I want to build a TA02T F-150 baja, what kit to start from?

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I want to build a TA02T (F-150 baja).

What current production kit is the closest to what I would need to make one? 

What parts will be hard or border line impossible to get when converting the TA02? to at TA02T? 

What I see right now in stock is the 1/10 Lancia 037 Rally TA02-S Kit 58654A, is this even close?  What is a good way to start comparing possible kits to a TA02T? 

Edit: or maybe 1/10 R/C Opel Calibra V6 (TA02) TAM47461?

Thanks. 

[Superluminal 3750]

The Lancia 037 has the short wheelbase rear arms.

Your best bet would be the Calibra kit and you can build the dampers to the longest length by omitting the internal spacers. 

Think the wheels and tyres are the same as used on various CC01 kits so readily available.

Body shell will likely need to be an aftermarket one

[DaveBuildsRC 210]

Body here 

https://teambluegroove.com/products/vintage-tbg-baja-truck-body-for-tamiya-f150-58161-ta02-chassis

 

[Thommo 1217]

 

Good spot on damper length, pretty sure the TA02T dampers have a longer damper shaft and taller springs than the touring cars.  The front bumper is different, it's the narrow one to clear the bigger tires on turns

For accuracy, you will also need TA01 or DF01 front uprights (the C hub and the steering knuckle) and importantly TA01 suspension arms (upper and lower).  TA02 front uprights still work with TA02 front arms, however the wheelbase is then slightly different at the front. The TA01 parts in particular the flipped over rear suspension arms give the TA02T its unique wheelbase.

Edit - Link to manual

https://www.tamiya.com/english/rc/rcmanual/58495.pdf

The front wheel axles are different also if you're going with the OG - TA01 front uprights.

 

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Thanks for the help so far.  

I already downloaded the TA02T manual vs the TA02S.

Does anyone know where to find the 1/10 R/C Opel Calibra V6 (TA02) TAM47461 manual?  I can only find the old 1990s version, with old part numbers.  

[Busdriver 6209]

10 hours ago, DTSCB said:

Thanks for the help so far.  

I already downloaded the TA02T manual vs the TA02S.

Does anyone know where to find the 1/10 R/C Opel Calibra V6 (TA02) TAM47461 manual?  I can only find the old 1990s version, with old part numbers.  

Under my bed. I can photo the parts section if a get a chance later today. Currently up a ladder with a roller in hand. Actually just sat down to admire my handiwork but you get what I mean!!!

[Busdriver 6209]

This is the generic instructions that come with the Calibra. The body st instructions are separate. If you need a particular bit enlarged let me know. 








Just to throw a curved ball at you the Asterion is an XV01 version of the Chevy. The Ford body would also fit. Makes an amazing truck. 

[Aerobert 2136]

Otherwise you could find it here:

https://customer-service.tamiya.de/de/service/anleitungen/?lp=7&ln=90&ls=name-asc&ps=7

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Thanks for all of the manuals and information.  I first compared the TA02T manual to the original 58161 manual of the F-150.  They are pretty close.  Some part number changes, but I think still basically the same.

I'm still working my way through the parts and builds, but the Lancia has the same D tree for control arms (only uses 2 of 4 arms and has a F tree).  The Opel (TA02 generic manual) has a different D tree and plus F/K trees for arms. 

I also noticed the steering linkage is on the N tree for the TA02T (looks impossible to find one at the moment).  Not sure if the included turn buckles for the Opel/Lancia will be the correct length or not. 

Edit: (I still need to do another pass on the manuals)

-List: F-150 TA02T vs Lancia TA02S

Front Uprights are different 10440378 2x

-Front shafts are different 50883 2x

Front step screws (top/bottom) 84175 4x are different (4x11.5mm vs 4x10mm)

C Tree is Different 10009611 (but wow are the pictures close!)

The coils are different.  19805484 2x  Piston rods are surprisingly the same!

Dampener mounts are different (MC6 19804471 2x which is bigger for the TA02T vs MC10 50593 4x6mm)

-Front wheel axles are different 50823 2x (TA02T front/rear are the same)

N Tree (front bumper/steering links) and looks impossible to find 10115202

Rims

Tires

Body

Decals

 

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I ordered a Lancia 58654A and followed the F150 Baja 58161 directions setting out all of the parts for each step.  (No, they don't have the same order, it'll get a little messy.)

I noted all of the F150 58161 steps MISSING parts from the Lancia 58654A kit.  (Note, the C Trees are the same.)  

#15 Front Uprights (0445098 blue)  I used 04445504036 aka 58144/136/125/120 red front uprights as they match the original '95 kit
#15 MA20 x2 Wheel Axle (50823, currently available)
#15 MA29 x4 1150 Bearings (You'll need a TA02T bearing kit as the the Lancia doesn't have all the same sizes as the front uprights are different)

#16 MB11 x4 4x11.5mm Step Screw (84175 listed as 5x)

#17 MA18 x2 Drive Shaft 39mm (50833, currently available, sold in pairs)

#20 MC1 x4 Coil Springs (58181/178 aka 9805484 sold in pairs, you'll need 2 pairs for 4)

#21 MC3 x2 3x20mm Screw (fine/machine thread) (49278 aka 9805895, listed as 10x)
#21 MC6 x2 Damper Mount HARD TO FIND (58495 AKA 9804471, I found a set of 4x on ebay from an F350 kit and paid too much)

#22 MA25 x4 3x14mm Step Screw (50582 aka 44002 listed as 5x)

#24 MA27 x1 3mm washer (50586 aka 44002, listed as 12x)  You might have spares of these from other kits.

#26 N2 from N Tree -> DISCONTINUED -> These are the steering links.  MD3 x2 (you have 1 of these plus two longer) with D3 (x4, x2 on each tree) MD3 is 3x18mm Threaded Shaft (2500024)  This was hard to find, but you can use other thread shaft or cut the kit ones down maybe?

#27 MA25 x2 3x14mm Step Screw (50582 aka 44002 listed as 5x)
#27 MA27 x2 3mm Washer (50586 aka 44002, listed as 12x)  You might have spares of these from other kits.

#30 N3  from N Tree -> DISCONTINUED -> Front Bumper  Not sure what I will do here, I may modify the kit E tree bumper to work.  (58537 aka 0115202)

#31 Wheel (58136/132 aka 0445516, currently available)
#31 Tire  (58136/132 aka 9805481, currently available)

#34 Body (58495 aka 1825673) -> After Market

#35 Paint Mask (58495 aka 9495678) -> After Market

#36 Side Panels (58495 aka 4945678) -> I found these on ebay, not sure if After Market Body will include them or not

#37 Decals (58495 aka 9495678) -> After Market

Happy hunting. 

[Sogogi 3217]

That is more complicated than i thought… I will just slap cc-01 wheels tires with the long damper setup then put a truck body on…

(got opel calibra ta-02 to make it f150/s10 ish looking truck  )

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17 hours ago, Sogogi said:

That is more complicated than i thought… I will just slap cc-01 wheels tires with the long damper setup then put a truck body on…

(got opel calibra ta-02 to make it f150/s10 ish looking truck  )

In the US at least, the Opel Calibra is getting hard to find.  I could get the lancia much cheaper delivered to my door. 

The lancia from a parts stand point, it closer than the Opel. 

If you just want to make something similar via tires and body, sure, that could work.