard the lates Hotshot its are made in the Phillipnes. Is this correct/has anyone seen the non Japanese made rerelease Hotshot kits?
Thankyou
Ian
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At the moment it usually every second weekend (weather permitting).
Occasionally we have a run on the off weeks as well to make up for one that was missed or on along weekend.
If you do come over you would be most welcome and even if it is an off week there might be some people out running anyway.
Here are some Hi Definition videos on U tube of a Tamiya Super Champ and a Super Shot in action at Boondall on 19th June 2010.
http://www.youtube.com/user/BondallBuggy#p/u/1/smOFPbqhbTo
http://www.youtube.com/user/BondallBuggy#p/u/0/fPMOIRHg_BU
Thankyou
Ian
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Have you got any pics,,,?????
Hi
Here is a photo of HPI shocks on my Buggy Champ as a small file. A guy at my local buggy track told me that he had read on a forum that these HPI Cup Racer shocks fit the Buggy Champ, so thanks dude, you know who you are. The rear shocks were cleaned last night so they are more pristine than the Buggy Champ. I have had rear shocks on buggy for a couple of months but front shocks were only fitted last night. On the rear they work well and together with a ball diff installed a few weeks ago they transform the handling of the buggy into a great handling vintage buggy on tar and hard dirt. The HPI front shocks I am sure will help as well. Thanks Ian in Australia.
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I'm building up my re re SS and having a load of fun doing it. The chassis is a mix of mirror polished ali parts and some painted... check it out.. http://www.tamiyaclub.com/showroom_model.a...5&sid=32228
As you'll see I painted shock red and think they look great, but they are rubbish at thier job. I want some nice coil over shocks, there have been a few people asking the same question but its never really been resolved. The best idea seemed to be some tamtech ones. But I can't find anywhere to buy them.
I'm sure someone has found a perfect replacement.
All ideas welcome. Look forward to hearing from some of you..
thanks
Hi
I have HPI Cup racer shocks fitted to my re release Buggy Champ, but they would fit just as well on a S Scorcher. They have coil springs but the gold ones supplied in the shock kit are too hard for an off road buggy, but softer ones are available. I run my Buggy Champ without the springs using only the Tamiya rear torsion bars and front spring that came with the kit. I hope this helps. Ian in Australia.
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Just mine and im in UK, got it from time tune models. Looks good to me but no doubt it wont be fitted for months lol knowing me!
Probably build it up sooner to see how it feels. Not cheap so hope it works and lasts well really.
Do hope tamiya bring out some more cool hop ups to!
Just waiting on my SS bodyset now!
I have fitted the Tamiya ball diff to my re release Buggy Champ and it works well. It needs to be adjusted fairly tightly by rotating the rear wheel as explained in the instructions but once set up the limited slip function works. It makes a hard to drive car like the Buggy Champ/S Scorcher without a diff into a great handling vintage buggy. I have also replaced the standard Tamiya shocks with HPI Cup racer shocks and this helps handling and the shocks don't leak oil. The Tamiya Ball Diff is a must for the Buggy Champ/S Scorcher if you want to drive it on anything other than sand or other low traction surfaces. Thanks Ian
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i bought a carson 7.2v 2700mah hump pack for now. clicky
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I have a couple of Venom 3000mah 6 volt ni-mh batteries and they fit one at a time. Only 6 volt so the buggy champ isn't super fast but it works well and has a 30 minute run time. There is also a 240 volt Venom charger to suit which at slow charge of 0.8 amps takes around 3 hours to charge and around 1/2 that time on fast charge. Thanks Ian
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I wonder how our track will be this weekend after all the rain? I actually drove past there today but was in the car with my boss so couldn't pull in to have a look unfortunately. Should be dry if we have no more rain, I hope.
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Hopefully the track is OK and no wash outs after that rain.
If anyobody who goe to Boondall running days has any 1980's Tamiya RC Guide Books they want to swap please let me know. I have duplicate RC Guide books from the 1990's and 2000's to swap along with Tamiya catalogues from the 1980's, 90's and 2000's. Wanting to add variety to my collection.
Thanks
Ian
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Hi
Here are some photos from today at Boondall.
Thanks for a great morning running buggies.
Ian
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Hey Ian
the next run will be Saturday the 30th January at 9am. Come along and have a run. It's a relaxed, no pressure environment and all the guys are really friendly and eager to help. We spend as much time talking as we do driving.
Left my camera at home so no pics of the last run sorry.
Thankyou for the information. It sounds like great fun sharing an interest in Vintage Tamiya - and running some old style buggy's as well! I will try to get there. Ian aka Buggy boy
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Should be there. Trying to bring something different to the last 2 get together s. A stadium blitzer & a blitzer beetle.
Hi, I have only just joined Tamiya Club and live in SE Qld. I am very interested in your running of vintage Tamiya at Boondall. Could you please tell me next run date time please? I am sorry I missed the run day on the 16th January. I look forward to some photos of the run day on the 16th, if anybody took some, being on this forum. Thanks Ian aka Buggy Boy
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I am still interested as well. I live on the northside not far from Boondall so I can meet you up there or on the Southside when you decide where and when. Like many of you guys I have kids and they take up a lot of my weekend time so I rarely go to Boondall now days but I do have free time sometimes. I have been building the re release Tamiya off road as they come out and I am keen to give them a run. The kids have taken an interest and I want to build them a re release each in time for Christmas, probably a Hornet and Grasshopper. Cheers. Ian.