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  1. Scoobybooster's got it correct. 58005 came with white body, 58008 with black body. In theory it's of course possible that some 58005 kits got black bodies and 58008 kits got white bodies, but I've never seen it and consider it highly unlikely. Anyway, both body parts sets in the photo are re-release sets. The Celica bps was first re-released in 1999 and then several times after that, the last time according to my records, in 2008. It was re-released with item number 49113, but as far as I remember, it was also available as what Tamiya refer to as "event item", in which case there often isn't any item number on the item at all. The Countach bps was first re-released in 1998 with item number 49095. 49095 was definitely molded in white, but I won't exclude the faint possibility that 49095 was offered in black too though I've never seen it. The Countach bps was then again re-released in 2002, but with item number 49221. This time in black, and most likely the one you have. As the part name/description stated "Black", alternative colours are even more unlikely than for 49095. It may have been available after 2002 as an "event item", with or without item number, but not according to my records.
  2. With the risk of highjacking the thread, this tempted me to have a look at the different hop-ups for the CC-01 and as far as I can see, this is it (not counting the optional chrome body parts): 53187 Cross Country 4WD Low-Ride Conversion Kit (1994) 53188 Cross Country 4WD Torque Splitter Unit (1994) 53310 TA03 Universal Drive Shaft (1 Pair) (1997) 53325 TA03 Aluminum Knuckle Arm (1 Pair) (1998) 54483 Rock Block Tires w/Tapered 6-Spoke Wheels (CC-01) (2013) 54484 Rock Block Tires w/2-Piece Mesh Wheels (CC-01) (2013) 54519 Stroke Extension Link (CC-01) (2013) 54541 CC-01 Aluminum Oil Damper Set (4 Pcs.) (2013) 54554 Rock Block Tires w/2-Piece 5-Spoke Wheels (CC-01) (2014) 54598 Rock Block Tires Soft 2 Pcs. (CC-01) (2014) 54608 CC-01 Universal Shaft Set (2014) 54616 CC-01 Metal Plated A-Parts (2015) 54625 CC-01 Chassis Lowering Kit (2015) 54665 CC-01 Aluminum Motor Mount (2015) 54666 CC-01 Barrel Spring Set (2015) 54679 CC-01 Metal Plated C-Parts (2016) 54735 CC-01 Mud Block Tires (2 Pcs.) (2017) 84429 CC-01 Clamp Type Aluminum Wheel Hub (2016) So, not considering the Low-Ride specific hop-ups and suitable hop-ups originally released for other chassis types, it took from 1993 to 2013 for the first hop-up to be released. I don't know anything about how Tamiya test their products except some old footage of factory track testing of the Mad Cap, but with the Juggernaut disaster in mind, it seems pretty clear that their testing isn't (or at least wasn't in the past) all that thorough. Still, no later than when running my first CC-01 on sand in 1993, it became obvious that the steering mechanism was anything but ideal. Tamiya can't possibly have avoided getting similar experience or feedback literally decades ago! And I'm not talking about the slop, too large turning radius or general "vagueness", which honestly never disturbed me too much. I mean steering getting heavy, locking up and getting poorer and premature wear when being exposed to dust, sand and any type of small debris and that for a model dubbed "Cross Country". As much as I love Tamiya, I think that's inadequate and really poor. Again, we're admittedly not talking about design flaws of Juggernaut proportions, but if nothing else, at least the promise of good sales should have motivated Tamiya to offer a hop-up for the steering? Thinking of all new chassis types released by Tamiya after the CC-01, I can't think of any chassis where Tamiya haven't offered an optional "aluminum"/improved steering (not counting chassis types with direct steering of course, like for instance F104). And many of the chassis types that got a Tamiya hop-up steering mechanism, really didn't need is as much as the CC-01 did.
  3. I agree. Even as a fanatic Tamiya enthusiast who's occasionally a bit blind, I realize that Tamiya now has a lot of serious competition in the CC-02's market niche. So I would prefer the CC-02 to be more like a downgraded version of the Hi-Lift and less of a CC-01. That said, it's either way about time the CC-01 is replaced. Not so much because of its age as such. After all, the TA02 and F103 are still decent chassises despite their age as long as their not used for serious racing. Likewise, the CC-01 is in my humble opinion still a pleasure to build, run and work on. What I don't understand at all though, is why Tamiya never improved the steering or at least offered an optional hop-up for it! Yes, their are OK aftermarket alternatives out there and I use them in my CC-01's, but Tamiya has released quite a lot of more or less useful and necessary hop-ups for the CC-01, but ignored the by far worst weakness of the CC-01 stock parts. How is that eve possible?!?!?
