Nuremberg Toy Fair 2025

[Wheel_Nut 419]

11 hours ago, skom25 said:

I think it is best and at the same time the worst about DT-04.

If you are Tamiya fan, probably it is nice to see something like this. If you are RC fan, there are other, more interesting options than "funny" looking kit with bushings.

I think there are more RC fans, than Tamiya fans. I am really surprised, because cheap, entry Buggy is always a good idea, especially that DT series is really good. However, because they decided to make it "funny", I have feeling that a lot less people will be interested to buy it. If it would be "standard" Buggy, I would be first person to buy it, because I really like DT series. 

 

I see your point and I think there is truth to it.  However it seems you are criticising Tamiya based on a lot of personal preference.  The DT-04 seems intended as an introductory buggy.  It is not intended to be equivalent to Astute or Dynastorm.   I think it is well suited for it’s purpose.  It is likely a superior design to many classic Tamiya buggies from the 80s and 90s. Better suspension, steering, gearbox, chassis layout, etc.

There are a lot of mid range cars from other manufacturers like Kyosho and Traxxas using better quality materials in their mid range models.  I’m not even sure Tamiya is so keen to compete directly with them these days.  Tamiya’s main strength is their plastic moulding factories, so they are trying to leverage this as much as possible.

[Pylon80 4231]

11 hours ago, skom25 said:

kit with bushings.

I wonder if people in Japan are happily using the bushings today, while the rest of the world puts on gloves before touching them to toss them in the garbage. In the 90's bearings existed but would cost hundreds of dollars for one car. Today we have cheaper than dirt, and, very good quality bearings. Then perhaps Tamiya is reluctant to source bearings from outside Japan like everyone else and prefers to stick to bushings?

[kevinb120 491]

11 hours ago, Kpowell911 said:

Ill be the first to admit, I spend far to much on this hobby. I can justify the Tamiya’s sat on shelves as my “Collection”. But I have/had the majority of Traxxas vehicles. I love them, I think theyre brilliant. I know not everyone does for very justifiable reasons. I currently have an X Maxx, XRT, Sledge, Rustler 4x4, Stampede 4x4, 2x Wide Maxx’s, Mini Maxx, TRX4, TRX4M. Ive sold a list bigger than that including the on road style RCs, to buy Tamiya’s. With that being said, what else is there to release? What is Traxxas line up missing? We are all anticipating a new release, but I dont think theres anything needed?

I recently looked at buying a Jato 4x4 or a Maxx Slash? You know what I did instead? I bought a super duper fast Charger, Discharger and a new set of Lipos to make it easier to enjoy what I have!

They need to release that snap-on old Indy racer to the public 

[hamtaro 107]

DT 04....Super striker.  For some unknown reason I can't get it out of my head that this is a super striker

[skom25 2396]

4 hours ago, Wheel_Nut said:

I see your point and I think there is truth to it.  However it seems you are criticising Tamiya based on a lot of personal preference.  The DT-04 seems intended as an introductory buggy.  It is not intended to be equivalent to Astute or Dynastorm.   I think it is well suited for it’s purpose.  It is likely a superior design to many classic Tamiya buggies from the 80s and 90s. Better suspension, steering, gearbox, chassis layout, etc.

There are a lot of mid range cars from other manufacturers like Kyosho and Traxxas using better quality materials in their mid range models.  I’m not even sure Tamiya is so keen to compete directly with them these days.  Tamiya’s main strength is their plastic moulding factories, so they are trying to leverage this as much as possible.

I totally agree and I do not have problem with DT-04 itself.

My point is that they discontinued TD2/4 and did not prepare anything new. It means that there is not even one, new Buggy with lexan body and "standard" design.

[Blista 1616]

The DT04 body is a good idea for people new to RC kits.  Spray painting probably puts off people a lot more than building the kit.  Anything that lowers the barrier to entry helps kids and parents.

I sincerely hope those front shock towers are stronger than they look.

They've added their semi-realistic sponsor decals to the DT04 but for the Peugeot 306 Maxi they did a couple of BT-01 CHASSIS stickers and then went to lunch.

[Sgt.Speirs 1601]

8 hours ago, GTodd said:

Either I want the reres that most want: OG Astute, Kingcab/Monster racer, Dyna Storm, 959, or the blazing blazer. OR a new 2wd/4wd chassis that sint wierd. Ill take over ebgineered (Avante/Egress), or a failed Idea DBo2.
…

I‘m not 100% sure, but AFAIK was the Super Astute also not announced on the Toy Fair 2024.

Maybe there will be an update of the lineup during the year🤞🏻

[Elbowloh 1486]

And the TB05r which has been announced was not at Nuremberg?

[Carrera124 85]

The Audi 90 is a very big surprise, same for the re-release of the Peugeot 306 body.

