Hotlap Ranking - Tamiya Chassis

[OoALEJOoO 2776]

Racing Trucks

Shifting from the top end of the scale now to some slower cars. These trucks offered an interesting and different challenge: fully optimizing the best driving line. Slow speeds and control well within their limits allowed for extremely precise control of the driving line.

CC-01 Isuzu Mu - Best Time: 26.87"

• Chassis: CC-01
• Motor: 27T Silvercan
• FDR: 14.66 (16T pinion)
• Tires: Tamiya CR-V (19805543)
• Shocks: Kit CVA, 400 oil
• ESC: Tamiya TBLE-02S
• Servo: JX DC6015
• Radio: Flysky FS-GR3E receiver + FS-GT3B transmitter
• Hop-Ups: Full ball bearings, motor heatsink, aluminium steering, hi-torque servo saver,
• Mods: Boxed servo & electronics, rear diff spacer, front aluminium skid plate.

Except for the tighter turns 4 and 7, the entire course could be run flatout with max throttle. Only on those tight turns throttle had to be backed to prevent grip-rolling. I experimented going a bit wider at 100% throttle, but the best laptimes were achieved going just a bit wide at 50% throttle. The challenge here was to  optimize the driving line to maximize time at 100% throttle and also produce the shortest track distance. A different challenge than the fast cars. Still, the rally-raid truck was really out of its element . Switching to a 20T pinion would definitely improve the laptime although more careful driving to prevent grip-roll would be needed. I think Tamiya released a CC-01 lowering kit that could be helpful, although I think this chassis is best suited for offroad use - a hybrid between a rally car and a buggy.

MF-01X Nissan King Cab - Best Time: 38.62" 

On 11/24/2022 at 6:23 AM, Nikko85 said:

Can you run your MF01x trail truck as a comparison? 

It took some time but finally here it is. The cool little truck got its chance to go around the track.

• Chassis: MF-01X
• Motor: 80T Team Rafee
• FDR: 8.87 (17T pinion)
• Tires: Sandpaddle (19805081)
• Shocks: CVA Super-Mini with kit springs, 400 oil
• ESC: Tamiya TEU-101BK + BEC
• Servo: Futaba S3004
• Radio: Flysky FS-GR3E receiver + FS-GT3B transmitter
• Hop-Ups: Full ball bearings, motor cooler.
• Mods: Shortened wheelbase to 186mm, 7.2V 6xAAA 1000mAh NiMH battery pack.
• Settings: Loose front diff, locked rear diff.

This was the first time this truck left the house, having been built during Covid times for indoor light crawling around the house. Anything more powerful than a 50T motor resulted in crazy wheelies. I finally settled on an 80T motor that gave it sufficient speed and torque for its intended home use. It is powered by the same 6xAAA battery pack as the T3-01 trike.

If the CC-01 was slow, this truck was much slower!! It was still fun though, again the trick was optimizing the driving line for the shortest track length. Throttle was at 100% the whole lap and got the last spot on the list by a large margin.

After its maiden outdoor run, the car has been cleaned and readied for climbing pillows and cushions indoors again.

Ranking so far:

1. 16.54" F104 McLaren MP4/5
2. 16.71" Group C Mercedes C11
3. 16.74" TT-02R Nissan R390 GT1
4. 16.78" F104 ProII Minardi M189
5. 17.14" TT-02B Plasma Edge II
6. 17.54" TT-02 Ferrari LaFerrari
7. 17.84" FF-03 Opel Vectra JTCC
8. 17.88" TT-01E Nissan Skyline R34
9. 18.11" TT-02 Ferrari F12 TDR
10. 18.61" TT-01E RWD Ford Capri Zakspeed Turbo Gr.5
11. 18.71" FF-03 Toyota Tom's Levin
12. 19.27" XV-01 Toyota Celica GT-Four
13. 19.31" DT-03 Fighter Buggy
14. 19.37" TT-01E RWD Lamborghini Countach
15. 19.47" TT-02 Audi Quattro
16. 20.31" M-06Ra Mazda Miata
17. 20.61" M-05Ra Suzuki Swift Super 1600
18. 20.65" TT-01E FWD Datsun 240Z
19. 20.84" TT-02 RWD Datsun 240Z
20. 21.63" TT-01E Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI
21. 22.47" MF-01X VW Hornet Beetle
22. 26.87" CC-01 Isuzu Mu
23. 27.76" T3-01 Dual Rider
24. 38.62" MF-01X Nissan King Cab

[Nikko85 2985]

9 hours ago, OoALEJOoO said:

Racing Trucks

Shifting from the top end of the scale now to some slower cars. These trucks offered an interesting and different challenge: fully optimizing the best driving line. Slow speeds and control well within their limits allowed for extremely precise control of the driving line.

