Kowalski86 4549 Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Badcrumble said: But does that mean the end of the TT-01 / TT-02? The BT will likely fill a different role than the TT series. If anything it's sort of an FF-03 replacement (though closer to the FF-02 in philosophy). An entry level chassis with more "scale" to the drivetrain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badcrumble 4430 Posted October 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Kowalski86 said: The BT will likely fill a different role than the TT series. If anything it's sort of an FF-03 replacement (though closer to the FF-02 in philosophy). An entry level chassis with more "scale" to the drivetrain. Agreed, that makes sense,. An entry-level car rather than a racer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kowalski86 4549 Posted October 30, 2023 I'm still mixed on this chassis, but it'd be fun watching a spec class with everyone running different drivetrain setups. I'm hoping that becomes a thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Honza 1234 Posted October 30, 2023 26 minutes ago, alvinlwh said: I had been shot down for saying Tamiya should release a TT-03 instead of reboxing a 10yo chassis and releasing it as a SRX. Now they come out with this instead. 🤷 How would you imagine a TT-03? I doubt that Tamiya would make anything more capable with better materials - that was TB-series and Tamiya axed it.. And once they put in TRF suspension and XV-02 diffs, I don't see many ways to improve it either. If they'll make a new TT-chassis, it will only serve to reduce costs by unifying it with MB/BT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kpowell911 2328 Posted October 30, 2023 4 hours ago, acprc said: Box art for 58733 Toyota Supra (JZA80) Is this shell any different to say the orange TT02D? #58613 https://www.modelsport.co.uk/product/tamiya-toyota-supra-drift-tt-02d-389767 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Willy iine 18842 Posted October 30, 2023 23 hours ago, Pylon80 said: Am I right to say that it would then be the first ever RWD touring size chassis ever made by Tamiya, that is not a pan car? That, is really exciting and long overdue. Anyone knows what the wheels and tires are on the picture? They suspiciously resemble m chassis wheel and tires... Edit: the two sets of holes look like they have a lot more than 6mm of difference between them so I am not sure they enable 251mm vs. 257mm wheelbases. Edit2: I recognize the wheels and tires now these are full TC size It would only be fun until newbies figure out RWD is difficult to drive on dusty surfaces.. and would be funny if Tamiya decides to make this into a drift car and there is no steering angle if similar to MB01 steering. I am sure Tamiya is trying to make a new class for their domestic market races at entry level... and if their track is sticky, RWD can work. But entry level is where RTR shines and those cars drive well on sidewalks and street no problem.. and knuckles don't pop out. Not sure how much the BT01 is, but the FazerMk2 RTR is only like $250.. and comes painted and all.. how do you compete with such a complete package (at entry level).. I mean learning how to paint and build things is great, but reality is it's only a small percentage that probably want to build them themselves. Most like to just drive it.. like kids wanting to play baseball. They usually just want to hit, not pitch.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pylon80 4148 Posted October 30, 2023 4 hours ago, alvinlwh said: I had been shot down for saying Tamiya should release a TT-03 instead of reboxing a 10yo chassis and releasing it as a SRX. Now they come out with this instead. 🤷 You have been shot down so many times we should call you 'nine lives' 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Honza 1234 Posted October 30, 2023 58 minutes ago, Willy iine said: and would be funny if Tamiya decides to make this into a drift car and there is no steering angle if similar to MB01 steering What limits the steering on MB01? Limiters on arms ot the mechanism itself? This seems to have removable limiters on arms (interestingly in the video, they are mounted at the back), so steering might be a bit better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Willy iine 18842 Posted October 30, 2023 9 hours ago, Honza said: What limits the steering on MB01? Limiters on arms ot the mechanism itself? This seems to have removable limiters on arms (interestingly in the video, they are mounted at the back), so steering might be a bit better. Yeah, I removed the stops on mine and it’s only marginally better. When you see how much steering angle other cars have, it just does not make any sense to me why Tamiya would go backwards in time.. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisRx718 4712 Posted October 30, 2023 Makes sense that the front end looks so peculiar - just like an MB-01 it can be set up as a FWD or RWD chassis. I'm guessing we won't see an FF05 any time soon, but this would make a good spec series which allowed both FWD and RWD in the same class. It should hopefully wind up being cheap too, as it looks very simple. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sogogi 3362 Posted October 30, 2023 Now i think of it… i am but more interested in this for fwd config… Also heard some tt chassis hopups can be used according to @Mokei Kagaku’s post on FB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pylon80 4148 Posted October 30, 2023 7 hours ago, acprc said: Box art for 58733 Toyota Supra (JZA80) Since the 90's Tamiya has been releasing various scale models that are RWD in 1:1, like the the Porsche's, with AWD touring chassis. Apparently we can't drive a RWD RC car A lot of people have made conversions. Finally, we are getting an independent suspension RWD 1/10 scale chassis. And I see adjustable rear toe 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Honza 1234 Posted October 30, 2023 34 minutes ago, Sogogi said: Now i think of it… i am but more interested in this for fwd config… Also heard some tt chassis hopups can be used according to @Mokei Kagaku’s post on FB Same as MB-01, plus driveshafts. It'd be nice, if S-Type suspension fit too, but MB-01 has suspension mounts in one piece with diff cover, so there would be no way to adjust rear toe-in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
svenb 4517 Posted October 30, 2023 If it's RWD and there's a load of unnecessary blue bling available for it I'm in👍🏻🙄 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kpowell911 2328 Posted October 30, 2023 Why does it already look dated? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frog Jumper 4065 Posted October 30, 2023 21 hours ago, Willy iine said: Meh... dame neee.. If Tamiya is trying to win in the entry level price point, they will fail. Honto ne?!? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Willy iine 18842 Posted October 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Frog Jumper said: Honto ne?!? dame desho.. tabun korejyaa.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pylon80 4148 Posted October 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Willy iine said: dame desho.. tabun korejyaa.. Eto... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sogogi 3362 Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Pylon80 said: Eto... なに Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SlideWRX 1002 Posted October 31, 2023 On 10/29/2023 at 1:39 PM, Honza said: You can see between these two pics the arms are different - they look like they sit ~10mm further away from the chassis. So this is a base/beginner FWD/RWD for 257ish bodies. It is really weird that they included the tunnel to the unused drive side. As mentioned above there is no room for a drive shaft... (edit: well they kinda didn't, dunno...) Also, Tamiya chassis designations are just all over the place. This is a long MB-01, so why not call it LB-01? Give us hope for a 1/12 variant SB-01... Don't know how it went from MB to BT. Their buggies were TD4 & TD2, which would make a (someday) DT-04 release really confusing to someone new to Tamiya. Also, the BB-01. If MB was Mini-Beginner, This should be Touring-Beginner, TB-01. Would that make the BB a Beginner Buggy? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kowalski86 4549 Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, SlideWRX said: Also, the BB-01. If MB was Mini-Beginner, This should be Touring-Beginner, TB-01. Would that make the BB a Beginner Buggy? These is my guesses: MB-01: Mini Beginner 01 TB-01: Touring Beginner 01 (kinda redundant when the "Touring Trainer 02" exists) BBX: Something Buggy Xtreme? Doesn't really seem like a "Beginners Buggy" to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Ax 10965 Posted October 31, 2023 Hmm... I've only just picked up this news, and it's kinda... Well, I don't know how I feel about it, to be honest. I like that we're getting FWD / RWD chassis and I like that we're getting alternate wheelbase options. It's kind of bothered me that literally all 1:10 touring bodies are the same wheelbase. There used to be some good SWB touring bodies (Corolla WRC, for e.g.) and I never understood why the Civic wasn't an SWB either. So maybe we'll get several wheelbase options and a re-release of some classic shorter touring bodies, just to add some variety to life. On the other hand, the whole thing does look rather boxy and dated. I know that an adjustable wheelbase, adjustable drivetrain chassis will never be as good as a dedicated race chassis on track, but the bulky transmission cases, boxy plastic tub and strange motor position remind me of the early toy-grade RTRs, and it all looks really cramped and chaotic. As others have said, maybe it'll make a good one-make series (which will inevitably split into FWD and RWD classes) and it'll be nice for modellers who want the right drivetrain under their bodies (to be fair I've been asking for this option for years), but I don't know how much interest it's going to get outside of Japan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites