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The castings for the Frog uprights are a different alloy and shape from the originals. I have no doubt in my mind that this was because the originals from the SRBs were brittle and insubstantial to the task (Tamiya knew and know this). There are other flaws with the castings which wouldn't make the grade nowadays. Besides, when you really look at it, how many people (even at 200, which I think is very unlikely) would actually buy the thing worldwide? Even if every member of Tamiyaclub bought one it probably wouldn't be worth tooling up!
Paul.
So there is no real reason why they dont do a similar job on the SRB castings and mould them to a 21st century spec whilst keeping roughly the same form as that of the 1979 original.
We've had the discussion on these forums over and over again (which is fun
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Cost price of an anniversary Rough Rider, I am assuming you mean blister packs and all, would be well over 500 in my opinion, if they were to do small quantities. Larger quantities still expensive, but kind of spoils the whole point.
Never say never, but I say neeeever going to happen.
Paul.
No, I wasn't really thinking of going as far as blister packs, rather just the exact same kit but packed in a similar manner to the existing re-releases.
Where do your figures come from to get a 500 price tag!?
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Yes, this is all quite true - It comes down to this: They either:
* Bite the bullet and release the original kit with minimal tweaks and diminish some of the prestige of the older kits, or
* Make an updated version, and then end up...
1. Annoying a few people because it's not exactly the same, or
2. Make some people glad that they can get a body shell, tires and bumper bar for their old car, or
3. Making the owners of original examples glad that the new car doesn't diminish the value of the originals, who then promptly ignore the kit, or
4. Some recognise the new model as appealing in its own right, despite it being different, and it attracts its own fans (like the Hi-Lift has done)
* Or they let the memory of the original cars lie.
There's a fine line between an homage, and a dog's breakfast...
- James
I dont know why they dont just bring out a 30th anniversary limited edition re-release of the exact same Rough Rider of 1979, aiming it squarely at collectors with a hefty price - say 200. They would still sell boat loads of them without damaging the brand in any shape or form.
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A nice little bonus of this re-re will be the availability of nice shiny new yellow CVA shocks to help Hotshot owners in their bid to convert to a Supershot.

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I cant help wondering if it will be an actual re-release or will they just slap the body on the re-re Hotshot chassis?
No chance of that, it will be identical to the original minus a few decal changes and the dogbone propshaft. Besides, the Boomerang bodyshell would never fit over the Hotshot roll cage.
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Buggy Champ TTG

I still think they may release a 1/10th version of it the Rough Rider but it will be seriously modified from the original design.
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The large side stripe decal that goes along each side of the car is in three parts which line up to create the effect of one long decal. Only thing is the second part of the decal, which lines up around the rear part of the side window, simply does not fit properly for me. If I line the decal up alongside the window the yellow curved part of the stripe is miles away from the adjacent stripe of the first decal part. Trying to line this curved part up leaves a large part of the decal "floating" as it has no where to go. Now I have managed to get it to look reasonably joined but only by having to get the second decal to overlap the first one, but it looks unprofessional in my opinion.
Has anyone else had this problem?
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I guess in Tamiya's eyes they did, with the bodyshell on a DF03 trick. Obviously not a re-re, but probably as close as we'll get!
You beat me to it Rich.

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You forgot about the Avante...

Now wouldn't that be a crazy re-re!

Well the Avante has had it's re-re...in the form of the Avante MkII. Old Avante body on modern DF-03 chassis. That's as close as we'll get to an Avante re-re unfortunately.

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It's fun to be right.

http://www.tamiyaclub.com/forum/index.php?...st&p=279603
http://www.tamiyaclub.com/forum/index.php?...st&p=225187
http://www.tamiyaclub.com/forum/index.php?...st&p=225101
http://www.tamiyaclub.com/forum/index.php?...st&p=218307
This is yet one more release from that coffee pot promotion....it really was a big hint to what would come wasn't it? Only the Astute and Rough Rider to go now then.

As it happens I still predict that, the coffee pot re-re's aside, the Fast Attack Vehicle will be the next re-release with the possible later addition of the Wild One. I think you can forget about the Monster Beetle folks...if it was gonna happen it would have by now.
The FAV is a blatantly obvious choice for a re-release. It's all plastic, a military vehicle and no licensing issues. Watch this space folks.
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Yeah I forgot to figure in the value of the pound. For the record though I wasn't 'moaning' about Jason's or anyone elses prices, merely making an observation that the cost of buying from Japan, for UK buyers anyway, has now become prohibitive and it's a bit of a sickener because buying from Jason and Stella has always proved very fruitfull for me. Now though I figure it's no cheaper to buy from them than here in the UK so Mr Shopkeeper must be rubbing his hands with glee as I and others will now buy from him, unless the pound regains it's strength against the dollar.
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Ive notoiced the amount of srb's appearing on ebay lately and the prices seem to dropping faster day by day or they dont sell, if youve got the money its going to be a buyers market real soon
That's my feeling too. Infact I'm already watching a few things that are currently low on price that would ordinarily fetch a lot more than the current price. Of course they may jump at the last minute but hopefully not!
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Just browsing Jason's store as I do frequently to see the latest vintage Tamiya treasure he has somehow managed to unearth and I noticed that his prices seem even more lofty than normal!!
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Jasons-Store
Now I know this beacuse the full option Knight Hauler that I bought from him last year had stayed at a price that worked out at 320 delivered to my door. That same kit would now cost me 412.. a rise in price of approximately 28%.

I noticed that the likes of NIB FAVs and Wild Ones used to sell for 275, but the price of them recently has been more than 310. They still sold to someone though!
How can he justify the price rises? The price of oil maybe? And as the oil prices are now dropping again will he revert to the old price tags?
P.S. 800 for a NIB 959 delivered to my door. Tempting?....not in this economic climate.
It has been said that the credit crunch will bring a dose of reality to the markets where the cost of goods/services/property/entertainment will be much more realistic....so when will it affect the vintage Tamiya market? Or will it at all?
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Has this been confirmed by anyone such as J Anderson or is it just a rumour?
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If you look in the sticker bag there is a sheet of masking with the window shapes printed on it.
So there is. How dare they put it on the back of the decal sheet, far too much effort for me to go looking there. 
Do we recommend applying the silver post decals or actually painting them (as was required on the original Hornet)?
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Finally got round to building my re-re Hornet and am now attending to the body. Step 28 in the manual tells me to "mask off the window areas from inside using masking seals included in the kit".
I cant find anything that remotely looks like a masking seal. What have I missed? Are there such seals included? Or have I just been unlucky and got a kit without them supplied?
P.S. How basic is this car!? I still love the look of it though. Now, having watched the old promo video, I just need to buy a runner for the beach
...where this buggy belongs. 
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The decision has nothing to do with 'preserving the value', Tamiya couldn't care less about a very small minority of collectors. Tamiya are a business and like any other business decisions are based entirely on whether they will make any money from them. There are many reasons they haven't re-released them, and they have been discussed endlessly here, but the simple reason is they won't sell enough to justify the cost of production. As has been seen in the choice of re-releases Tamiyas biggest market is still Japan and as long as Japan prefers Fire Dragons that's what we'll get.
I wonder if Tamiya have ever done customer research as to a re-re SRB in Japan? I would think even over there would be a clamour for a Sand Scorcher?
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Re-releases. Everyday I come on here hoping to see a thread in caps screaming that the FAV/Wild One/Boomerang/Avante/Sand Scorcher has been re-re'd.
That Scorcher re-re wind up thread by Netsmith still lives long in the memory!
A good thing about this club is that it got me interested in a lot of the modern Tamiyas, some of which are on my wish list...but mainly it's the 1980s stuff that I'm really passionate about.
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They wont re-release it.
It came with Technipower motor & fragile gold wheels. Neither of which Tamiya will make again.
It wasn't even an improvement on the Hotshot. Yeah it had independent suspension but in reality it made little difference on the track.
It was basically a Hotshot with all of the hop-ups of the time fitted to it. Which made it expensive. The whole point of the re-releases is the cheapness of them. Issuing a watered-down Supershot just to satisfy the re-re market would be missing the point.
The only other car from the Hotshot chassis family that you might see re-released will be the Boomerang.
Infact apart from the Boomerang I can only see 3 other possible re-releases from the vintage era coming along. Fast Attack Vehicle, Wild One and Astute.
Maybe the Monster Beetle. However I think if it was going to happen it would have done by now.
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You could make your own with a Kamtec shell....
Nah, no disrespect to Kamtec but that looks more like a Vauxhall Chevette than a Corrado! It would have to be Tamiya quality for me to consider it.
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I have always loved the corrados and golf gtis(i want to see it
) they look awesome.Shame i cannot drive i would have one lolHere is a video of it being driven by the guy I bought it off....quite a nice sound but pretty impractical for everyday driving which is why I am gonna change the exhaust very soon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLoICGOc2tw
I would love tamiya to do a Mk2 Golf or Corrado.
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Here's one of mine...had it for a year now. VW Corrado VR6. It's rather fast.........and thirsty. Not good when it's 1.40 a litre.

I collect Old Skool VWs in the same way I collect Tamiyas! Got a Jetta GTi and a Golf GTi which I will post piccies of soon.
Please excuse the space shuttle solid rocket booster at the back. It's coming off and being replaced by something more subtle when I get round to it. My excuse is that it was on the car when I bought it last year. Sounds nice mind!

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Hotshot Mk 1 bumper and skid plate, ie 'C' parts. Waited for 4 years to see them come up on ebay but it will never happen. That's because Tamiya simply never issued them as spares since they quickly redesigned them shortly after the car was released.

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The Credit Crunch - Not Affecting Some Sellers It Seems
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Actually I just looked at my old PayPal records and notice that I paid $635 18 months ago for my Knight Hauler from Jason. The price is now $725 so the price has definitely gone up in that time, regardless of currency values.