CC-01 Isuzu Mu - Best Time: 26.87"

• Chassis: CC-01
• Motor: 27T Silvercan
• FDR: 14.66 (16T pinion)
• Tires: Tamiya CR-V (19805543)
• Shocks: Kit CVA, 400 oil
• ESC: Tamiya TBLE-02S
• Servo: JX DC6015
• Radio: Flysky FS-GR3E receiver + FS-GT3B transmitter
• Hop-Ups: Full ball bearings, motor heatsink, aluminium steering, hi-torque servo saver,
• Mods: Boxed servo & electronics, rear diff spacer, front aluminium skid plate.

Except for the tighter turns 4 and 7, the entire course could be run flatout with max throttle. Only on those tight turns throttle had to be backed to prevent grip-rolling. I experimented going a bit wider at 100% throttle, but the best laptimes were achieved going just a bit wide at 50% throttle. The challenge here was to  optimize the driving line to maximize time at 100% throttle and also produce the shortest track distance. A different challenge than the fast cars. Still, the rally-raid truck was really out of its element . Switching to a 20T pinion would definitely improve the laptime although more careful driving to prevent grip-roll would be needed. I think Tamiya released a CC-01 lowering kit that could be helpful, although I think this chassis is best suited for offroad use - a hybrid between a rally car and a buggy.

MF-01X Nissan King Cab - Best Time: 38.62" 

It took some time but finally here it is. The cool little truck got its chance to go around the track.

• Chassis: MF-01X
• Motor: 80T Team Rafee
• FDR: 8.87 (17T pinion)
• Tires: Sandpaddle (19805081)
• Shocks: CVA Super-Mini with kit springs, 400 oil
• ESC: Tamiya TEU-101BK + BEC
• Servo: Futaba S3004
• Radio: Flysky FS-GR3E receiver + FS-GT3B transmitter
• Hop-Ups: Full ball bearings, motor cooler.
• Mods: Shortened wheelbase to 186mm, 7.2V 6xAAA 1000mAh NiMH battery pack.
• Settings: Loose front diff, locked rear diff.

This was the first time this truck left the house, having been built during Covid times for indoor light crawling around the house. Anything more powerful than a 50T motor resulted in crazy wheelies. I finally settled on an 80T motor that gave it sufficient speed and torque for its intended home use. It is powered by the same 6xAAA battery pack as the T3-01 trike.

If the CC-01 was slow, this truck was much slower!! It was still fun though, again the trick was optimizing the driving line for the shortest track length. Throttle was at 100% the whole lap and got the last spot on the list by a large margin.

After its maiden outdoor run, the car has been cleaned and readied for climbing pillows and cushions indoors again.

Ranking so far:

1. 16.54" F104 McLaren MP4/5
2. 16.71" Group C Mercedes C11
3. 16.74" TT-02R Nissan R390 GT1
4. 16.78" F104 ProII Minardi M189
5. 17.14" TT-02B Plasma Edge II
6. 17.54" TT-02 Ferrari LaFerrari
7. 17.84" FF-03 Opel Vectra JTCC
8. 17.88" TT-01E Nissan Skyline R34
9. 18.11" TT-02 Ferrari F12 TDR
10. 18.61" TT-01E RWD Ford Capri Zakspeed Turbo Gr.5
11. 18.71" FF-03 Toyota Tom's Levin
12. 19.27" XV-01 Toyota Celica GT-Four
13. 19.31" DT-03 Fighter Buggy
14. 19.37" TT-01E RWD Lamborghini Countach
15. 19.47" TT-02 Audi Quattro
16. 20.31" M-06Ra Mazda Miata
17. 20.61" M-05Ra Suzuki Swift Super 1600
18. 20.65" TT-01E FWD Datsun 240Z
19. 20.84" TT-02 RWD Datsun 240Z
20. 21.63" TT-01E Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI
21. 22.47" MF-01X VW Hornet Beetle
22. 26.87" CC-01 Isuzu Mu
23. 27.76" T3-01 Dual Rider
24. 38.62" MF-01X Nissan King Cab

That's awesome, thanks! I've now built mine up for speed with a 21T motor and 82 mm wheels and TL01 arms to widen. Still, great cars either way if you don't take them too seriously!! 

 

 

 

[OoALEJOoO 2776]

@Nikko85 good call, the widened arms will help a lot with grip-rolling at high speed! Always great to see Edgarmon peeking behind the windscreen!

Looking at the picture of your Land Cruiser, I recently realized that the issue of having too stiff springs on my Nissan truck only applies to the front wheels, and it's because the shocks are at an angle mounted directly into the chassis. The rears are vertical and therefore result in a much softer setup. I'll try to make a separate shock mount for the front wheels that results in vertical shocks.

[twaleta 131]

21 hours ago, OoALEJOoO said:

Racing Trucks

Shifting from the top end of the scale now to some slower cars. These trucks offered an interesting and different challenge: fully optimizing the best driving line. Slow speeds and control well within their limits allowed for extremely precise control of the driving line.

