47381 Super Astute (due December)

[Twinfan 2308]

1 hour ago, ruebiracer said:

I switched now on my RERE slipper to 48dp for more choices of gearing. Got 6,48:1 now using a Tamiya 48dp pinion with 24t and a spur from TRF201/DN01 with 77t.

Am I missing something - the 47381 Super Astute manual says gear ratio is spur / pinion * 2.59, so 77 / 24 * 2.59 = 8.31:1?

[Collin 2127]

1 hour ago, ruebiracer said:

I switched now on my RERE slipper to 48dp for more choices of gearing. Got 6,48:1 now using a Tamiya 48dp pinion with 24t and a spur from TRF201/DN01 with 77t. You also need the newer, white clutch pads, because the kit ones have a slightly different shape from DF03 spur gears. So these won´t fit the later TRF201 shape in the spur gears. Only mod is to ream out the hole in the spur from the inch diameter of the 201 out to 5mm with a stepdrill. It is not much to drill out.

TRF201 gives the latest design of the clutch pads:

assembly as before:

left over parts:

 

This pads are very easy to cut down with scissor. Btw Yokomo ones do fit as well and are told to be the "best" quality material.

[ruebiracer 1316]

5 hours ago, Twinfan said:

Am I missing something - the 47381 Super Astute manual says gear ratio is spur / pinion * 2.59, so 77 / 24 * 2.59 = 8.31:1?

Thanks @Twinfan, this is absolutely correct! In my hurry I jumped into the wrong excel table whith a different internal ratio. In the rerelease manual the formula for the gear ratios is displayed. 

[Sgt.Speirs 1580]

I finished my build today... finished for now, at least until the outdoor season starts.

[Kol__ 3927]

1 hour ago, Sgt.Speirs said:

I finished my build today... finished for now, at least until the outdoor season starts.

Gorgeous mate! Just look at that blingy, vintage motor in the back too!

My kit arrived today🙂

[GToddC5 2552]

Current state of the fAuxStute build - gone old school:

 

 

[Kol__ 3927]

2 hours ago, GToddC5 said:

Current state of the fAuxStute build - gone old school:

 

 

Stunning and I...

[Collin 2127]

Picked up my kit today. I have to mention, this is the VERY FIRST Tamiya kit I ever bought in my entire life : )
The first and only NIB kit ever bevor was the TR-15T which I got on my 12th birthday.

Quiet funny somehow, I should reenact a photo with surpriced face with the kit in my hand just for later in a few years.

One thing I mentioned at first whe I was looking at the box, 1150 gearings for drivetrain not included. Oh dear, why is this necessary ?!

[Superluminal 4063]

Its only for the front wheels you will need additional bearings, the gearbox is fully ballraced and the metal bushings in the suspension arms and steering are more than adequate given their limited rotation.

[GToddC5 2552]

8 minutes ago, Superluminal said:

Its only for the front wheels you will need additional bearings, the gearbox is fully ballraced and the metal bushings in the suspension arms and steering are more than adequate given their limited rotation.

Yes, I left the metal bushings alone for what you mentioned. I only needed half of all the bearings included in the JazRider bearing kit, because they don't take into account what's already included in the model kit. Of course I find this out after buying two bearing kits for two models, LOL

Oh well, can't hurt to have spares.

[Collin 2127]

It was more like a question to Tamiya to put this four ballbearings and thats fine. Nevermind. 

[Addicted 506]

My kits is due from TTP Models tomorrow - very excited to build it!

Had the OG Astute and Super Astute and let them go a long long time ago and regretted it ever since :-(

[tamiya_star 87]

I've just picked one up from TMC

https://www.themodelcentre.com/ta47381

£233.00 with free delivery I thought that seemed decent   

[Quandry 382]

Just built my Super Astute and next step is paint work.   Going for a light gun metal just to have a different look.

Enjoyed building the kit but Dynastorm is still my favourite.  Hopefully Tamiya give us a Dynastorm ReRe one day so I can  top  up my collection 😅

[Twinfan 2308]

19 minutes ago, Quandry said:

Enjoyed building the kit but Dynastorm is still my favourite.  Hopefully Tamiya give us a Dynastorm ReRe one day so I can  top  up my collection 😅

That's the only kit left for me that I really, really, really want Tamiya to re-re....

[Kol__ 3927]

54 minutes ago, Twinfan said:

That's the only kit left for me that I really, really, really want Tamiya to re-re....

I think they will, maybe this year, hopefully! Would be awesome, even if it's just an opportunity to get an og Tamiya shell in the thicker, modern polycarbonate

[Misterp180 342]

5 hours ago, Kol__ said:

I think they will, maybe this year, hopefully! Would be awesome, even if it's just an opportunity to get an og Tamiya shell in the thicker, modern polycarbonate

I think it is happening this year @Kol__ 

We all want it and Tamiya know they will sell a shed load of them again!!

[Kol__ 3927]

1 hour ago, Misterp180 said:

I think it is happening this year @Kol__ 

We all want it and Tamiya know they will sell a shed load of them again!!

What do we think the price would be? Given the £240ish price of the Super Asute, a sub-£400 for the Dyna Storm would be amazing, but I think something more around the £450-500 could be expected, but then that's sort of 4WD Avante Black/Egress Black territory, so how could they justify the expense.

[Twinfan 2308]

59 minutes ago, Kol__ said:

What do we think the price would be? Given the £240ish price of the Super Asute, a sub-£400 for the Dyna Storm would be amazing, but I think something more around the £450-500 could be expected, but then that's sort of 4WD Avante Black/Egress Black territory, so how could they justify the expense.

I think it would be a £400+ kit, especially if they include a pink GT-Tuned motor......

[Kol__ 3927]

Ah yes, forgot about the motor @Twinfan. That would certainly bump the price up. Yeah I think £450ish is more likely tbh.

Other than the motor though, and given the similar alloy shocks, it's probably nearly about on a par with the Top Force EVO and that was £350.

And regarding all the pink motor shenanigans, nothing other than the original design of the Acto power pink is worthy of going in the car imo!😁

[Twinfan 2308]

Only two wheel drive though, and FRP not carbon fibre, but an upgraded motor.  I would guess it would come with Hi-Caps too rather than sleeved dampers.

My guess?  Comparing it to a Top Force (non-Evo) plus Hi-Caps and a motor would make it around £350ish, but I think it would command a premium, so I'd say a street price of £399 here in the UK if it ever comes in the near future.

But will it?

[Misterp180 342]

@Twinfan I think that is some sound logic. I was thinking it would be close to the Top Force Evo in terms of pricing but I had not considered the pink motor. £399 RRP with some places offering it at £369 is where I feel it will be. Going to be a great kit if it comes for those of us dreaming of one. Wonder if there is anywhere that still has the original Rere priced on their website.... I am off to check.

Great question @Kol__

[Twinfan 2308]

3 minutes ago, Misterp180 said:

Wonder if there is anywhere that still has the original Rere priced on their website.... I am off to check.

Good luck finding a still active webpage from 2001, @Misterp180 !

[tamiya_star 87]

Original prices if this helps as a guide

58097 Super Astute (21000 yen) 1991 (RRP today £299.99)

58100 Top Force (21000 yen) 1991 (RRP today £289.99)

58107 Top Force Evolution (38000 yen) 1992 (RRP today £450.00)

58116 Dyna Storm (30000 yen) 1992 (RRP today £390.00 estimated)

 

[Twinfan 2308]

Any whispers on the Tamiya grapevine, @tamiya_star?