Price guide idea

[Tamiya01478]

I was wondering weather it might be possible to add a price guide to the site? They type they have in classic car mags, I only ask because it might be helpful for the newcomers to the site, I remember I offered someone £20 for their mint Sand Scorcher, sorry by the way! Maybe it could be added to the existing 'Tamiya cars' page. Just an idea.

[GPZ1000RX]

About 7 years ago I sold 2 good running condition Sand Scorchers complete with period Accoms radio gear for around £50 each. I feel pretty sick now but I got them complete with four other complete cars (which I still have) for £150!

C'est la vie.

[ShenUK]

i know this has been asked before and chris said no as the prices vary from day to day, week to week ect...

but i know what you mean

like...

sand scorcher £60 - £2000 (depends on condition obviously)

to like...

hornet £30 - £70 (as i said depends on condition)

and maybe have pictures on the page

say like the Sand scorcher

from Nib prices range from = £900+ - £2000+

shelf Queen (Mint condition) = £200+ - £500+

Runner = £90+ - £150+

Project = £20+ - £100+

this is a mock up price guide prices do vary and this is my opinion on this others my agree or disagree

lol i know what will be asked for the next section to be added will be a rough price guide for new and uesd parts

better add this[:I]

At the end of the day its up to the seller on there price

some ppl see the SS as a money maker and try to sell for a high price as others just sell it for what they want sad but true

[Tamiya01478]

That's exactly what I had in mind Shen UK, just a rough guide. I'm sure some people have been ripped off by the proclomation 'Rare NIB Madbull, scare and out of production, BIN for £200' I really saw this on ebay, and a rough guide would stop newbies being ripped off.

[netsmithUK]

its a nice idea and I can see it would be very useful...

its still quite a tall order you are asking for - just think about approx 200 cars now out off production and you want 4 prices per car (800 figures) on top of that it wouldn't really be very reliable until you had 3 or 4 examples to average from ebay for each car/bracket due to seasonal trends etc, so you are now up to 3200 figures that would need to be researched and entered in the database.

That said if someone can provide me with these figures in an excel spread sheet I will happily add them to the site.

An alternative would be to have a field by each model that users can put the price they paid for it. OVer time this would build up for each car and then people could browse to see what you can get for your money.

Even then its still a bit vague - I've bought 3 hiluxs and never paid more than £100 for one, infact two were £75.00 - I've picked nearly new Scorchers for £60.00 etc. Where they bargains? To some they might be, for me it was as much as i was prepared to pay, for others its a daft amount for a 20 year old car. As Shen said its really up to the buyer to decide what they want to spend. If you only ever pay what you are happy to pay then you can't get 'ripped off', because you have bought something for a price you are happy with. If the model is more that you can afford or want to spend then walk away - it doesn't matter that that price might be considered a bargain by someone else, the fact is it was more than you wanted to spend. Thats what Newbies really need to learn, not trying to memorise fluctuating, random, world market prices.

The same stand true for when sellers say "make me an offer" - you just offer what you want to spend. They will soon tell you if it is not enough.[]

Cheers

Chris.

[GPZ1000RX]

Till about 10yrs ago I had a collection of Scalextric slot cars, there was and is a book telling the facts about each car, it also graded them by the star system for rarity and demand. A 5star would be max valuable, while 0star would be £4 or £5 in good condition. (I sold a 5star for £400 10yrs ago!)

A simple star system, as a guide only, would work well and be easy to change in the light of re releases or the secret Sand Scorcher mine being found!

[SJoerD]

If one would browse TC in the first place, search for Mad Bull, then he or she should figure out quite quickly that they are not very rare or demanded (or valueable in terms of money). And if they wouldn't then they also would find the price guide in time. []

Also, if you want to buy that rare and collectible car, and you know nothing about it, it would be obvious to document oneself on the car... I mean, you are not going to spend 200 pounds without even half knowing what you are buying, just on basis of a (false) promise of the seller "it's a rare one of a kind opportunity for a very rare car"? Or am I one of few to find this obvious? [8)]

I Chris hit the (obvious?) nail on the head. It's worth what one wants to spend, and what one wants to offer for it - not what one asks for it. Even if you like to pay 200 pounds on a Mad Bull, and you think it's worth it, it is. Not that I would ever think so, but who am I to say...? And as one will offer more than another, there is no real way to state a price that is absolutely 'true'. Ofcourse a rough guide could be done, but then again - I doubt the use of it somehow... [xx(]

I have had these same cases as Chris (and probably many others had too). I picked up Sand Scorchers and 3-speeds for prices that were a bargain to many, fair to me, to others a 'daft' ammount to give for a silly toycar.

Furthermore, I don't really like to tell everybody and everything what a bargain my car was or what I payed for it. Most off my cars wouldn't be sold even if I could get the highest 'going price' for them. Value and price are two VERY different issues... [8D]

Maybe not too relative to the subject, but I find the way I got it, the car itself, it's restoration and action pics far more interresting aspects of the hobby. Though that could be just my personal opinion. []

[bholio]

I use ebay completed items as a price guide. Too bad it only goes back a month, but its the best we have.

In my case, I've only run into 1 (one) used Tamiya RC car for sale in the wild, and it was way overpriced. All my used cars have come from ebay except for a few which were given by a friend.

Values fluctuate significantly between countries. I can't believe what UK people pay for stuff, compared to the US. Even before the big drop in the $ USD compared to the UK pound.

[Tamiya01478]

Hi Netsmith, I realise it's a vast task, but I think it would be worth it. What might be best, is that if people do some cars they are most familiar with price wise, and then you enter them on the website. I haven't a clue about Excel, but I presume it is roughly the same as microsoftworks spreadsheet.

[WillyChang]

hey T01478:- I got a better idea. Why don't you do the 'research' on eBay closing prices on all Tamiya RCs sold everyday?

Especially note down ending prices and condition of the car + what accessories were included. Secondary info handy would be location & feedback rating of the seller.

Record all the data on any electronic format you want; if you have no idea how to digest the info, I'm sure we can find some statistician on TC that'll be able to report on your findings.

So, you gunna do it? [|)]

[mud4fun]

Chris, I appreciate that this may be very difficult to do but what if when you add a new car to the showroom you fill in a simple form putting in the cost, condition and source of purchase. That way the database of values could be dynamic and updated as and when people purchase them. The condition could be a simple choice box of Poor, Reasonable, Good or Excellent. Source would be Ebay, model shop, mailorder or local newspaper etc. The volume of cars and parts purchased by TC members would pretty soon build up a pretty reasonable database. Just a thought, keep up the good work!! [][8D][][]

[netsmithUK]

m4f - i think thats what i suggested [] nice to know someelse thinks its a good idea too though.

Chris

[Tamiya01478]

Netsmith - fair enough, I'll do the cars I know best, prices, condition, etc. And e-mail you when I've done them. Wish me luck![]