CC-01 Isuzu Mu - Best Time: 26.87"

• Chassis: CC-01
• Motor: 27T Silvercan
• FDR: 14.66 (16T pinion)
• Tires: Tamiya CR-V (19805543)
• Shocks: Kit CVA, 400 oil
• ESC: Tamiya TBLE-02S
• Servo: JX DC6015
• Radio: Flysky FS-GR3E receiver + FS-GT3B transmitter
• Hop-Ups: Full ball bearings, motor heatsink, aluminium steering, hi-torque servo saver,
• Mods: Boxed servo & electronics, rear diff spacer, front aluminium skid plate.

Except for the tighter turns 4 and 7, the entire course could be run flatout with max throttle. Only on those tight turns throttle had to be backed to prevent grip-rolling. I experimented going a bit wider at 100% throttle, but the best laptimes were achieved going just a bit wide at 50% throttle. The challenge here was to  optimize the driving line to maximize time at 100% throttle and also produce the shortest track distance. A different challenge than the fast cars. Still, the rally-raid truck was really out of its element . Switching to a 20T pinion would definitely improve the laptime although more careful driving to prevent grip-roll would be needed. I think Tamiya released a CC-01 lowering kit that could be helpful, although I think this chassis is best suited for offroad use - a hybrid between a rally car and a buggy.

MF-01X Nissan King Cab - Best Time: 38.62" 

It took some time but finally here it is. The cool little truck got its chance to go around the track.

• Chassis: MF-01X
• Motor: 80T Team Rafee
• FDR: 8.87 (17T pinion)
• Tires: Sandpaddle (19805081)
• Shocks: CVA Super-Mini with kit springs, 400 oil
• ESC: Tamiya TEU-101BK + BEC
• Servo: Futaba S3004
• Radio: Flysky FS-GR3E receiver + FS-GT3B transmitter
• Hop-Ups: Full ball bearings, motor cooler.
• Mods: Shortened wheelbase to 186mm, 7.2V 6xAAA 1000mAh NiMH battery pack.
• Settings: Loose front diff, locked rear diff.

This was the first time this truck left the house, having been built during Covid times for indoor light crawling around the house. Anything more powerful than a 50T motor resulted in crazy wheelies. I finally settled on an 80T motor that gave it sufficient speed and torque for its intended home use. It is powered by the same 6xAAA battery pack as the T3-01 trike.

If the CC-01 was slow, this truck was much slower!! It was still fun though, again the trick was optimizing the driving line for the shortest track length. Throttle was at 100% the whole lap and got the last spot on the list by a large margin.

After its maiden outdoor run, the car has been cleaned and readied for climbing pillows and cushions indoors again.

Ranking so far:

1. 16.54" F104 McLaren MP4/5
2. 16.71" Group C Mercedes C11
3. 16.74" TT-02R Nissan R390 GT1
4. 16.78" F104 ProII Minardi M189
5. 17.14" TT-02B Plasma Edge II
6. 17.54" TT-02 Ferrari LaFerrari
7. 17.84" FF-03 Opel Vectra JTCC
8. 17.88" TT-01E Nissan Skyline R34
9. 18.11" TT-02 Ferrari F12 TDR
10. 18.61" TT-01E RWD Ford Capri Zakspeed Turbo Gr.5
11. 18.71" FF-03 Toyota Tom's Levin
12. 19.27" XV-01 Toyota Celica GT-Four
13. 19.31" DT-03 Fighter Buggy
14. 19.37" TT-01E RWD Lamborghini Countach
15. 19.47" TT-02 Audi Quattro
16. 20.31" M-06Ra Mazda Miata
17. 20.61" M-05Ra Suzuki Swift Super 1600
18. 20.65" TT-01E FWD Datsun 240Z
19. 20.84" TT-02 RWD Datsun 240Z
20. 21.63" TT-01E Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI
21. 22.47" MF-01X VW Hornet Beetle
22. 26.87" CC-01 Isuzu Mu
23. 27.76" T3-01 Dual Rider
24. 38.62" MF-01X Nissan King Cab

im happy to see this thread is active again! The isuzu mu caught my eye! Might want to buy one as a basher or a mf01x lol

[Nikko85 2985]

13 hours ago, OoALEJOoO said:

@Nikko85 good call, the widened arms will help a lot with grip-rolling at high speed! Always great to see Edgarmon peeking behind the windscreen!

Looking at the picture of your Land Cruiser, I recently realized that the issue of having too stiff springs on my Nissan truck only applies to the front wheels, and it's because the shocks are at an angle mounted directly into the chassis. The rears are vertical and therefore result in a much softer setup. I'll try to make a separate shock mount for the front wheels that results in vertical shocks.

Thanks!

Yes an odd design considering how rear heavy they are! 

I've got a 3D stl. file doing that exact thing if that helps? I used it for my MF01x Land Rover to bring the shocks near vertical.

[OoALEJOoO 2776]

Thanks @Nikko85, I've got no reliable place to 3D print so I'll first try to build something out of spare plastic. If that turns too flexible, there are plenty of cheap aluminium (or even carbon) parts available given it's the same front mount used by the M-05.