Tamiya Touring Cars

[skom25]

Hi,

I started to be more and more interested in Touring Cars.

I know that TT-02 is basic, entry level kit. Type S seems to be interesting and on bit different level than stock version. Then there is really expensive SRX.

I also found TC-01 chassis, which seems to not be very popular. Why?

TA-08 I believe is modern chassis with quite good price.

There is also XV-01 TC and XV-02 PRO.

On the Top, there are all TRF cars.

Now the main question:

If we exclude all versions of TT-02, which chassis is good "basher" with adjustable suspension? Something which can be run on parking and will not be damaged after few minutes.

[bRIBEGuy]

TC-01 is a great kit, but it's complex and unique... which in general are traits that societal masses stray away from.

TA08 is going to be a solid choice, and will be the most "touring car" in form and function.

XV01 is OLD.... XV02 is very nice.  But also more rally focused.

No reason to run the TRF cars for parking lot antics, but any of the others will be fine.  It's all a matter of what you are after.

[toyolien]

Sounds like you need the XV-02RS

https://www.tamiya.com/english/products/58726/index.html

 

[FuzzyFlynn]

If you exclude TT-02 variants (and I assume also TT-01) and you like rally cars, I would have a look at XV-01 (I would prefer the non-TC version) and XV-02RS for parking lots. They are proper mid-range chassis with full adjustability, are really nice even without further hop-ups and they have pebble-proof drive trains.

TA-08 would be the obvious touring car choice. But it has open belts and probably more important, open pinion and spur gear. You do not want to have small pebbles in between the gears. So whether that is an option depends on your parking lots and how clean or dirty they are, I guess.

TC-01 has a rather complex layout (tight space for electronics, rocker arms for dampers). This complexity is required to make the Formula E body work but completely unnecessary if you want to put a normal touring car shell on it. On the plus side for parking lots: Enclosed gears.

[Kowalski86]

Do you still have that XV-01 from your build thread? You could run that on a parking lot all day without doing any serious damage. The chassis covers keep pebbles/leafs from collecting in the tub too.

[turbofan]

XV-02RS is good value, but check also TT02SR as it's has many upgrades (hex, bearings, oil dumpers, adjustable links ect) and is significantly cheaper than XV-02RS

bashing (and rc in general) goes hand in hand with repairs and buying spare parts, so make sure what ever you choose to take in consideration easy access to cheep and in stock parts

[skom25]

30 minutes ago, Kowalski86 said:

Do you still have that XV-01 from your build thread? You could run that on a parking lot all day without doing any serious damage. The chassis covers keep pebbles/leafs from collecting in the tub too.

Just to be clear: I do not want to buy anything  I have not even run XV-01 and TT-02.

I just started to think what is available from Tamiya. 

[Sogogi]

2 hours ago, skom25 said:

Just to be clear: I do not want to buy anything  I have not even run XV-01 and TT-02.

I just started to think what is available from Tamiya. 

I personally think tt-01 is great for what it is… maybe you can try one out.

[Jonathon Gillham]

There is also the TB05, they released this in Pro and R spec. I would buy the Pro as it has adjustable motor position and is much cheaper. However when I needed a shaft drive pastic tub chassis the R was the only on available and its a fantastic kit.

For parking lots don't rule out the older TB and TA cars (except the TA06, that was awful by all accounts)

[Superluminal]

Good old TA02 would be my choice

[Nick-W]

12 hours ago, skom25 said:

Just to be clear: I do not want to buy anything  I have not even run XV-01 and TT-02.

Nobody here wants to buy something, it’s just the inescapable position we find ourselves in! 

[Honza]

17 hours ago, skom25 said:

If we exclude all versions of TT-02, which chassis is good "basher" with adjustable suspension? Something which can be run on parking and will not be damaged after few minutes.

TB-series were great for that. Combination of fully enclosed transmission with fully adjustable suspension and good materials.

Unfortunately they are not made anymore. It's been replaced by other three shaft-driven models, neither of which fully replaces it. TT-02 lacks the quality materials, TC-01 is too complex and heavy (though, its suspension apparently provides enough travel to run as a rally car) and XV-02 has higher CG and rally-optimised suspension, which isn't the best choice for high traction runs.

