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Yeah the mods have an alarm that goes off when somebody goes in to completely change their posts, and as we all know that means the power of revision is in the wrong hands so they lock it [;)].

Posted

Good info Phil not on topic....Thread Lock not Locked threads..[xx(]

"think lockings a great idea when sombody hits the nail on the head as it were, so to avoid tedious disection and pontification (I'm also guilty there [;)]). Phil"

Posted

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Originally posted by pleiku68

My Point is this..."Who decides that the nail was hit on the head"..The poster, the reader, the
--->administrator/moderators<---
????Seems like a one sided solution and, at best, it is a form sensorship..Jerry

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yep! [B)]

Posted

I think one of the main reasons for a topic being locked is differences of opinion can start to get out of hand, and its best to stop it early. The best way of avoiding a topic being locked I think is to read all the posts before putting something in there yourself to make sure your not saying something that has already been said. and take other peoples opinion and interests into account or you can upset people, which can start the ball rolling. I am guilty myself of some heated replys but only when people think there opinion is not just an opinion its the law.

Posted

Are we going off on a tangent[:I]

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Originally posted by WillyChang
quote:
Originally posted by pleiku68

My Point is this..."Who decides that the nail was hit on the head"..The poster, the reader, the
--->administrator/moderators<---
????Seems like a one sided solution and, at best, it is a form sensorship..Jerry

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yep! [
B)
]

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Posted

Who locks topics - us, the mods. Bottom line is someone HAS to decide, just the same as the mods have to decide what is classed as swearing, what is classed as aggressive posting etc. Who decides on Administrators, that is me.

On every post here, on every thread we have to make a judgement call on weather to let it go or not, and before anyone says we should let all post go and people should just use their common sense - I would love that to be possible it would save us mods no end of hassle, but unfortunately as has been proved time and time again it just doesn't work.

Its unfortunate that it tends to be the ones that do use the forums properly feel they are being censored - if anyone has another way of running a busy board like this then I'm all ears.

It was just felt that the thread in question had ran its course having already gone around in circles a few times and already having had several imflamatory posts posted to it, which had been removed (largely for being personal remarks about other posters, as opposed to the topic). The original poster of the forum, naturally concluded his argument and I summed up - at this point it had really ran its course. Next couple of posts added nothing new but ran the risk of stirring the whole thing up again.

To be honest another mod locked that thread, but I was already thinking about it myself, they just beat me to it. Some threads are obvious candidates for being locked others are border line. As mods we just use our judgement, based on having done it for years.

We NEVER close/edit thread just because people disagree with us or the club rules.

Threads can be locked or even deleted for lots of reasons, buts it really is quite rare and normally only happens when threads get out of hand. Of the 50,000 posts on this forum I bet we've locked under 50.

Is this censorship - yes, I guess it is.

Will we continue to run the club like this - yes. Unless someone can suggest an alternative.

I've said it a million times, any topic, within the scope of the club is discussable - as was shown by that thread, this one and countless others. The main criteria for any being allowed to run or left open is keeping the post about the topic and not making personal remarks about other posters - this is dodgy gound. These type of threads always descend into personal slanging matches which is not good for the board or the club.

Sorry if this upsets anyone but its carried us through all these years to now, with negligioble amount of comment or complaint. But as I said before I am always up for discussing any area of the running of the club.

Chris

Posted

Not pointing the finger at you, Chris - not by far. [:D]

Having been mod on Roby's and current mod elsewhere... t'is a fine line tread between censure and liberties eg threads should stay on topic. The opportunity to exercise one's judgement over others

work will always be an unrewarding task, some victims take it very personally.

TC is pretty liberal in that respect... although if one had to point a finger, certain posters should learn take a breath & re-read before acting.

Lord forbid if we ever be run by the Tr1n1ty T3ch-Ta1k ***. There they want you to talk only good things about their current products, and they'll kill your thread if it strays even the slightest bit awry.

The web community is avoids TTT like the plague. [|)]

Posted

Ok, in the said locked thread, I posted a question in a post that was removed. Now, I don't think it was particularly inflammatory yet it disapeared. Now, I fully understand the line that the moderators must walk when considering whether or not some posts are questionable BUT I feel that my post raised a valid concern. Am I mad? No. Do I feel that the mods censored my post? Yes, but it's their website, and really, I am subject to their rules.