  4. After dreaming for decades of owning a sand blaster, I recently purchased a complete sand blaster with a small cabinet, rubber gloves, filters, light source and gun. It's decent quality, but hobby grade rather than for professional use, but I made sure to get a compressor with high enough airflow and pressure to avoid the typical failure done when buying a sand blaster for private use. So, I'd say the set-up is pretty adequate, but in terms of media blasting knowledge, I'm certainly not! I will use the sand blaster for minor automotive tasks, general purposes for "home and house" and of course for model building and restorations. The included gun comes with 4, 5, 6, and 7mm ceramic nozzles, so what kind of blasting media should I get? I don#t intend to stock up more than 3-5 types, but will go further if required. Any advice will be highly appreciated as I'm about to do something I virtually have no knowledge about.
  5. The Mercedes-bodied CC-01 kits are typically a bit more expensive (about 10-20%) than the average CC-01 kit, so I would guess that future CC-02 kits with "recycled" generic bodies (eg. Landfreeder) and Japanese bodies will retail for roughly EUR 200. The actual source quoting the EUR 219.99 price for the CC-02 is typically a bit cheaper than most sources in continental Europe, so a rough guess is that the CC-02 will mostly retail for a bit more than EUR 220. With an estimated suggested retail price between EUR 240 and 280, my guess is that it will retail from slightly below EUR 220 to 260, and close to EUR 280 in rare cases. I have a hard time believing that we'll see prices outside this 220 to 280 window. Not counting the future situations of surplus stock and later rarity of NIB kits once they are discontinued, of course. And considering that the prices for Tamiya products meanwhile vary quite a lot between countries, the scenario that slowly materializes for the CC-02 in Germany (and to some extent continental Europe), will surely look a bit different in other countries. Seeing that the prices for Tamiya kits in the UK are generally roughly the same in GBP (and slightly above) the same amount in EUR in Germany, i reckon the CC-02 will retail for approximately GBP 210 to GBP 300 in the UK. Except the announced EUR 220 for the CC-02 (# 58675) and actual prices for CC-01 kits, all above are just speculations of course, and I certainly don't pretend to know anything for sure. On the other hand, I have monitored prices for Tamiya items for quite a while now, so I would be surprised if the estimates should turn out to be very far off. With this in mind, I feel pretty confident that "advanced" features like portals and RC-operated diff-locks or gearshift are out of question as standard features in the kit. Likewise, I believe the CC-02 will be an "all plastic" chassis like the CC-01 and not "all metal" / "semi metal" kit like the 3-speeds, Hi-Lift or CR-01. I look very much forward to the CC-02 and reckon most flaws of the CC-01 will be gone. Steering mechanism in particular, but also the weaknesses of the integrated gearbox. Also, considering the age of the CC-01, I can't imagine the CC-01 and CC-02 will have many parts in common. Still, I believe the concept will be more of an evolution of the CC-01 than something brand new. So not an "SRB to ORV" revolution, but more like a "Hotshot to Thundershot" evolution. It will be funny to see how wrong or right our speculations will actually be!