[FuzzyFlynn]

2 hours ago, Honza said:

TB-series were great for that. Combination of fully enclosed transmission with fully adjustable suspension and good materials.

I would love to see a TB-06!

[Honza]

28 minutes ago, FuzzyFlynn said:

I would love to see a TB-06!

I'd be happy with a re-release of TB-03 with gear differentials and TRF420 suspension 😃

[FuzzyFlynn]

15 minutes ago, Honza said:

I'd be happy with a re-release of TB-03 with gear differentials and TRF420 suspension 😃

I'd take it even with the old reversible suspension but I would hate that I would have to cut away a part of my servo. 🙂

[technics]

I’m very impressed by the xv-02 / RS. For cheapest route, a TT. But the quality of plastics and what you get in the box the XV02s are great in my opinion. 

[Kowalski86]

5 hours ago, Superluminal said:

Good old TA02 would be my choice

I can vouch for that

 

[Nicadraus]

22 hours ago, skom25 said:

If we exclude all versions of TT-02, which chassis is good "basher" with adjustable suspension? Something which can be run on parking and will not be damaged after few minutes.

My choices would be: XV-01/02, TA-04/05/06/07, TB-03/04/05. All of which still have ample supply of parts and are interchangeable. Have fully adjustable suspension, steering, droop, gears, and diffs. All are available in tub chassis too which is a good choice for street/parking lot basher rather than full CF chassis.

[Superluminal]

7 hours ago, Kowalski86 said:

I can vouch for that

 

The more I think about this the more I realise what a great street rc chassis it is.

As a touring car you can adjust its wheelbase, track width, put adjustable arms on it cheaply, lots of bodies to choose from.

Loads of spares available. 

FRP / carbon chassis plates if you want.

Comes with CVAs

Diffs quickly pop in and out - just pop off the shocks, dog bones out - remove access hatch and a gear diff or ball diff will drop in without having to separate gearboxes. Easy to maintain everything else.

Lots of space for electronics.

Raise the ride height - its a rally car.

Take out shock spacers, 50mm springs, bigger wheels and its a truck.

And if you get really bored, a few quid later and turn it in to a "Sort of Top Force".

Admittedly it will be outclassed on a track by many of the later chassis types but none of the others are as adaptable.

[Kowalski86]

1 hour ago, Superluminal said:

Comes with CVAs

Diffs quickly pop in and out - just pop off the shocks, dog bones out - remove access hatch and a gear diff or ball diff will drop in without having to separate gearboxes. Easy to maintain everything else.

I like it because it's easy to work on (vs an XV01), yet unlike the TT cars it has metal dogbones, a better suspension arm setup (vs plastic pivoting in plastic), and CVAs from the word "go".

My biggest annoyances are the terrible steering (not unlike a stock TT02, step screws and plastic, it gets sloppy with use), and the ridiculously high stock FDR.

The stock FDR is good for off-roading and bigger wheels/tires, it's not so great for on-road use, no surprise since the TA02 was essentially made from a buggy.

[Elbowloh]

On 3/19/2024 at 1:09 PM, Nicadraus said:

My choices would be: XV-01/02, TA-04/05/06/07, TB-03/04/05. All of which still have ample supply of parts and are interchangeable. Have fully adjustable suspension, steering, droop, gears, and diffs. All are available in tub chassis too which is a good choice for street/parking lot basher rather than full CF chassis.

With the TB04 pro which is on the way, i'll have a TA05 V2 and a TB Evo 6 MS, all of which share parts. 

[@JoeyE]

Only have two left, TRF414 and TA05V2

[svenb]

I only have touring cars, 35 of them .

Nothing front wheel drive 😉

[Wystan Withers]

If you're not into modifying tubs, keep in mind that older chassis designs won't accept modern lipo's without some massaging. Not that big a deal overall, but worth thinking about if you're already invested in batteries which aren't a direct fit. That said, something like a TB03 that someone has already invested in a bunch of money in hops can deliver excellent value for your dollar.