The XM-01 fanbase or general info on this new pro chassis 58738

[toyolien 6070]

53 minutes ago, chris.alex said:

I'm using mine as a road only car until now. Took it to the track three times and I really like the car. It is a great on-road car, especially on a rather narrow circuit. I plan to run it off-road too, I just didn't have the opportunity yet. 

Great, thanks, I have an XV-02 and am just trying to justify this as well. 

[Kpowell911 2293]

Im selling mine BNIB if anyone is after one slightly below retail (UK)

[pamarakos 9]

One little question before maybe purchasing one of these...interesting I think compared to XV and maybe a little more fun?

Now to the question:)))

Battery size is the same as tt-02?

[chris.alex 1517]

6 minutes ago, pamarakos said:

Battery size is the same as tt-02?

No, it's not the same. I can't fit my two largest Lipos that I use in my TT02 into the XM01. 

[pamarakos 9]

17 minutes ago, chris.alex said:

No, it's not the same. I can't fit my two largest Lipos that I use in my TT02 into the XM01. 

Size used in xm01?

[RallyX 19]

Just now, pamarakos said:

Size used in xm01?

My 6000mah racing packs with bullets fit fine, as well as my Protek rounded lipo, because both cables are near the center. None of my other hardcase lipos fit due to the cables being at the corners, not do my packs with a higher capacity.

[pamarakos 9]

2 minutes ago, RallyX said:

My 6000mah racing packs with bullets fit fine, as well as my Protek rounded lipo, because both cables are near the center. None of my other hardcase lipos fit due to the cables being at the corners, not do my packs with a higher capacity.

Good thing to know...almost all my tt02 batteries are centered cabled...hmmm

[Rinskie 1084]

7 hours ago, RallyX said:

as well as my Protek rounded lipo, because both cables are near the center. 

This is good news as I use the Protek rounded battery. I was wondering about that, thank you! 

[pamarakos 9]

One more question

Can I use wheel axles from another kit (from what I ve searched xv-01 has longer axles options included???) so as to make it 190mm wide all around so as to fit a body shell?

Anyone having an xv-01 to measure the stock ones and the longer ones please?

 

I dont know if these have just longer thread which will be perfect or if the are longer before the pin hole too which will be an issue

[Honza 1180]

On 9/7/2024 at 9:13 PM, pamarakos said:

I dont know if these have just longer thread which will be perfect or if the are longer before the pin hole too which will be an issue

XV-01 has same thread, the axle is longer only before the pin. The long axle is used in rear hub carriers, that are derived from buggy, which is why they are different.

There are axles with longer threads from other manufacturers, like Square TGE-500A-1. However, I'm not sure if it's enough, since you need to increase width by 25mm - 12mm per side. Plus, with so much scrub, I'm not sure if the front wheels would clear the tub. Rears might be fine.

Edit: scrolling through the thread, I found @chris.alex's photo with standard TC wheels. They'll barely fit, but rally tires won't. With wider XV-02 arms, they could fit, since that moves the wheel away from the tub.

[pamarakos 9]

On 9/9/2024 at 11:39 AM, Honza said:

XV-01 has same thread, the axle is longer only before the pin. The long axle is used in rear hub carriers, that are derived from buggy, which is why they are different.

There are axles with longer threads from other manufacturers, like Square TGE-500A-1. However, I'm not sure if it's enough, since you need to increase width by 25mm - 12mm per side. Plus, with so much scrub, I'm not sure if the front wheels would clear the tub. Rears might be fine.

Edit: scrolling through the thread, I found @chris.alex's photo with standard TC wheels. They'll barely fit, but rally tires won't. With wider XV-02 arms, they could fit, since that moves the wheel away from the tub.

Hi

Do you think this tge axle will fit right in? It seems promising for a start, plus a thick hex with some little offset wheels.in the description it gives some part numbers that are not in xm01, for example cross joints and uprights.

[Honza 1180]

2 hours ago, pamarakos said:

 the description it gives some part numbers that are not in xm01, for example cross joints and uprights.

Ah, yes, I forgot that this axle is not compatible with clip secured cross joints, as it lacks groove for the clip - the ones in the description (#53500) use a set screw instead.

The XM-01 uses same wheel axle as TRF417, so it will be compatible. You don't need different uprights 

[pamarakos 9]

20 minutes ago, Honza said:

Ah, yes, I forgot that this axle is not compatible with clip secured cross joints, as it lacks groove for the clip - the ones in the description (#53500) use a set screw instead.

The XM-01 uses same wheel axle as TRF417, so it will be compatible. You don't need different uprights 

So what more do I need together with these axles?

Just the 53500 cross joint and I m set I guess:)

[PastTimeBuilder247 2]

I just finished building my XM01, but find the wheel axle shafts too short. If I run the 1mm spacer in the rear as suggested by Tamiya, the wheel nut will not thread up to the nylock portion. Has anyone else had this problem? 
 

Thank You!

[toyolien 6070]

6 hours ago, PastTimeBuilder247 said:

I just finished building my XM01, but find the wheel axle shafts too short. If I run the 1mm spacer in the rear as suggested by Tamiya, the wheel nut will not thread up to the nylock portion. Has anyone else had this problem? 
 

Thank You!

I'd use the optional Tamiya serrated nuts instead. They are thinner and don't have a nylon part. The serrated part stops them from undoing 👍

https://tamiya.com/english/products/42143/index.html

[PastTimeBuilder247 2]

Thanks! I’ll pick up a set of those for sure. Last thing I need is a wheel bouncing down the parking lot 😄

[pamarakos 9]

On 9/9/2024 at 11:39 AM, Honza said:

XV-01 has same thread, the axle is longer only before the pin. The long axle is used in rear hub carriers, that are derived from buggy, which is why they are different.

There are axles with longer threads from other manufacturers, like Square TGE-500A-1. However, I'm not sure if it's enough, since you need to increase width by 25mm - 12mm per side. Plus, with so much scrub, I'm not sure if the front wheels would clear the tub. Rears might be fine.

Edit: scrolling through the thread, I found @chris.alex's photo with standard TC wheels. They'll barely fit, but rally tires won't. With wider XV-02 arms, they could fit, since that moves the wheel away from the tub.

Can I fit these A15 both on one side so as to move the wheel a little more to the front tongain some space and use rally block tyres if I need to? Is there something wrong then?

[chris.alex 1517]

23 hours ago, pamarakos said:

Can I fit these A15 both on one side so as to move the wheel a little more to the front tongain some space and use rally block tyres if I need to? Is there something wrong then?

Yes, it's possible. I did it in order to use touring car wheels instead of m-chassi wheels. However, I think it isn't enough for the touring car rally block tyres. 

[Honza 1180]

You can always fit XV-02 front suspension to gain more space around the wheel.

[pamarakos 9]

Today we ve organized a little on road rally at a parking lot on a tight little stage. It was my first try with the xm, either at full high suspension height or at full low, with its stock wheels or touring radial wheels which fitted without messing with suspension and hex, behaviour was awful and tended to roll at every turn. Reduced EPA for steering no different result...maybe it s off-road oriented after all? Suspension was at 400cst, what was inside the kit.

Any proposals?

[chris.alex 1517]

10 hours ago, pamarakos said:

Today we ve organized a little on road rally at a parking lot on a tight little stage. It was my first try with the xm, either at full high suspension height or at full low, with its stock wheels or touring radial wheels which fitted without messing with suspension and hex, behaviour was awful and tended to roll at every turn. Reduced EPA for steering no different result...maybe it s off-road oriented after all? Suspension was at 400cst, what was inside the kit.

Any proposals?

To prevent the car from rolling over, you could set the dampers stiffer: More preloaded / harder springs, less travel, thicker oil.

[pamarakos 9]

2 minutes ago, chris.alex said:

To prevent the car from rolling over, you could set the dampers stiffer: More preloaded / harder springs, less travel, thicker oil.

It was supposed to be a rally setup, so even 400cst is thick already...same goes off-road ??? ...there is a set with springs coming in shortly, so I ll try the hard ones first to see if anything changes

[Honza 1180]

11 hours ago, pamarakos said:

Today we ve organized a little on road rally at a parking lot on a tight little stage. It was my first try with the xm, either at full high suspension height or at full low, with its stock wheels or touring radial wheels which fitted without messing with suspension and hex, behaviour was awful and tended to roll at every turn. Reduced EPA for steering no different result...maybe it s off-road oriented after all? Suspension was at 400cst, what was inside the kit.

Any proposals?

It's quite normal, it's a narrow M-chassis, with a slightly higher CG than standard, running high ride height settings.

M-chassis have to run low and stiff settings on high traction. Widening it up will help.

[pamarakos 9]

9 minutes ago, Honza said:

It's quite normal, it's a narrow M-chassis, with a slightly higher CG than standard, running high ride height settings.

M-chassis have to run low and stiff settings on high traction. Widening it up will help.

That s good to kniw..already planned it and waiting for the parts delivery

Thanks

I ll let you know how it goes

[Raman36 1749]

I finally test ran it XM-01 Pro.  I have an old Novak 17,5 in it with stock 70/22 gearing which I found an absolute bore to drive.  So I went to back to my table and put in a 70/28 gearing and added 15º timing on the Quickrun 10bl60.  Now it’s got some scoot. The streets here are concrete and the kit tyres have really good grip.  I didn’t get too crazy on turns with it.. don’t want to traction roll and scuff my lovely Fiat 131 body.  

Overall very happy with it, now the question is, do I blue bling it or not lol.  If Plaza Japan hadn't raised its prices, I probably would have already gone that route.