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Some pics taken from an old RC-book to show you, how the tracks were in those days.
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Thanks for the correction of the Serpent cars.
Did not know they made a second one.
But on the other hand this must be after 1986, or even later.
I lost interest after my graduate in 1986 and began to drive a 1/8 buggy again as late as 1995.
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It is a 934,935 chassis with all Tamiya hop-up parts available for it at this time.
The bumper, speedo, motorholder and tires.
But the Diplos wont do any good on a car with zero caster.
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HI,
should be the same wing and the same wing mount (the metall plates even the radiator).
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Yeah,
Burns, Turbo Burns, Mp4, MP5, Mp6, Mp7, MP 777
Mugen Athlete, MBX4, MBX 5
and all others!!!
The question was how they were to drive.
I can speak for the early 2WD cars with the engine in the back behinf the transmission.
Extremly fast, 8:1, or even 7:1 geared, compared to 11:1 to todays buggies. But with almost no on power steering, more hopping over the obstacles and with more fun in the dirt as todays cars due to the radio box, which were almost watertight in the TT Challenger.
The Yankee was almost like todays cars, especially if driving only around, which we did in those days.
The chain driven lookalike from TT Silver Fox was not as good, due to only 2 diffs.
But you had to be a real good mechanic.
Till 1995 or so, no 1/8 buggy could be driven without much improvement from out of the box.
E.g. you wont imagine how people had altered their cars, often beyond a point, where you could tell which brand it was.
I myself had made a buggy with front end from a Serpent Cobra, a front end from a Garbo Gepard and the drivetrain from the TT Silver Fox.
And that was not the extrem car!!!
Today this would be impossible. And the aftermarket for hop up parts is so gigantic, you only need a lot of money. SAD!!!!!!! And if something does not work properly out of the box, the company will be aimed with complaints.
25 years ago you sat in front of your car and thought and thought and.... This with the age of 15. Thats why I now know everything about everything working about RC cars. This helped me alot for my big cars.
Today a dad buys his son a RTR and if something breaks or is not working, he brings it back to the hobby store for repair or exchange.
So many childs will loose their interest very fast, because of this fact. You should repair your car with cheap homemade parts, before going to daddy and ask for the money for the alloy parts, or to learn driving better only making the car tougher. WRONG WAY!!!
My 2cents
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Thank you for the information.
I did not know if these were European or World Championships.
You will soon be able to see a Serpent Cobra in my showroom.
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I want to share some knowlegde of the early 4WD buggies with you. Maybe someone can help me to even make further statements or to correct my thoughts.
I began to drive with these cars 1983, but the first 4WD car, the world had seen, was the Kyosho Land Jump 4D around
1979 1980
For almost 1 year this car was the only 4WD car in the world. Thats the reason why there are so much cars around. In the States it was even longer.
The first rival of the car was made by a small Italian manufacturer SG. They made a 4WD kit for their Romax Expert. Not really a contender with the 3 chains in their drivetrains.
1981
the race begun. A second Italian manufacturer Garbo hit the shelfes. The Presto!! A copy of the drivetrain layout from SG but with a chassis plate and not 2 railings as used in the Land Jump and Romax. Very light and with extremly durable plastics, called Zytel.
All these first 4WD cars had chain drivetrains and trailing arms. The Land Jump was more a rear whell drive car with a little help from the front tires. No diff in the rear and a slipper clutch with one ways in the wheels up front. The Presto had no diffs and no oneways out of the box and the Romax only a diff up front.
1982
was the beginnig of a new aera. A small French manufacturer Yankee designed their Yankee Enduro. The first!!!!! 4WD car featuring the 3 diff layout, A-arms around, engine left facing the front and the tank in front of the engine. Even 17mm wheel adapters were on the car, all the same on todays buggies!!! I might even say that Audi Quattro was based on this layout or vice-versa.
This car was lightyears ahead of all other ones, it won the European or World Championships 3 years in a row with Pedro Martinez de la Rosa behind the wheel at the age of 14.
