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Sorry if there is already a thread on the TD4 chassis. But thought it might be good to have a "Super Avante" thread now that it's officially out. Would be cool to consolidate pertinent information. Added some screenshots below and lightened the main pic to see the suspension arms better. So are you planning on getting one? And what are you most excited about? Seems like there are some people torn about the new SA. I'll hold off on any negative criticism I may have as I'm curious to see it in person—and once I can get my hands on it. This release reminds me of the feeling when the original Avante came out. It was quite different, unique, and probably shocked some people. Some folks I knew didn't like the original at all, but decades later, it ended up an icon regardless of what it is/was. And those friends of mind ended up having a kit or two. So I think the new SA will have its own sort of history or place. In terms of dimensions, looks like the SA is wider, lower, longer wheelbase, but shorter overall. Tamiya Super Avante #58696 Length: 338mm Height: 124mm Width: 246mm Wheelbase: 283mm 1st Gen Tamiya Avante Length: 420mm Height: 140mm Width: 240mm Wheelbase: 260mm ++++++ Specs: Newly designed shaft-driven 4WD chassis based on the one-piece monocoque frame features the same ball differentials for front and rear, and features a longitudinal battery pack position in the center and a midship transverse motor for optimum balance and improved performance. The TD4 chassis also employs a front inboard suspension layout which eliminates the need for a front damper stay and offers slim, low-profile form. The four wheel double wishbone suspension system uses CVA oil dampers for superlative performance. Features full ball bearings. Steering is a three-piece steering arm in which two link rods and a crank arm transmit the movement of the servo. Turnbuckle shafts for use with upper arms facilitate camber angle adjustment. Star dish wheels are paired with square spike tires which offer grip off-superlative road. Choose between high and low type wing stays to adjust the downforce depending on the road surface. Comes with a driver figure for extra realism, and high-torque servo saver. The camber angle can be easily adjusted by the upper arm that uses a turnbuckle shaft. Body is clear and not painted Motor not included ESC not included ++++++ Hop-up Parts List (will keep updating): 22028 TD4 Assembly Universal Shafts ( 2) 22029 TD4 Differential Nut and Screw Set 22030 TD4 Aluminum Servo Stays 22031 TD4 Slipper Clutch Set 47464 TD4 Titanium Screw Set 51674 TD4 C-Parts (Uprights) (2) 51675 TD4 D-Parts (Suspension Arms) (2) ++++++ Release Date (Tentative): TBD but maybe 4th quarter/late 2021 ++++++ Price: MSRP (Tamiya USA): $449.00 Selling price: TBD MSRP Price Comparison (on Tamiya USA): Egress (2013): $822 Avante (2011): $692 Top Force Evo: $570 Sand Scorcher: $534 Super Shot: $482 VQS (Vanquish Re-re): $482 Fighting Buggy 2014: $462 Landfreeder Quadtrack: $457 TD4 Super Avante: $449 TA08 Pro Chassis: $445 Super Astute 2018: $389 The Landfreeder selling price at Amain USA is $319 US. So I think the TD4 SA will be low $300 US. ++++++ I'm curious about the design concept. Hopefully, we'll hear more about it. The lead designer is Kota Nezu. I believe his recent work was on the JR Eleglitter. He also designed the Raikiri bodies and Mini 4WD Astralster, to name a few. Here is his website with older work, I would assume. From what I've gathered, some don't like the SA look or even hate it. I don't mind it at all. I do like that it has character and that bit of Japanese peculiarity. I would be more worried if it looked like the typical race spec buggies from TLR, TA, Yokomo, Kyosho, Schumacher, etc. with forward cabins. I would assume the SA speaks more to the Japanese mainstream. I'm very excited about this chassis and hope it won't be difficult to procure one, especially parts, as I would rather make this a runner. As for parts, it makes me wonder if this new version of Avante is meant to be more accessible, hence the plastic dampers, reinforced plastics for durability (especially those thick arms), and shared components--I think such as the front inboard suspension à la TC-01 and monocoque frame. I also wonder if the price will be reasonable. Any other official info and constructive thoughts from others would be great. Thanks.
It’s never too early to start a build thread right? Since the first pics were released it’s been obvious that the TD4 was going to be typically over engineered but also is gonna provide a lot of room for modifying and tweaking, we’re gonna see a lot of different takes on this buggy over the next few months. The recent blitz of videos from the production samples have answered a lot of the questions we had regards battery placement, shocks, motor cooling etc…..so now seems like a good time to start planning the build and making a few basic decisions.