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On-Road version of the XV-02 coming soon.

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58726 XV-02RS PRO On-Road Chassis Kit
 
New Hop-Up parts:
22074 XV-02RS Front-Post Stabilizer Bars*
22075 XV-02 Reinforced Lower Frame*
22076 XV-02RS 3.5mm Shock Absorber Carbon Supports (1+1)*
 
(*Tentative descriptions)
 
Kit description:
This time the kit is mostly on-road oriented, and features upgrades like this such as dedicated 3.5mm thick carbon fiber shock absorber tubes, aluminum cylinder oil shock absorbers employing the appropriate shaft length for road performance and carbon fiber reinforced rigid lower deck.
 
Model information:
• Features oil filled shock absorbers with aluminum cylinders employing a shaft length suited to road performance and dedicated 3.5mm thick carbon fiber shock mounts and carbon fiber reinforced rigid lower deck.
• 18-spoke wheels are paired with semi-slick racing tyres.
• Mid-front positioned engine plus long front and rear drive shafts of equal length.
• Comes with two 39T differential gears and one 40T differential gear for front and rear wheel drive adjustment.
• Use 39-tooth gears (with 15-tooth gears) on the front and rear for standard drivetrain balance, 39-tooth gears (with 15-tooth gears) on the front, and 40T gear (with 15T gears) on the rear for the balance of the forward drivetrain and vice versa for the balance of the rearward lean drivetrain. *Use the latter two with slipper clutch and center differential.
• Longitudinal battery pack is positioned center left for optimum balance.
• The flat underbody of the chassis and the angle of slip on the front bumper further contribute to limiting surface contact.
• Caster blocks have a six degree angle.
• Includes front and rear universal drive shafts and an aluminum servo mount.
• Please note that a polycarbonate frame cover is not included in this version.
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Very interesting.  I wonder if the intent is as a road-spec rally car?  Seems a bit odd as a full on touring car?  But then again, maybe not...

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Yeah, the only reason why I got the XV02-Pro was because it was intended for semi-on/semi-off road driving.. basically for bashing around the house.  If going strictly onroad on a clean track, I would choose another car..

 

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Agree, especially with how the battery is being installed. While I don’t care for the center of gravity too much in rally car (which is primarily a fun scale basher to me as there are no competitions for them around), for an on-road car with potential track use it matters a lot.

That being said, I was thinking about an XV-02 for parking lot bashing as is much more accessible for me to visit a rough surface parking lot than a smooth surface one. It is still a parking lot, so no loose surface as in most rallying conditions. This release might end up on my shopping list 😅

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While I’m not unhappy with the release of the carbon reinforced chassis. And the road going version will make a great car park basher. 
 

I’m very disappointed that it’s not a XV02B with a longer chassis, buggy arms and towers to suit. 
 

a lot of potential for a club level 4wd racing buggy since the TD4 didn’t manage to fill those shoes. A longer chassis would mean they could bring the 53/47 weight balance back to 50/50, include the center diff as standard. 

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Confirmed and corrected (vs. first post) hop-up descriptions:
 
22074 XV-02RS Stabilizer Set F/R
22075 XV-02 Carbon Reinforced Lower Deck
22076 XV-02 Short Carbon Damper Stay Set

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XV-01TC made some sense as a modern TA03F iteration.

Road going XV02 makes no sense at all, unless Tamiya make entirely new chassis with flat battery and flat underside - which I doubt. And if it has TRF420 style suspension, it won't be even usable for rally (it is interesting that suspension design is not mentioned)

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1 hour ago, Mokei Kagaku said:

Thanks for the update!

Kind of *p*i*s*s*ed the carbon towers were not included in my XV02-Pro nor the stabilizers as those are like a must-have imho.. well, I've yet to get the CF towers as there is no meaning to getting them for just looks in my case due to body covering them all the time.  :lol:  The stabilizers are needed to get the most out of the car using the kit springs for me.. even if I only drive it on my pylon test course the stabilizers did wonders.

Once my XV01 wears out I will be moving my XV02-Pro to my outdoor-only car collection and continue driving the Delta body.  B)

 

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1 hour ago, Mokei Kagaku said:

The first photos:

 

So it's basically just XV-02 short damper spec 😃 With that suspension geometry and center of gravity, they should've included the stabilizer

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I was going to say that I could see this working as a drift car...but the CoG is a bit too high. I really don't understand the point other than trying to get some more mileage out of a (presumably) underselling chassis. I don't see this working as a racer (and Tamiya has plenty of dedicated chassis for on-road racing), and for just bashing about dusty car parks a bare bones TT02 will do that just fine (if not better).