Also, I agree with Willy, the rules are pretty liberal.

Chris (and other mods) - you do a great job. Thank you. [:D]

Posted

Hi Richie

I don't remember all the ones that were edited/removed if you email me and remind me I'll do my best to give you a reason. I'm always happy to do this if anyone asks about any of our judgements.

I remember one post was edited or maybe removed (not saying it was you) because the poster put some thing like "Have you guys got nothing better to do other than complain", rest of the post was ok I think - This statement the sort of thing that causes us problems, as no longer are we talking about the topic but about the individuals - effectively the poster is insinuating something about the other poster. It may seem harmless enough but its just the sort of thing that the original poster is bound to respond too, probably in an equally personal manner and it all kicks off from there. This particular post came along at a time the thread was walking a fine line between reasoned debate and personal arguments. What posters have to realise is this is a public forum where the written word is read by people that can't tell if you are making 'jokey' type sarcastic comments or personal attacks. Willy is right, all it takes is for people to think about how their actual posts will read, as opposed how sounds in their head.

If topics stick to the issues generally there is no problem at all.

On another point talking of censorship and moderation, in fact all subscribers do it. You have the model comments option and each comment that gets made about your model you have the choice of displaying or not. The principle is the same just smaller scale.

Cheers

Chris

Posted

It was me! [B)]

Many topics can get out of hand - and to be honest go around and around in blinking circles for no reason......people all to easily get the wrong "gist" or "idea" of what others are tryiong to say - and throughout that particular thread we are talking about - it got very close to heated on more than one occasion because of this.

Twice these misintupretations were corrected maturely - only to be opened up again by more posts "having a go".....

I made the call - I think everyone gets the idea...blame me!!

At least I am miles away and you cant get me !! [;)]

Jerry - speak to you soon mate !!

cheers

Darryn

Posted

Thanks for the wonderful expainations[:)]..but all my screws are still loose!!![:(].....Jerry

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Originally posted by RETRO R/C

It was me! [
B)
]

Many topics can get out of hand - and to be honest go around and around in blinking circles for no reason......people all to easily get the wrong "gist" or "idea" of what others are tryiong to say - and throughout that particular thread we are talking about - it got very close to heated on more than one occasion because of this.

Twice these misintupretations were corrected maturely - only to be opened up again by more posts "having a go".....

I made the call - I think everyone gets the idea...blame me!!

At least I am miles away and you cant get me !! [
;)
]

Jerry - speak to you soon mate !!

cheers

Darryn

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Posted

Who started this debate?????[:I]

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Originally posted by Scorchio

What is the purpose of locking a topic? Is the topic getting too much interest or diversity? Well dear reader [
:(
] Go ahead shoot me now. [
:o
)]

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Posted

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Originally posted by netsmithUK

What posters have to realise is this is a public forum where the written word is read by people that can't tell if you are making 'jokey' type sarcastic comments or personal attacks.

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isn't that what the Smilies are for [;)] don't want to [:(!] anyone [:I] but if they used the smilies [:P] it would stop [}:)] [B)] [:(!] and ppl wouldn't be [8)] and asking [?] that some times [:0] ppl [:(] the mods have a job to do and don't need to pucker up [:X] @$$ if it needs locking / Editing [V] i guess it will be done and you would think everything would be [8D] but some ppl just [:o)] around to get ppl [:(!]

i know i've not use them all here but did try and fit them in [:P] the [:D][:)] indicate how your feeling about some thing and if well all used them might help the running of the board better we can but try [xx(]

Posted

quote:
Originally posted by pleiku68

Who started this debate?????[:I]

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[^] ROTFL [^] Who edited all their posts in this debate? Nice one Jerry [8D][:D] Loving it! this threads become a shining example of mod purpose.

& [8D] Shen [;)]......[:D]

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Originally posted by netsmithUK

Shall I lock this now ? [
;)
]

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PLEEEEEASE!!!!!!!![:D]

Posted

Willy is a very helpfull, prolific poster - but not admin !! [:D]

Now - this is how a forum should be - all fits and giggles !! [^]

Cheers

Darryn

Posted

quote:
Originally posted by pleiku68

my screws are still loose!!![
:(
].....Jerry

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You said it Jerry, try editing this one LOL [:D] If your reading this thread for the first time it used to make sense [8)] honest!

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