Bad Facebook advice

[acprc 1475]

Folks, I have had two complaints about this thread already. Please play nice.

[ABigChungus 70]

Not related to the advice situation, but still involving Tamiya and social media. Does it ever annoy anyone when someone puts on their local communities page a little rant about something or someone they've had a negative experience with? Almost like a call out to see if anyone else agrees with them, yet the poster never said or did anything in person? 

I mention this because twice now this has happened to me, but with both positive and negative publicity! The first time was when I was driving my ClodBuster around and a Mother and child stopped to watch. They were there for a few minutes then walked off. I then saw on my villages Facebook page that the Mother had put a message on there, saying "whoever the man was driving his monster truck around, thank you very much, my son loved it!" I thought why didn't you say that to me in person, I don't bite! If I'd have known he was loving it I would have offered him a go!

Then on the negative side, one day I was driving my BigWig around in a parking area. A nice open parking area, on a dead end road where you can easily see cars coming. A man walked past, stopped and watched, then carried on. I thought nothing of it. Later I see on the Facebook page "Whoever that guy is with the toy car, tell him parking areas are for real cars, not toys. He was throwing up gravel and dirt everywhere. No respect". Yet he never came up to me to confront me! He never gave an indication that he was annoyed! Things like that just annoy me these days about social media.

[Wooders28 4874]

11 hours ago, ABigChungus said:

I've not seen that yet to be honest.

I'm admin on a few RC pages, and there's quite a bit of, just wrong info ,that gets posted (and removed, if one of us see it...)

Recently , both pinion related right enough...

On a DF03 page, someone saying to use 48dp pinions , as that's what Modelsport have in their options, which is wrong, the DF03 is 05 mod, and 48dp (05mod =50.8dp) will just chew the spur (Do I message Modelsport ,as it is what they have listed? 🤔) 

On a DT03 page, saying they use 06mod , when they actually use 08mod (or 32dp at a push, that gets a reaction usually, as although 32dp isn't correct, it works...💣) 

 

12 hours ago, ParticularSky said:

If facebook provides no value to you, delete it keep walking. Dunno what's your point, wasting your time browsing content you obviously dont wanna see. Rather unproductive low hanging fruit.

Shouldn't need to, but you need a bit of a thick skin to survive (?) on Facebook these days.

It just used to be pictures of people dinners, which was fine, but now (as with the recent English riots ), tensions can get out of hand very quickly, with just false information about pinions being the least of the worries!! 

You need a sprinkling of distrust (?) , ie, if someone tells you it's raining out, don't just put your wellies and raincoat on, check the window and the weather forecast (although, if you're in Scotland, it's usually a given anyway 🙄🤣) 

[JimBear 870]

"Bad Facebook advice" - that sounds like a title for a blues song: "I got'em bad, baaad, them bad Facebook advice this morning ..."

[Saito2 7354]

12 hours ago, Kowalski86 said:

It's like people don't have real hobbies or something...

While this may be straying from the original topic, social media seems to be yet another thing that is replacing hobbies. Hobbies for people are vitally important in my eyes (just my opinion, mind you) because they reflect who we are as people. Its what we do when its our time, not our boss's time at work, not chore time at home, but our time. Unfortunately, since the advent of amusement, it has been a distraction, devoid of much thought input (you know, to muse upon a subject). As time passes, amusement seems to be geared more to towards removing any effort of thought. Is reading a book or watching a movie considered amusement? I'm not so sure. You can meditate on what you've read or seen. They are both art. Scrolling through Facebook? eh. Even when following a group based on specific interest, it seems impossible to retrieve information posted even hours ago unlike the archival nature of forums that can be dug into a researched. Social media seems more "wow, look at this!" and then seconds later "no, wow! look at this!" and so on and so on, rather than lets have deep discussion on subjects. This is what I've witnessed when others have tried to show me things on Facetube so I can hardly be considered an expert on the subject.

Tiktok is even worse. Now you don't have to even read. Look at the funny video and giggle at the silly thing please. Ok, here's another and another...sssh sssh, don't think, just watch....there's a good little viewer. Even informational Tiktoks shoved in front of my face have been so rife with questionable data, that I'd have to break it down carefully and research each statement for validity that its an utter waste of time. Nobody does that either. They just take it as truth (or sometimes not) and move on. I have to go yell at clouds now. Sorry for the tangent.

[Kowalski86 4081]

I find most "buy once cry once" advice to be quite poor. Sure, I'll go buy an expensive Tekno kit, LiPOs, a super geeky brushless setup, and a Reefs servo. 

So...where do I run it? The grueling parking lots at the mall? The road in front of my house? Do I destroy my $50+ bodyshell at the skate park?

 

2 hours ago, Saito2 said:

Social media seems more "wow, look at this!" and then seconds later "no, wow! look at this!" and so on and so on, rather than lets have deep discussion on subjects. This is what I've witnessed when others have tried to show me things on Facetube so I can hardly be considered an expert on the subject.

Thats par for the course unfortunately, sometimes I have a difficult time really diving into a topic with others in my age group (20-30). It's just one thing to the next.

[GTodd 1563]

Unfortunately "it" is everywhere to include here.  If you take what the Internet says including here: the Astute was complete garbage that broke the second you drove it and grenades it's differential before the first battery pack was done, the kingcab smokes its diff in one run, the Avante bent all of its suspension in one battery the falcon broke during assembly etc etc.  

Take everything you read with a grain of salt, use as basic guidance, and learn from you're own experience.

[alvinlwh 7078]

5 hours ago, Kowalski86 said:

I find most "buy once cry once" advice to be quite poor.