  6. Now knowing that the "Full Ball Bearing Set" for the CC-02 (# 54910) will retail for about EUR 25.00, and that the kit itself ((# 58675) is announced with a street price of EUR 220.00, I feel the urge to speculate a little more about what to expect. And I think portals are very unlikely, at least as a standard feature. Why? Well, Tamiya's 630 ball bearing set for the G6-01TR and GF-01TR is priced at EUR 10,00. That's for 8 bearings, so the G6-01TR requires 3 sets and the GF-01TR requires 2 sets. So, portals for the CC-02 would most likely require 2 sets too (16 pcs. 630 bearings or similar). In other words, just the 630 bearings alone would be about EUR 20,00. As the CC-02 most likely will require roughly the similar quantity of bearings as the CC-01, it would leave only EUR 5.00 for all the other bearings plus additional bearings required for the portals in the EUR 25.00 "Full Ball Bearing Set". One may argue that the CC-02 kit may come with some ball bearings included, but as the CC-02 kit isn't significantly more expensive than the "average" (ball bearing-less) CC-01 kit (topic covered earlier in this thread), I consider it very unlikely that enough ball bearings are included in the CC-02 kit to leave only the EUR 5.00 cost for all missing ball bearings if the "Full Ball Bearing Set" would include ball bearings for portals too. And calling it "Full Ball Bearing Set" without including ball bearings for the hypothetical portals, would defy logic. Only time will tell, but all this considered, I can't possibly imagine that the CC-02 kit comes with portals as a standard feature. As an option maybe.....
  7. I fully agree, and as you mention the RC10 versus the (Turbo) Scorpion, I'd like to add that a Scorpion actually won the (rather inofficial) ROAR World Championship against RC10 prototypes/preproduction carss at the Anaheim Convention Center in 1984. The Scorpion was admittedly very heavily modified with aftermarket parts, if I remember correctly, with 1/8 scale Kyosho dampers, Holiday Buggy rear tires on CRP aluminum wheels and a lot of other CRP parts. The car was built, set up and supported by Swedish Kyosho distributor employee Jörgen Andersson, who was a brilliant RC-mechanic and -driver and who's now into real vintage formula 1 racing. The car was driven by the Norwegian Eivind Loyd Pettersen, at the time the owner of the Norwegian Serpent, Basilisk, Tomo, CRP, Thorpe, Mirage, JG and Associated distributor. Jay Halsey came in a very close second with his RC10. So though the Scorpion was outdated at the time the RC10 was released, it still had a chance in the hands of talented mechanics and drivers for some time. I never had the opportunity to run that Scorpion, but I borrowed an Optima that Jörgen Andersson had built and set up for Eivind Loyd Petterson a couple of years later and I ran it at a local race. It was by far the best Optima I've ever run.
  8. An easy way to distinguish between the Monster Beetle tires and QD/WR-02 monster spike tires when the size isn't easy to judge, is looking at the spikes. On the Monster Beetle tires, the spikes are on the chevrons, whereas they are between the chevrons on the QD/WR-02 tires.
  9. I agree with Juggular. MRC was the US distributor for Tamiya. MRC also had a range (flying) model rockets in their product range. However, though Tamiya have offered some ground vehicles models suitable for Jetex engines, they haven't had any (flying) rocket models. That is, unless you count their electric powered Apollo model, intended for flying in circles, hanging from a string in the ceiling. More about the Tamiya Apollo here: Tamiya Apollo Lunar Spacecraft and Apollo-1 vehicle
  10. I don't know if and certainly won't claim that no firm information has been available, and when new investors came in to make money, it was pretty logical that they would turn a lot of stones and carefully study the product line and possibly delete parts of it to reduce loss. Also, after the first Kyosho re-releases, it seemed pretty obvious that further re-releases would follow unless the existing ones were poor sellers. You all know this, so I'm stating the obvious. However, I suspect that TomEG (the article writer) is the originator of much of the "inside information" in this case too. Even though he practically always presents his "inside information" in such a way that he has an "escape route" every time it turns out to be wrong, he was caught lying so many times here in the forum and admitted it on several occasions before leaving in rage, and in my opinion he reveals himself this time too. As always, he claims having sooooo good contacts inside Kyosho and access to inside information, but now writes that when he confronted them with photos that without hardly any doubt proves that an Ultima re-re is in the pipeline, they wouldn't confirm it to him!!!!! Even I have better contacts and friends inside Kyosho than that, and I have absolutely NONE! As I have stated before, TomEG has pretty good knowledge about Kyosho products (credit where credit is due), but so have many others (I don't), but most of them aren't passionate liars. At Dirt-Burners TomEG has obviously found an audience that mostly don't think twice about the lack of logic and the all too recognizable "escape routes" TomEG constantly creates for himself to have an excuse every time his "inside information" is revealed as wrong. And when he turns out to be right, it's not rarely because it's based on no-brainers that even a person like me, with just minute knowledge about Kyosho, would be capable of. Just with the difference that I would never pretend it to be firm information from an insider. Also, isn't it "slightly" strange that a company that most likely even fights for survival and being Japanese, traditionally and generally isn't very open towards foreigners about topics that affect their business, would inform a foreign hobbyist who isn't even an employee or a distributor employee about future plans that have a big risk of a significant impact on their financial situation if the information reaches the market prematurely? And why on earth would they continue to share information TomEG claims them to be so coy about when they repeatedly experience that TomEG shares it with the entire internet? My conclusion is as numerous times before; a lot of people contribute with valuable information and put their pride in being honest and credible. TomEG is certainly not one of them.
