What's going on with people on Ebay????

[moffman]

Sorry for the rant but I'm wondering if it's me or the calibre of some people buying on Ebay? I decided to sell a few of my rc related items including a few fully built kits which have been sitting in their boxes and haven't seen the light of day for a while and they will also raise money for some impending new kits!, the first item I put on was a sand scorcher body (painted) someone won the bid then decided he/she didn't want to pay for it! quote from this nutter "can you send me it then when I get paid I will follow with the money".......really?

Second item I sold was a monster beetle to another not so bright time waster I quote again "do you mind if I pay at the end of the week when I get paid" I said ok that's fine! Then I got "can I pay next year" I said no then i got "can I pay in monthly instalments" by this time I was a bit annoyed to say the least because my whole morning was taken up by this numb head I did send him a email explaining that he's wasting my time and when he bids for something he's contractually obliged to buy it in full he started to get a bit aggy so I reported him to Ebay!. I've now taken the decision not to bother putting the rest of my rc stuff on Ebay.

Is this the norm on Ebay these days or I'm I just attracting the losers in life and if I am what can I do to stop attracting them?

[DaveBuildsRC]

that sucks.

[Zealot]

I've had a couple of people request to pay in unusual ways but only prior to purchasing and those were buy it now listings. I don't mind if they ask up front and explain their situation but if they wait until after they've won an auction or committed to buy, that would annoy me.

[JeffSpicoli]

eBay has turned into a real $hit$how since its inception.   They've made it so pro buyer and anti seller I can't take it anymore.   I only buy really.  They took 12% final value fees on a $50 brand new hoodie I sold.   Then you almost always get screwed on shipping too.

It doesn't shock me that you're dealing with deadbeats.  They took an auction of mine down because I put "No deadbeat bidders" in the description.   They did the same when I put "No Lowballers".   LOL

I feel sorry for anyone making a living from selling on eBay.  They're a tech monopoly in my opinion.

Where you gonna go if you can't put it on eBay?  Craigstlist?

 

I feel your pains.

[tamiya3speed]

What drives me crazy is that eBay always seems to under estimate shipping cost AND tacks on final value fees on the total cost (including shipping).  Probably why I ended up with so many cars as I got sick of losing so much money on everything I sold.  

One time somebody asked me if i could meet them locally on an item.  I said yes, but you will have to do buy it now and pay shipping calculated.  Then I would just refund them the shipping cost charged.  They got mad and declined.  I am 99.9% sure I would have either been robbed or they  would have shown up with like $50 bucks and tried to get me to let it go for way under what it was worth.

[GeeWings]

It's just a waste of time nowadays. I list some stuff but only with buy-it-now. I also lis on Facebook and Gumtree. I had avoided both of those in the past but I've actually found them far less hassle than eBay and of course they don't charge seller fees.

[JeffSpicoli]

52 minutes ago, tamiya3speed said:

What drives me crazy is that eBay always seems to under estimate shipping cost AND tacks on final value fees on the total cost (including shipping).  Probably why I ended up with so many cars as I got sick of losing so much money on everything I sold.  

One time somebody asked me if i could meet them locally on an item.  I said yes, but you will have to do buy it now and pay shipping calculated.  Then I would just refund them the shipping cost charged.  They got mad and declined.  I am 99.9% sure I would have either been robbed or they  would have shown up with like $50 bucks and tried to get me to let it go for way under what it was worth.

Yup!   And then you're a bagholder!   Ebay charged my buyer $15 to ship and I went to ship it and it was $62.    eBay is a waste of time! 

[InsaneJim69]

21 minutes ago, GeeWings said:

It's just a waste of time nowadays. I list some stuff but only with buy-it-now. I also lis on Facebook and Gumtree. I had avoided both of those in the past but I've actually found them far less hassle than eBay and of course they don't charge seller fees.

I find both FB and Gumtree to be excellent for selling and buying in my experience. Some cracking bargains on FB especially. 

James

[alvinlwh]

The time wasters you described exists since the beginning of ebay (at least as far back as I can remember first using it in 2003).

However, one thing that ticks me off is, they charge sellers a tidy sum of money and yet they still clutter up their site with ads??? 

[GeeWings]

@alvinlwh I came for a car but left with a duvet

[Juggular]

You can't clue in the clueless people, buyers or sellers.  I only buy from sellers with a good rating and I don't mind waiting for like 2 months. That reduces the chance of any trouble. (Years ago, I waited for 2 months, I got a refund. Then it arrived a week later, so I had to ask the seller to bill me again. A bit of a hassle, but no trouble.)  

