Rally! 150 Posted February 4, 2023 Retro just doesn't want to die. This screams 1975. I can picture the ladies from Charlie's Angels driving it in an episode. Oh, well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saito2 6686 Posted February 4, 2023 56 minutes ago, Rally! said: Retro just doesn't want to die. I guess when today's stuff: Looks as good as yesterday's stuff: ...we can move on from retro. Its all cool though no matter what decade you like stylistically. Considering Tamiya buggies were birthed in the late 70's, I can see the appeal of the company wanting to return to that "look" as well of the bulk of their nostalgic fanbase. I wouldn't be against modeling a buggy against something newer, but I can't say I'm not ecstatic for this new BBX either. Just gotta work on the name. If RR is Rough Rider could BBX be "Bouncing Buggy Xtreme"? Erm, perhaps not. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matisse 1581 Posted February 4, 2023 Baja Buggy Xtreme maybe? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saito2 6686 Posted February 4, 2023 Just now, matisse said: Baja Buggy Xtreme maybe? Better! Lol. I guess I was hung up on on rough = bouncing. Baja Buggy is probably exactly what the Tamiya "code" is within the name. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JennyMo 3526 Posted February 4, 2023 I'm ashamed to say when I first saw the name 'BBX' - my immediate thought was: 'Big Boll oX'. fwiw. I think it will be an excellent/tough runner with a vintage look... very much the WildOne/Rought Rider mash-up other people have suggested... I'd hoped it would more like $275-299 USD (particularly since it doesn't come with a motor or ESC) - and I guess it might well end up around that price once the initial demand quietens down? - if so I might well get one! Jx 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiZZa 41 Posted February 4, 2023 Any word on gearing options ? Sliding motor mount like most cars or in true Tamiya style, a torque and top speed option ? It is my understanding that a brushless motor can handle less gearing options better as opposed to a conventional brushed motor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaveBuildsRC 210 Posted February 5, 2023 It’s available for pre order on towerhobbies at 255usd. Anyone know what’s the Bbx chassis made of? Td2 quality plastic? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smirk-racing 253 Posted February 5, 2023 ~$250 for buggy and slipper - easy decision. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smirk-racing 253 Posted February 5, 2023 4 hours ago, RiZZa said: Any word on gearing options ? Sliding motor mount like most cars or in true Tamiya style, a torque and top speed option ? It is my understanding that a brushless motor can handle less gearing options better as opposed to a conventional brushed motor. I don't know about the motor mount (haven't seen a manual posted) but given this is a modern design (at least, a design that was created recently ) I'd expect a proper sliding motor mount. To your point, though, even if the mount were fixed, brushless motors give you enough options to get what you want (gobs more power to begin with, timing options in the ESC which provide a large band, and of course the option of 2s vs 3s battery). The video showed a rounded stick pack in the vehicle, and there are plenty of 2s and 3s lipos (usually ones meant for planes, boats, or drones) that will fit within that footprint. You would just need a little foam to keep everything snug. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sosidge 624 Posted February 5, 2023 8 hours ago, DaveBuildsRC said: It’s available for pre order on towerhobbies at 255usd. Anyone know what’s the Bbx chassis made of? Td2 quality plastic? This just makes the UK list of £400 even more offensive. It's a £300 car, but Hobby Company love to put big markups on anything that isn't a basic TT-01 or a Lunch Box, 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Juhunio 6830 Posted February 5, 2023 19 minutes ago, sosidge said: This just makes the UK list of £400 even more offensive. It's a £300 car, but Hobby Company love to put big markups on anything that isn't a basic TT-01 or a Lunch Box, It’s pretty much £300 at Fusion after TC discount, but the point stands that that’s still a chunk higher than the US example above Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FoxShot 280 Posted February 5, 2023 I've been off line for a bit. This BBX is the total Mutts Nuts, The Dogs Danglies, The Cheese in my Bun, Gravy, All that and a bag of chips, Tickety-Boo. And more. Such a cool looking buggy. I want one. SO much. Dilemma though. Supposed to be saving as much as i can to buy my 2 brothers out of what was my Dads old house where we grew up and where I now live. This needs full electrics, inc motor and ESC. I have multi model transmitters. #RealWorldProblems #CoolTamiyaDoesntKeepARoofOverYourhead 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evetsyelspih 124 Posted February 5, 2023 Just ordered it and the slipper for $246.00 USD shipped from Tower. First 2wd in a long time. I couldn’t resist. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OnTheTrail 1152 Posted February 5, 2023 2 hours ago, FoxShot said: This BBX is the total Mutts Nuts, The Dogs Danglies, The Cheese in my Bun, Gravy, All that and a bag of chips, Tickety-Boo. And more. So you're saying you like it? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elbowloh 1128 Posted February 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Evetsyelspih said: Just ordered it and the slipper for $246.00 USD shipped from Tower. First 2wd in a long time. I couldn’t resist. The slipper on its own is priced at £56 in the UK! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrowka 495 Posted February 5, 2023 On 2/1/2023 at 6:39 PM, Rally! said: Can't say I'm a fan. It's really retro and it was hit by a graphics cannon. I'm sure it will be popular, though. You don't have to paint it box art. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evetsyelspih 124 Posted February 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Elbowloh said: The slipper on its own is priced at £56 in the UK! Wow!! That is crazy! It is $29.40 usd on Tower. What a major difference in price. I had no idea! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saito2 6686 Posted February 5, 2023 Put my pre-order in with Tower. The first, new, non-rerelease buggy I've purchased in many years. Now, if we're dealing with Kyosho roll-out times and production schedules, I might, just might, see this at my doorstep around Christmas 2023. Hopefully Tamiya does better . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toyolien 4680 Posted February 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, Saito2 said: Put my pre-order in with Tower. The first, new, non-rerelease buggy I've purchased in many years. Now, if we're dealing with Kyosho roll-out times and production schedules, I might, just might, see this at my doorstep around Christmas 2023. Hopefully Tamiya does better . Some UK shops are quoting end of June. Other are saying end of September. Sounds like Tamiya have waited to gauge interest before committing to production. I really wish manufacturers would have kits ready to ship the day after launch day. I hate waiting. Summer will have gone by the time it arrives... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smirk-racing 253 Posted February 5, 2023 Better dogbones and aluminum parts I can understand Tamiya offering as upgrades, but why is the slipper optional? It is an off-road vehicle, so a slipper should be helpful and part of the base kit... At least with the XV-02 I understood the choices (slipper, center diff, or spur) and those made sense given the choices you have for where and how to drive the car. This seems like a dedicated off-roader though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OnTheTrail 1152 Posted February 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Elbowloh said: The slipper on its own is priced at £56 in the UK! Wow, is that the suggested price or actual selling/street price? 56 Euros is about $67! Is stuff imported from Asia that heavily taxed in the UK? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThunderDragonCy 7881 Posted February 5, 2023 1 hour ago, OnTheTrail said: Wow, is that the suggested price or actual selling/street price? 56 Euros is about $67! Is stuff imported from Asia that heavily taxed in the UK? You have to remember we pay our sales tax as a flat rate which included in any price we quote here in the UK. Our sales tax (vat) is 20%, so like for like divide the UK price by 1.2 before you compare prices. Whilst I don't know about import taxes changing for plastic goods since brexit, certainly the value of the pound has tanked relative to almost every world currency including the Yen. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SlideWRX 785 Posted February 5, 2023 4 hours ago, smirk-racing said: Better dogbones and aluminum parts I can understand Tamiya offering as upgrades, but why is the slipper optional? It is an off-road vehicle, so a slipper should be helpful and part of the base kit... At least with the XV-02 I understood the choices (slipper, center diff, or spur) and those made sense given the choices you have for where and how to drive the car. This seems like a dedicated off-roader though... Off roaders have more 'slip' in traction vs on-road or carpet. Dirt lets the tires slip. I mean wheelspin is not great for control, but for protecting the gearbox the same effective result. Also, 2wd spins easier vs 4wd so less need for a slipper to protect the gears. From a practical point of view, mild brushed setups like the stock 540, Torque Tuned and probably even Sport Tuned don't really need it if paired with NiMH. 5.5T Brushless & 3S Lipo, yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SlideWRX 785 Posted February 5, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 4:01 PM, Saito2 said: ...we can move on from retro. Not all of the buggies out there these days are bad. Baja buggies these days are basically the trucks without the truck body, so it often looks like a boat hull with wheels. Can't argue the ugly there. However the Race Of Champions Buggys do it for me, Initially made in 1999, this one below run in 2012. A little small, so the cockpit is a bit big for the proportions, but I still like it. The Ariel Nomad (introduced 2015) is one I'd like to see an RC version of: Don't give up hope! people are still producing cool off-road buggies. EDIT: And don't forget the Local Motors Rally Fighter! Ok, maybe not a buggy, but it needs to be made into RC... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuggyGuy 1106 Posted February 5, 2023 4 hours ago, smirk-racing said: Better dogbones and aluminum parts I can understand Tamiya offering as upgrades, but why is the slipper optional? It is an off-road vehicle, so a slipper should be helpful and part of the base kit... At least with the XV-02 I understood the choices (slipper, center diff, or spur) and those made sense given the choices you have for where and how to drive the car. This seems like a dedicated off-roader though... I think it's because most Tamiya cars tend to be relatively idiot proof - plenty of people in the target market for this might not want to figure out how to set a slipper correctly, or set it too loose, or it will loosen over time and the car will loose drive (and potentially the nut and spring etc.) A lot of owners might not even a need a slipper anyway E.g. anything less powerful than a 17.5 brushless probably won't need a slipper - at least from a drivetrain protection point of view. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites