Super Champ steering on a Sand Scorcher

[Grumpy pants]

I want to replace my SS set up with SC parts.

I have the 3 steering rods, which other parts are required?

SC servo saver set? 

SC servo saver & spring?

Anything else? 

Do these parts parts just swap like for like using the SS body post? 
 

Thank you! 

[Mouc-RC]

Hello,

You'll need the nut to load/pre-load the spring. Also you may have to modify the body-mount made of aluminum... Overall length and diameter are probably quite different. Do you have the Super Champ servo-mounts already? They differ from the Scorcher.

Some pictures if it can help.

Also, I know you didn't ask for it but... In my opinion, the Super Champ steering setup is no better than the Scorcher's one. To have mine working correctly, I had to modify it quite a bit. For a Scorcher, I think it is easier/more efficient to make a direct steering system, by the way. Please let me know if you'd like some pictures/explanations of what I did

[Grumpy pants]

@Mouc-RC, thanks for the reply, really helpful.

At the moment I’ve got just the 3 rods, interesting to read it’s not an improvement though. 

 
I’d be grateful for some pictures and an explanation of what you’ve done as well please 👍

[Mouc-RC]

Hello!

On my Fighting Buggy, here's what I've done:

- small servo, a bit inclined (if you don't incline a bit, you have some collisions between a full-size servo and the steering mechanism - yes, it is that bad)

- M3 steering rods + M3 ball ends (OG small ball ends pop-out often otherwise)

- elongated final drive horn on the save-servo, to have a real steering angle (made a small plate that moves backwards the ball ends)

To be done: move the pivot point backwards about 4mm (the small servo will help for this point): the steering is still asymmetrical, because the upper save-servo horn hits the aluminum bar when the rod is pushed forward (hence the notch in the bar - yes, it is that bad...)

Works not bad, keeps the original spirit, but that's a lot of modifications. I'd say that the only good point on the SC/Fighting Buggy steering is the save-servo, more precise that on a Scorcher one)

 

On my Brother's Scorcher, here's what I've done (following an idea seen on TamiyaClub by the way):

 

Small "home-made" plate that mounts directly in the radio-box and accepts a full-size servo. And then I used the original hardware to make the steering work in a simple way. A bit more sloppy than the solution above with a save-servo (because the radio-box is mounted on some rubber mounts), but honestly quite good enough for an SRB, I'd say

To be done on my brother's Scorcher, change ball-ends to 5mm/M3 diameter ones (sick & tired that they pop-out quite often).

 

 

 

[Grumpy pants]

Thank you, very much appreciated @Mouc-RC 👍

[KEV THE REV]

Many years ago I designed a special front post to mount the SC saver to the SS chassis and vorrect height to mount the body which still allowed the adjuster nut to be adjusted . The stock SS post fouled the nut . Sadly I don't have any of the posts now . I think I still have a pic in my showroom .