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I think the primary target is Japanese rallye competition. I have seen it in videos such as Tamiya RC Live, they take a couple of small ramps/bumps and put them on a regular on-road course – in this particular case this car could work well. 

Screenshot taken from here: https://www.youtube.com/live/VS5EKCJHo8s?feature=share&t=876

 

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2 hours ago, zuqbu said:

in this particular case this car could work well. 

I think that in this particular case, a TT-02 with XV-02 suspension would perform even better :) Basically, XV-02 built into reinforced TT-02 bathtub - that would provide interesting balance between onroad and off-road capabilities. But XV-02 with shorter dampers and slightly stiffer chassis? That doesn't sound good...

 

 

 

 

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On 6/13/2023 at 11:44 AM, Honza said:

I think that in this particular case, a TT-02 with XV-02 suspension would perform even better :) Basically, XV-02 built into reinforced TT-02 bathtub - that would provide interesting balance between onroad and off-road capabilities. But XV-02 with shorter dampers and slightly stiffer chassis? That doesn't sound good...

 

 

 

 

Probably you’re right, I made a guess to understand the point of this release. I have no idea about Japanese competitions and the best suited car for the purpose – but from what I have seen on their coverage on Youtube there seems to be a popular class around this. If Tamiya is in control of that and limits the entries to rallye chassis, then this would eliminate TT02s from the competition.

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On 6/13/2023 at 2:33 AM, zuqbu said:

I think the primary target is Japanese rallye competition. I have seen it in videos such as Tamiya RC Live, they take a couple of small ramps/bumps and put them on a regular on-road course – in this particular case this car could work well. 

Screenshot taken from here: https://www.youtube.com/live/VS5EKCJHo8s?feature=share&t=876

 

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I'm still not sure what makes this kit better than taking an XV-01 kit (which comes with a bodyshell wheels and etc) and adding street tires onto it.

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2 hours ago, zuqbu said:

Probably you’re right, I made a guess to understand the point of this release. I have no idea about Japanese competitions and the best suited car for the purpose – but from what I have seen on their coverage on Youtube there seems to be a popular class around this. If Tamiya is in control of that and limits the entries to rallye chassis, then this would eliminate TT02s from the competition.

You might be right, I'm just sharing my opinion - I have some experience with rally on similar surface - you want as much droop as possible to handle jumps, but low ride height, CG and stabilizers for faster cornering. But this chassis seems to do the exact opposite.

Also, there already is/was front motor onroad chassis - TB-05 and TC-01, both appear to fail - why they're trying third time?

 

@Kowalski86Re-release of XV-01TC would be nice for sure. They could throw out the rear and market it as FF-04Pro 😁

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I'll buy it regardless of how useless it will be!

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It's an addiction 

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If the intention is to run as on road rally with jumps the xv02 will still be superior to the XV01 if not for any other reason than it jumps much better and you can build in more neutral handling. It’ll trade off a bit against a TT02 still, but the extra castor/kickup/antidive and antisquat that can be built into the XV02 will probably still be an advantage when the going gets rough. 

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On 6/13/2023 at 3:33 AM, zuqbu said:

I think the primary target is Japanese rallye competition. I have seen it in videos such as Tamiya RC Live, they take a couple of small ramps/bumps and put them on a regular on-road course – in this particular case this car could work well. 

Screenshot taken from here: https://www.youtube.com/live/VS5EKCJHo8s?feature=share&t=876

 

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yes i also think so looks like its combining rally and on road 

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On 6/13/2023 at 12:33 AM, zuqbu said:

I think the primary target is Japanese rallye competition. I have seen it in videos such as Tamiya RC Live, they take a couple of small ramps/bumps and put them on a regular on-road course – in this particular case this car could work well. 

Screenshot taken from here: https://www.youtube.com/live/VS5EKCJHo8s?feature=share&t=876

 

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This is really cool, in particular I love how the cars roll in the corners. Too fast to be realistic obviously but awesome nonetheless.

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So it's a touring car that can take small jumps, and has more body roll than usual?

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1 hour ago, Kowalski86 said:

So it's a touring car that can take small jumps, and has more body roll than usual?

More or less. I'm not sure about jumps, XV-02 is quite low under differentials.

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