47381 Super Astute (due December)

[Twinfan 1796]

40 minutes ago, Wandy said:

What I mean is they should have released the original Astute, using this Super Astute chassis but with the OG decals, wheels, tyres and yellow CVAs. That would satisfy all but the most hardcore purists IMO.

That's not an Astute though is it, it's a Super Astute with different cosmetics.  Surely Tamiya fans wouldn't be happy with that?  I know I wouldn't if I wanted an Astute.

I'm personally really happy to see the Super Astute come back as it shows again that Tamiya aren't adverse to doing another batch of a re-re.  After the Grasshopper Candy Green, Top Force and now the Super Astute, the other big one from 2017/2018 was the BigWig so I'm REALLY hoping it's just a matter of time until that gets another run...

[Wandy 1555]

6 hours ago, Twinfan said:

That's not an Astute though is it, it's a Super Astute with different cosmetics.  Surely Tamiya fans wouldn't be happy with that?  I know I wouldn't if I wanted an Astute.

I'm personally really happy to see the Super Astute come back as it shows again that Tamiya aren't adverse to doing another batch of a re-re.  After the Grasshopper Candy Green, Top Force and now the Super Astute, the other big one from 2017/2018 was the BigWig so I'm REALLY hoping it's just a matter of time until that gets another run...

If the choice is between a Super Astute chassis, “retrograded” with standard Astute cosmetics such as decals, wheels, tyres, shocks….or no standard Astute in any form whatsoever, then I think most would be pretty happy just to see the former option. It’s not perfect but a lot better than nothing at all.

[Saito2 7237]

I am curious about the price this time around. Last time they were $275-$300 USD which seemed pricey to me personally. I got one for the shelf. While I loved the Astute development history lesson it provided, the short front-end travel, low profile servo requirement and quite flexible monoplate chassis (not to mention bushings for the front wheels?) put me off trying to run it. I think I've worked out some chassis tricks since then to avoid dumping more money into a graphite chassis. We'll see. Sometimes the prices drop as was the case for the latest Novafox re-re here in the States. Of course considering the obscene prices the latest RC10 re-re went for, maybe 275-300 ain't bad for a Super Astute. Those numbered holofoil stickers must be expensive, lol.

[scoobybooster 280]

12 hours ago, Wandy said:

If the choice is between a Super Astute chassis, “retrograded” with standard Astute cosmetics such as decals, wheels, tyres, shocks….or no standard Astute in any form whatsoever, then I think most would be pretty happy just to see the former option. It’s not perfect but a lot better than nothing at all.

Guys, stop complaining, we got the Astute a long time ago, remember?
Ok, admittedly it differs slightly from the original, but you shouldn't take that too seriously

Edit: Think i should add a smilie here, stating clearly as a joke  

[Howards 586]

22 hours ago, Wandy said:

Why oh why couldn't they have just released the original Astute instead of this one again

Because it's so weak you literally can't run it. 

Looks good on the shelf though, I guess.

edit: dressing up a Super Astute to be an Astute is possible today. Guess they could release a body / conversion set with it, like they did with the Egress / Avante 2001 but the collectors amassed the value from that, not Tamiya themselves.

[markturbo 206]

I built my last rere Super Astute as an Astute. Collected parts to convert to yellow CVAs and decals from MCI

 

 

[GToddC5 1574]

8 minutes ago, markturbo said:

I built my last rere Super Astute as an Astute. Collected parts to convert to yellow CVAs and decals from MCI

Read my mind!

[hamtaro 101]

14 hours ago, scoobybooster said:

 

Edit: Think i should add a smilie here, stating clearly as a joke  

It really doesn't look good in that side on profile does it.  Anyone for an astute 2022 rere in 10 years time or super avante rere🤣 

[BuggyDad 5310]

1 hour ago, markturbo said:

I built my last rere Super Astute as an Astute. Collected parts to convert to yellow CVAs and decals from MCI

Nice!

I've got one of these in my future too. Kinda. If you squint a bit. Same stickers though... My plan has been to make an "Astute-alike" - box art red Penguin Astute body, home cut to Super Astute pattern carbon parts, BBX gearbox, Astute repro arms, homemade or aftermarket bulkheads and other bits n bobs including some of my own design. The aim being to make a runner to Astute geometry that can be reproduced without any rare or limited edition parts. So it could have no real Astute parts at all yet end up looking and driving really quite similarly. I was going to model it off my Madcap but now this is being rereleased I can get the real deal and model it off that. December would probably only delay me a month or two. 

[Wandy 1555]

11 hours ago, markturbo said:

I built my last rere Super Astute as an Astute. Collected parts to convert to yellow CVAs and decals from MCI

 

 

Nice. I've got an OG Astute body set, wheels and tyres so will probs buy another Super Astute and do the same. Are the CVA shock parts easy to find? Those front springs look unique to the Astute, rather than generic CVA ones.

[Twinfan 1796]

33 minutes ago, Wandy said:

Are the CVA shock parts easy to find? Those front springs look unique to the Astute, rather than generic CVA ones.

According to the Super Astute re-re manual, the front kit springs are the same as those on the rear of the Terra Scorcher/Thunder Dragon/Fire Dragon etc.  Rear kit springs seem to be unique to the Super Astute.

For the CVA parts, the Astute used CVA Mini and CVA Short shocks - the same as the Terra Scorcher/Fire Dragon etc.  So dead easy to get hold of.

[Wandy 1555]

45 minutes ago, Twinfan said:

According to the Super Astute re-re manual, the front kit springs are the same as those on the rear of the Terra Scorcher/Thunder Dragon/Fire Dragon etc.  Rear kit springs seem to be unique to the Super Astute.

For the CVA parts, the Astute used CVA Mini and CVA Short shocks - the same as the Terra Scorcher/Fire Dragon etc.  So dead easy to get hold of.

Cheers for that info 

[Twinfan 1796]

No worries!

[Blista 1545]

I'd like to buy one this time around.  I'm not going to trap myself with thinking "what if it breaks?" and buy two.  If something happens and I can't find spares, it'll have to sit for however many years for another re-release.

This news was perfect timing.  I've been looking at a Top Force/Manta Ray or a TD chassis.  The Super Astute is so much better looking than any of them.

[Twinfan 1796]

Available for pre-order now here in the UK around the £235 mark.  That's better than I was expecting!  

That'll screw up the scalpers who recently have been looking for £400+ for a NIB kit...

[Howards 586]

Yeah, £235 is painful but not terrible for this kind of thing. 

[Sgt.Speirs 1312]

22 hours ago, BuggyDad said:

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My plan has been to make an "Astute-alike" - box art red Penguin Astute body, home cut to Super Astute pattern carbon parts, BBX gearbox, Astute repro arms, homemade or aftermarket bulkheads and other bits n bobs including some of my own design. The aim being to make a runner to Astute geometry that can be reproduced without any rare or limited edition parts. So it could have no real Astute parts at all yet end up looking and driving really quite similarly.
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Similar here…but I will buy some spare parts (bulkhead, suspension arms, body+undertray, gearbox guard), put in my TRF201 gearbox and then I have no concerns to drive with it in a „normal“ way as I can build it back to a shelf queen.
In the worst case scenario, I have to wait 6 years for the next re-release run 😜

I think you have to run the car quickly after re-release that you know which parts breaks first depending on your drive style/skills. And these parts you have to source sufficiently 😊

[BuggyDad 5310]

52 minutes ago, Sgt.Speirs said:

Similar here…but I will buy some spare parts (bulkhead, suspension arms, body+undertray, gearbox guard), put in my TRF201 gearbox and then I have no concerns to drive with it in a „normal“ way as I can build it back to a shelf queen.
In the worst case scenario, I have to wait 6 years for the next re-release run 😜

I think you have to run the car quickly after re-release that you know which parts breaks first depending on your drive style/skills. And these parts you have to source sufficiently 😊

Yeah for me part of the joy/point of my little projects is to create something that's kind of mine, in this case the rationale being that while I don't really want to change this car, I do want to avoid breaking rare things or feeling like I can't risk breaks, and I do like a project like this. A weak rationale perhaps, especially now scarcity is (temporarily perhaps) about to ease, but RC me doesn't really need reasons. 

[Juls1 1716]

Its about time, these things sold out quickly last time they re released them. And parts dried up in a instant too. I’ll be buying 2 most likely. 

[TamiyaD 210]

I am just wondering how does the Super Astute compares to the Dyna storm in terms of running. 

And what are the chances for a re-re Dyna Storm and / or Dyna Blaster?

[Twinfan 1796]

Can't help with regards to running, but my opinion on re-res (total guesswork) is that we'll see another batch of the Bigwig next year as Tamiya of late seem to be doing further batches of buggies they've re-re'd before e.g. Top Force, Thundershot, Super Astute, Avante, Egress etc.

With that in mind, and with Tamiya's 50th anniversary approaching, I think they may crack open the moulds and do another batch of Dyna Storms to celebrate 25 years since the original re-release.  Wishful thinking on my part maybe, as I want one for my collection, but I think it would make sense.  Look at what Kyosho did for their recent anniversary, Tamiya will not want to look second best.

EDIT: Checking Tamiyabase, it also looks like the Dyna Storm was the first buggy to be re-re'd, if not the first Tamiya re-re?  If so, then 25 years since that was done and 50 years of the company might be another reason to bring it back.....

[naturbo2000 1349]

I'll be getting one.  The Super Madtute needs some spares!

[JatoTheRipper 94]

The Super Astute #47381 is listed on the Tamiya USA website: https://www.tamiyausa.com/shop/-road-buggies/rc-super-astute-2018/

It shows as "Coming Soon" and "Feb" in the preview photo for this listing.

[Hobbimaster 200]

February for the states? Looks like Tamico, or RCmart will be getting my business then.

[JatoTheRipper 94]

53 minutes ago, Hobbimaster said:

February for the states? Looks like Tamico, or RCmart will be getting my business then.

Won't the shipping cost really kill that deal?