  11. 2019: 56361 Mercedes-Benz Arocs 3348 6x4 Tipper Truck Red/Silver Edition 58675 Mercedes-Benz G500 (CC-02)
  12. It's difficult to estimate, but I've given it a try. This is of course no scientific analysis, but hopefully at least it gives us a rough estimate. I've checked all the suggested retail prices for CC-01 kits new enough to be generally available, which quite well ensures that market prices haven't increased due to "rarity". What I call "typical sales prices" below are exactly that. Not necessarily the cheapest source, but about an average of what to expect to pay if not deliberately searching for the cheapest source. All prices listed below actually were xx9,99 or xx4,99, so for clarity, I rounded up and removed the decimals. When I estimated the suggested retail price for the CC-02 to 240-260 Euro, it was based on the general experience that Tamiya kits sell for about 15% below suggested retail price in Germany. I case of the selection below, it's actually 21%, but the statistical population is too small to be fully representative and also, some of the lowest prices might be the result of the kits not being particularly good sellers and having been on the market for quite a long time, thus have been reduced more than the average Tamiya RC kit. Also, the suggested retail prices are influenced by the the JPY/EUR rate at the time of importing. Furthermore, licensing cost surely plays a role, kits with license free bodies and bodies of Japanese vehicles generally allowing for lower prices than kits with "foreign" bodies. So, with this taken into consideration, which suggested retail price can we expect the (58675) CC-02 to have? (in Germany. Sorry, converting to your country's suggested retail price is left to you.) Well, with an announced actual sales price of 219.99, the suggested retail price will be about EUR277 when taking the average discounted price of CC-01 kits into consideration. Considering that the first CC-02 comes with a (licensed) Mercedes body, the prices of the Mercedes-bodied CC-01 kits might be more relevant. If so, about EUR242 can be expected. I reckon reality will be anywhere between 240 and 280. Furthermore, when considering that the average suggested retail price of available CC-01 kits is EUR219, the CC-02 is calculated to be about 26% more expensive, and in case of Mercedes-bodied kits, the (58675) CC-02 would actually be 9% below the CC-01 kits. In other words, there's a lot of uncertainty involved. Either way, I think it's safe to say that the CC-02 won't be significantly more expensive than the CC-01. In my humble opinion, this pretty much excludes the possibility of a metal frame, portal axles, included RC-operated diff-locks and other high cost features. (Portal axles made the G6-01TR and GF-01TR about 40% more expensive than the G6-01 and GF-01).
  13. Confirmed actual sales price in Germany (58675 MB G500, CC-02); EUR220.00 (Based on experience, suggested retail price will probably be EUR 240-260.)
  14. It must be a little newer than 1980. The real Porsche 956 didn't appear before 1982. And as I'm currently restoring a Kyosho ATC 250R, I've looked a little into the history of the real thing and if I recall correctly, the first 250R was released in 1982 or possibly as modelyear 1982 (release in autumn 1981). I have an older version of the Kyosho mini-catalog, but it still covers the Scorpion and Scorpion Beetle, so even my catalog is as "new" as 1982 or newer, but the Super Laser series hadn't been released yet. So my estimation is that the catalog with the Super Laser is from roughly 1984-1985, dating the release of the kit to about the same time.
  15. Yes, TA02 front dogbones are longer and actually same length as FF01 and TA03 (front and rear) dogbones. In the rear, TA01 and TA02 have the same short dogbones, ie. same length as TA01 front. (Also, the Dirt 4WD chassis ("Hummer") has TA01 wheelaxles and TA02 dogbones on all four, which again means that TA02W universals can be used.)
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