Kyosho only managed to make their Land Jump better in the new Land Jump Integra. Full 4WD chain drive with lighter wheels and better coil over shocks instead of the ball pen springs of the Land Jump.
1983
Yankee changed their filmsy greyish plastic into better black one and Serpent, one of the best On-road car manufacturer in the world, tried to make an Off-road one. The Serpent Cobra, an extremly unique car. The layout was a copy of the Yankee, but with only 2 diffs, which were ball diffs!!! The one and only 1/8 car with ball diffs. The car was so extremly lightweight, due to a double deck chassis, which made it uncontrollable at any terrain.
A real flop. Serpent I think never tried a Off-road car again.
1984
the victories of the Yankee made some manufactures very jealous, so SG brought their Leopard 4WD. A 3 diff A-arms layout, with 2 steering servos, eninge left side facing foward. The first contender of the Yankee.
Kyosho only changed the old alloy trailing arms of the Integra to plastic A-arms. Still a chain drive layout, the Vanning.
1985
Garbo the second Italian company showed up with one of the best buggies at this time. The Gepard 3, which had some astonishing features. A-arms with ball connections, big 8mm dog bones like the Savage today, but with a stupid engine layout facing the rear and small shocks. Which was very hampering the exhaust.
Also a second french company Siccom showed their car the Siccom Magnum Force. Huge rear dampers and a mid engine layout was the innovation of this car. But the mid engine was only accomplished by two open gearings in front of the diff housing, which caused enormous troubles.
And than Kyosho showed up with the Burns, which was so dominant with the Mugen Athlete, to end some manufactures lives. Yankee made some Europas till 1989 but ended up making 1/5 and 1/6 cars.
SG or Garbo became Crono, the other company died, same with Siccom.
I did not mention some other cars, eg. Thunder Tiger Varicom Silver Fox, Blue Bird 4WD, aso, because these companies only copied the cars and not really inveted some new things.
I hope this interests somebody and will not waste time.
Some of these cars mentioned above can be seen in my showroom.
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I think, all the RC-bodies green and white had green tinted glass all around.
I had never seen brown or red bodies.
Thats a novum for me.
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I use oven cleaner.
First let it work an hour and then I take steel wool for polishing. Look at my 1/8 buggies.
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Thats very easy!!!
It is a SG Coyote.
Distributed in Germany and Austria by Robbe.
You will find them very often at Ebay or I think some of our members do have them too.
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Hi,
not everything is always a Koysho fairlady!!!
this is totally different to the Koysho cars, and the Simprop ones.
also no thunder tiger.
this must be a Blue Bird 2wd buggy.
A similar car was in the USAbay days ago.
Bye
Martin
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I am looking for a Graupner Gepard 3 4x4, or a Yankee 4x4.
Both cars should be complete, I do not have any spares.
Gepard would be preferred the one with the cage and Yankee, the oldest one.
I drove both cars 20 years or more ago. I had watched Ebay, but no Yankee to get.
Maybe some of you can help me to find the last missing cars out of my collection.
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That could be a winner for some other guys, who have the Graupner RX540VZ, which is also the socalled Technigold but sold under an other label.
Tamyia is not the only company who has sold Mabuchi motors!!!!!!
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This was the biggest problem of all SRB. The older ones crack the receiver case and the Super Champ sometimes the steering servo case. The second issue was destroying the bodies at the front mounting hole. Often the Scorcher or Ranger body broke completly at this place.
I solved almost 30 years ago this problem with a second chassis plate. The reinforcement plate only helped the radio box.
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I had a 14x2 motor in my porsche.
was much faster than the Technigold.
It is very easy to fit any motor in the car.
you only have to make a tight fit at the endbell to the white ring.
If you drill a hole exactly on the opposite side at the front and take 2 screws instead of one, there is enough hold in the front.
So you can take any new engine except the V2 ones.
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Sorry Michael, but I am not with your opinion.
I have a Savage, almost stock, except the 3-speed, metall diffs and other springs and the Dirt Bonze tires.
I must say, the Savage need first better diffs and soft springs.