Recently, though, it's gotten weird. I paid for a little trinket. The seller simply did not send it for 3 weeks. That's long for domestic post.  In the end, ebay refunded. The seller refused to respond. Not a peep. Some people are just lazy, I guess.  If the buyer doesn't get it and doesn't complain, they keep the money for free!  If ebay refunds, they didn't lose anything because they never sent anything. If they get banned, I suppose they can start again with a new ID and a new bank account. Bad apples exist. Compare that to the good people of Tamiya Club, who'd give away stuff at postage. I think we are lucky that TC is a gentleman's club (er...I don't mean a club where women un-clothe, I mean a club of decent and responsible human beings).  

 

[Grumpy pants]

I sell a lot on eBay and I rarely get messed about and it has always achieved the highest sale prices.

GT is great for buying cheaply, but too vague and too localised imo.

And honestly TC is great for selling and usually my 1st choice, but I’ve been messed about royally by 4 members, 2 very recently and my god it was painful, however I listed the items on eBay sold them very quickly, with no pain and at better prices too.

I think my point is that no matter what you sell or where you sell it, the law of averages dictates that  you will come across people with champagne taste and beer money 😉

 

 

[MadInventor]

I'm done with selling on EBay. The nail in the coffin was when they cut out paypal and take payments themselves and demand your bank account details if you want to sell. It was the same reason I wiped my youtube account clean and then deleted it when Youtube emailled me to say they were going to put adverts on videos even if you're not part of their monetisation program. In my view both are fantastic example of excessive corporate greed and I don't want to finance them just for a hobby.

I only sell my RC stuff through the TamiyaClub forum now.  I've never been messed about by buyers on here fortunately. It's my hobby at the end of the day and if stuff doesn't sell it can sit in the loft going up in value until a seller comes along. Either that or I chuck low value bits in as freebees to pass them on when I sell other things.

 

 

[moffman]

1 hour ago, Grumpy pants said:

I sell a lot on eBay and I rarely get messed about and it has always achieved the highest sale prices.

GT is great for buying cheaply, but too vague and too localised imo.

And honestly TC is great for selling and usually my 1st choice, but I’ve been messed about royally by 4 members, 2 very recently and my god it was painful, however I listed the items on eBay sold them very quickly, with no pain and at better prices too.

I think my point is that no matter what you sell or where you sell it, the law of averages dictates that  you will come across people with champagne taste and beer money 😉

 

 

Yeah overall the items I've sold so far some have sold well some haven't (rc 10 re-release sold for absolute peanuts always springs to mind!) But lately I've just had people asking the most random questions eg: in my listing for the MB I obviously had pictures of said truck built looking good and also in the listing I said this is a fully built monster truck which has never been used the question I got was "is it built and has it been used" 🙄!!! Sometimes I'm thinking is it me as I'm getting older I'm getting more intolerant with this sort of stupidity?

[vanpeebles]

ebay and tamiya have been a bad mix for me. I never sell well on it, yet other stuff is a fortune. Can't work it out.

[alvinlwh]

6 hours ago, GeeWings said:

@alvinlwh I came for a car but left with a duvet

Don't laugh, happened before, and will again. The joys of online shopping.

[junkmunki]

I use ebay fairly regularly, so i have come across this quite a lot.

I was on the other end of the situation two weeks ago, i had bid on several item from a seller in italy, i was the only bidder, and the items sold to me for the start price. As soon as the auction ended, i was contacted to say that i could not have the items, because he would not post to the uk. I pointed out that it said he would on the listing, and that it seemed to me that he obviously did not get as much for the items as he wanted. He then went into a massive rant about brexit, and how the post office refused to send anyting to the uk now.

The best bit, was that he said i could have the items free, but i had to arrange to get them posted... in italy.

I dont care about politics, but when someone uses it as an escuse to pull out of a deal, thats just stupid.

He was told to go and waste someone elses time.

J

 

[OldSchoolRC1]

Ebay has become like Amazon, basically a clearinghouse for Chinese companies. I've had good luck selling on there for the most part, but haven't sold anything there in a while. The fees started becoming too much - especially when they started including the fee on the shipping cost. That's ridiculous. 

I usually sell through forums, FB marketplace, and occasionally Craigslist, though they have started charging as of late. My biggest issue is lowballs and general rudeness...I hate to haggle, wheel and deal. It's just not my thing. I post a fair price (in my mind at least) and it either sells or it doesn't. If I decide to lower it later to help it move, I will.  I'm not sure where there's a written rule in the internet world that the listed price is only a suggestion...if it doesn't say OBO, assume the price is the price, period. I've been getting just flat stupid offers, and people seem to get nasty with you for refusing them.  If I'm listing a truck for $400 FIRM as I did recently for a NIB RC4WD Marlin, no - I will not take $200. If you think it's too high, by all means move on - but keep the nasty messages to yourself. 

[JeffSpicoli]

5 hours ago, MadInventor said:

I'm done with selling on EBay. The nail in the coffin was when they cut out paypal and take payments themselves and demand your bank account details if you want to sell. It was the same reason I wiped my youtube account clean and then deleted it when Youtube emailled me to say they were going to put adverts on videos even if you're not part of their monetisation program. In my view both are fantastic example of excessive corporate greed and I don't want to finance them just for a hobby.

I only sell my RC stuff through the TamiyaClub forum now.  I've never been messed about by buyers on here fortunately. It's my hobby at the end of the day and if stuff doesn't sell it can sit in the loft going up in value until a seller comes along. Either that or I chuck low value bits in as freebees to pass them on when I sell other things.

 

 

THIS.  I forgot about this til you mentioned it.

They were def going to find a way to take more money for themselves.

And the masses just go right along with it.

[JeffSpicoli]

3 hours ago, junkmunki said:

I use ebay fairly regularly, so i have come across this quite a lot.

I was on the other end of the situation two weeks ago, i had bid on several item from a seller in italy, i was the only bidder, and the items sold to me for the start price. As soon as the auction ended, i was contacted to say that i could not have the items, because he would not post to the uk. I pointed out that it said he would on the listing, and that it seemed to me that he obviously did not get as much for the items as he wanted. He then went into a massive rant about brexit, and how the post office refused to send anyting to the uk now.

The best bit, was that he said i could have the items free, but i had to arrange to get them posted... in italy.

I dont care about politics, but when someone uses it as an escuse to pull out of a deal, thats just stupid.

He was told to go and waste someone elses time.

J

 

I had a guy on Instagram who I had a really good rapport with, @pa.deakin, he unfollowed me and stop returning my text messages, over who I supported in the US election and he's in the UK!   LIKE HUH?   

The politics of COVID and everything impacting shipping and supply chain has really driven me insane.

[alvinlwh]

1 minute ago, JeffSpicoli said:

The politics of COVID and everything impacting shipping and supply chain has really driven me insane.

Brexit is another one that is often used as an excuse. 

[JeffSpicoli]

Just now, alvinlwh said:

Brexit is another one that is often used as an excuse. 

I paid $95 to ship a camera overnight from WI to NC, and the camera sat in Indy for like 3-4 days, and I kept inquiring about why it wasn't moving and that Fedex's website clearly states packages are guaranteed by their delivery times.

Predictably they said "COVID...."  and I said, prove to me how COVID stopped you from delivering a package.   I just disputed the charge with my bank and BOOM.

[topforcein]

as i only buy from ebay i would never dream of bidding on a item unless i have the funds to pay as soon as the item ends that as always been my ethics for ebay.

but if i deceide to sell i would put up a notice in the description unless you have funds for imediant payment then dont bid and and if unpayed in this time frame it would just get passed over to ebay to sort out 

i dont have face book so cant comment on that 

but i would never give these messers the time of day tbh  if you dont have the fund to pay then dont bid simple.

 

[simalarion]

I always did just use «buy now» on Ebay and never touched the Auction part, reading this post i now understand the exitement in the feedback from the sellers i use regulary 

[SlideWRX]

I sell stuff on craigslist occasionally; don't use ebay or facebook (no account).  Craigslist is mostly Ok for me,  since cash can't be disputed or anything odd like that.  Although with actual cash, I have to figure out what to do with it, as most of what I do is through creditcard/paypal/electronic.  

I had a couple no-shows recently for an iphone which irritated me, but otherwise people have been great.  The bother with craigslist is the automated scams that you get for the first half hour after posting. probably 25+ texts saying "Is [item listing] still for sale for [price]? please email me at [generic]@gmail.com. I don't use craigslist email"