This type of advice usually comes from racers. And you can always tell who is a racer. How? They will tell you they are the racer. In fact they always start the conversation with "At my race club...", "When I race..." or "On my race cars..." as if to place more weight to their words. Unfortunately, complete newbies falls easily for these.

[Kowalski86 4081]

3 minutes ago, alvinlwh said:

This type of advice usually comes from racers.

I can only guess they've been sniffing tire sauce a bit too much!

[ad456 462]

I’m mixed on this 

20 hours ago, Kowalski86 said:

"buy once cry once"

This is something I say but I’d use it to compare buying a Hobbywing brushless combo over a GoolRC or similar cheapo. The Hobbywing will be a bigger outlay but is likely to work better and have some resale value too. Same goes for just about any aspect of RC, servos, kits, parts.
There are times it doesn’t apply, plenty of decent Tx/Rx that don’t cost the earth and have cracking features 

[Sogogi 3359]

I've went through this thread and made me think for a bit.
It is not easy, but I've learned to ignore things (some folks may say `No (bad word) given`).
Also It is my money, I can take suggestions but you don't get to force my judgement.
 

[Kowalski86 4081]

6 hours ago, ad456 said:

I’m mixed on this 

This is something I say but I’d use it to compare buying a Hobbywing brushless combo over a GoolRC or similar cheapo.

That's understandable, I'd go as far as to watch out for those things in used RCs, unless if they're really cheap.

I'd rather have a brushed setup and a cheap Futaba servo, over a no-name servo that doesn't center correctly and a brushless setup that cogs.

[Kowalski86 4081]

Some other experience I'd like to share, from someone who buys used stuff way too much.

It's common advice to buy a used "race grade", vs tossing upgrades at a "basher". Sure, if I'm racing it would probably do better to buy a previous generation AE/Losi thing.

But 90% of the time that I've gone down the "Buy a used race grade" route, I end up with a dead end platform without much aftermarket or replacement parts.

Also, buying used, dirty, worn out, beat up "rollers" is only a good idea if there's a ton of spare parts, or if it's maybe $50 at most. The costs of replacement parts can add up FAST.

[ad456 462]

Yeah, a lot of sense there @Kowalski86. Cheap strong servo that doesn’t centre or is abysmally slow is something I’ve seen a few complaints about and old race cars are a very mixed bag, some are really worth buying and plenty others go the way of a money pit or complete unusable. 

[Wooders28 4874]

On 8/18/2024 at 1:43 PM, ad456 said:

I’d use it to compare buying a Hobbywing brushless combo over a GoolRC

This is where Facebook kind of worked in my favour.

The Goolrc combos seem to run in batches, batch of bad motors, batch of bad escs, (who'd have thought, something that cheap, had low/no quality control!?!?) all of which seem to be well publicised by grumpy RCrs on Facebook. But, every now and then, there's the sweet spot, where the motor and esc work, when there's a lull of complaints across the RC pages, then I buy one, and so far, they've been great! (Very underpowered compared to a Hobbywing, but for £40 🤷‍♂️).

Saying that, I want to try the new 10bl120 G2 , with boost & Turbo, that could be a game changer for the price..

 

3 hours ago, Kowalski86 said:

But 90% of the time that I've gone down the "Buy a used race grade" route, I end up with a dead end platform without much aftermarket or replacement parts.

Anything older than maybe 5yrs+ old, and you start to struggle at local modelshops, as stock gets sold off cheaper, once demand starts to tail off, when a new model is released, as they don't want money tied up, sat on a shelf. Although Schumacher have a pretty good spares back up for older cars, I'm still getting spares for my K1, and that's over 10yrs old now. 

There isn't much call for aftermarket on race cars, as the stock parts are better than most aftermarket parts anyway.

As the end of the outdoor is coming to an end in the UK (last BRCA National was at the weekend, and what an A final 4wd that was! 👌🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿) , there'll probably be a few cars coming up for sale, that'll have a bit of slop, and probably need a rebuild with full bearings, but still good value.

 

4 hours ago, Kowalski86 said:

Also, buying used, dirty, worn out, beat up "rollers" is only a good idea if there's a ton of spare parts, or if it's maybe $50 at most. The costs of replacement parts can add up FAST.

I bought a new DT03, and upgraded the front bulkhead, arms, added turnbuckles, shocks, (shock towers on the list..), servo holder, motor, esc, servo horn, hubs, wheels /tyres plus outdrives plus driveshafts, and wondering if buying a cheap worn out roller would have been better option! 🫣🤣🤣

[ad456 462]

5 minutes ago, Wooders28 said:

Anything older than maybe 5yrs+ old, and you start to struggle at local modelshops, as stock gets sold off cheaper, once demand starts to tail off, when a new model is released, as they don't want money tied up, sat on a shelf.

I find many race roots manufacturers are like this too which puts me off when they release non race models as I just can’t find the trust that I’ll get parts down the road, something which Tamiya, given their many oddities, are a brand I still have reasonable confidence in buying despite sometimes needing £XX pumped into a new model to fix what likely shouldn’t have been there in the first place.
 

Anyway, we probably should get back to slagging off Facebook muppets I guess 

[Kowalski86 4081]

In a rather ironic twist, I tried to make an account on Facebook just to contact someone on marketplace.

My account was suspended, for having a clay penguin as my avatar. I'll take that as a sign that it should remain suspended.

[alvinlwh 7078]

5 minutes ago, Kowalski86 said:

My account was suspended, for having a clay penguin as my avatar. I'll take that as a sign that it should remain suspended.

Facebook is know to randomly suspended accounts for little to no reason.