With soft springs and the 3 speed the car is very driveable through a tight course. An open high speed course will suit the Losi or Hot Bodies much more.
I had never troubles with the one way and the 25 Motor is a very good one, when it comes to power and reliability. It does not rev as high as the engines of the newer trucks.
If you really want to fly, take a 1/8 buggy and put Dirt Bonze tires on with the adapters. with this combination, nothing will beat you.
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The Willy and Opel chassis are completely different!!!!
You see the difference very easy on the underside.
the Willy chassis is ripped and the opel is smooth.
The space for the servos is bigger, thats why the chassis is longer.
The gear case in the rear is also different. One plate speels Wild Willy the other quattro. The gearing is different to compensate for the different tire size.
So you can not take a Willy chassis and put an opel or Audi on it!!!
to get a new or almost new body for the Audi, Opel is the far more easier step, instead of finding a complete new chassis.
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I agree with DJTheo.
If you have bad luck, the O-rings or other parts react with the oil, silicon or other stuff.
No oil, no silicon, NO CA!!!! (never glue the tires), no sealant, no switch lube, no tread lock!!!!
The brass soacks up the oil and become darker. Thats why old SRB shocks do have dark eyelets.
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I agree with DJTheo
Willies Wheeler tires
934 speedo
a used Brabham
NIB Blazer Willy tires
NIB Ayk spare parts
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I do not have bought any rerelease car either. But the big advantage is, to take some parts frome these kits to make the original ones nicier.
Look at the big cars. There are so many Cobras or Lotus Super Seven around which are "rereleases" by their way.
But nothing will ever happen the guys which have the originals.
The new ones drive, brake better, are cheaper aso.
But for the real collector only the original counts.
The major second advantage is that some collector become drivers with these rereleases. Now they can drive their beloved cars, without destroying the original one.
For collecting cars, the only disadvantage is a little price drop on your shelfqueen. If someone bought the original tires for 150,- uSd or so, now he knows it better.
And the real searched and rare cars wont be rereleased.
RR, SS, SC, Hilux, Bruiser, Mounty, metall chassis early cars, Avante, Porsche 959, Celica Gr.B, aso.
Tamiya would be silly to rerelease these cars, because they will never get any profit. Maybe the complete rerelease thing will end in the near future, because someone in the leadership says to less profit.
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Thats a perfect CS Countach.
There are only the steering rod missing on the Chassis, besides of that it is in perfect shape. The front bumper will be the worst part to get!!!
The tires are original and perfect. The diplos are very nice!!!
If you want to restore the car, remove the red rear lights from the body, then throw it away. When you buy the rerelease body (Ebay) put the red rear lights on it and you have a perfect CS Countach.
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Do not get me wrong, I like Tamiya cars, but I think, the company was more into good looks and some new developments (although Hirobo made the first 4WD cars or Yokomo, Asso made dampers which really worked, Kyosho race improvements, Ayk really astonishing chassis designs), they should kept and keep the eye more on driveability and durability.
And of course plastics will age and loose their softeners, which evapourate, and become brittle.
But in comparsion with other manufactores it is behind in quality.
And let us be honest, Tamiya cars (except the new touring car ones) were the beginners cars, so these should really be durable.
Did you obsess over the Tamiya catalogues as a kid?
in Vintage Tamiya Discussion
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For me it was not only the Tamiya catalogues.
I had a Kyosho one, here in Austria you normally had a Graupner to have a look at the cars, but I could managed to get a original Kyosho one, with the Land Jump and Scorpion !!!! in it with wonderfull pics.
I dreamed to have a Scorpion and to demoralize my friends with their SRBs and Ayks.
I had a Scorcher at that time.
But in the Tamiya catalogues you had much more pics of cars running with different paintshemes aso.
Most other ones had only static pics.
It was almost impossible to find nice color pics of other cars, so we always headed to the annual Hobby convention here in Vienna, where private people showed their stuff.
Nowadays it is only for sale, only shops show up. Boring!!!!
But in 1984 or 85 you could see so much different homemade cars or altered ones. Was really impressive and to bring up new ideas.