A little bit disappointed about the Golf GTI 16V. The real model always had double headlights on each side, a very distinctive design feature. Hopefully some 3rd party suppliers and/or the 3D printer community will solve this issue.

[Rijkvv 88]

16 minutes ago, Blista said:

They've added their semi-realistic sponsor decals to the DT04 but for the Peugeot 306 Maxi they did a couple of BT-01 CHASSIS stickers and then went to lunch.

If I had an FF03, I would've probably gonna get it anyway, but yes, that's very lazy.

[scoobybooster 397]

51 minutes ago, Elbowloh said:

And the TB05r which has been announced was not at Nuremberg?

This has been rereleased for domestic (japanese) market only, hence it was not displayed at Nuremberg

[Kpowell911 2494]

6 hours ago, kevinb120 said:

They need to release that snap-on old Indy racer to the public 

Last I saw they were now selling for cheaper than they would be new from Traxxas…..

[No Slack 596]

Agree on the 306. Nice body but Sunshine Rally? What was wrong with the original livery? 

 

[Kpowell911 2494]

4 minutes ago, No Slack said:

Agree on the 306. Nice body but Sunshine Rally? What was wrong with the original livery? 

 

Licenses ran out?

[Twinfan 2324]

2 hours ago, Sgt.Speirs said:

I‘m not 100% sure, but AFAIK was the Super Astute also not announced on the Toy Fair 2024.

Maybe there will be an update of the lineup during the year🤞🏻

Yep, the Toy Fair covers up to summer.  There will be more releases later in the year for sure.

[scoobybooster 397]

For those interessed to see some vids of some of the key items:

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[BuggyDad 6517]

12 hours ago, ruebiracer said:

After seeing the video, I say this Fighter is really a step up, if it´s needed or not. It will make agreat beginners and experts buggy. So easy to mod.

The video for me is lacking some important infos for DT users:

DT 04 uses gear box and wishbones from DT02/03. So good to integrate in a Fighter series. 

Rear knuckles seem to have toe in for me, so you can add these to your DT02 and DT03.

Front knuckles with the bearings in the knuckle are a straight drop on DT02 and DT03, so you have more wheel choices now.

Bell crank steering is really great, even ballraced out of the box. Cures the DT03 weakness for braking the Servo saver horns.

And we got now a High torque servo saver horn on a std. old Tamiya servo saver, LOL.

Also the wheelbase mod in front is nice, depending on the needs.

Just through out the comical driver figure. But that´s my personal problem...

Good for beginners: No painting needed, No flimsy Lexan rear wing to kill within seconds...

Seems I´ll need one for fun, when the price drops over time...

Yeah the more I think about this the more intelligent I think the whole thing is. Sharing a gearbox between DT-02/3/4 and Hornet Evo (plus what else will they -Evo?) is just commercial sense and that gearbox is tough as old boots and fit for purpose. How many of their DT buyers would like a better diff? <5%? How many a slipper? <1%? 

I'm guessing the knuckles front and rear and the cranks are the addition of one, maybe two parts trees. Probably little/no more cost than anything else that might be considered a worthwhile chassis refresh, refreshes lots of little detail and rear toe transforms driving. Steering might too. Better straight line control than the 02/03 and probably better steering too. I can imagine beginners simply liking driving it more and it doesn't matter whether they know why. 

I would think the comical side taps a market, and it doesn't seem to be turning many of us off so it looks like a net gain. Me, I like it. 

I would like to see the option of a lexan body and no cage for this. I don't know how integrated the cage is. They've probably got that covered for both this and the BBX but the BBX cage does seem quite integral. 

On the basis that I've many times recommended a DT-03 (or 2) to someone who's asked as a beginner or for a kid, I imagine here on I'll be mentioning this and why I think it's better.

And if one parts tree and some front axles are all you need for hex front and toed in rear on a DT-02/3 then there'll be a few of those parts sold, won't there? 

[ucacjbs 172]

Having paused the RC driver dt04 video and zoomed in on the manual (🤓) it looks like the cage is nowhere near as integral as in the BBX. The rear suspension is wholly mounted on the gearbox vs partially on the cage itself for the BBX), and the front cage does connect at the top of the rear shock tower, but whether that is integral to whole body rigidity (I’m sure it helps a bit) or integral to supporting the cage I couldn’t say. I would expect there could be alternative fitting options that don’t need a full cage. 

[BuggyDad 6517]

5 minutes ago, ucacjbs said:

Having paused the RC driver dt04 video and zoomed in on the manual (🤓) it looks like the cage is nowhere near as integral as in the BBX. The rear suspension is wholly mounted on the gearbox vs partially on the cage itself for the BBX), and the front cage does connect at the top of the rear shock tower, but whether that is integral to whole body rigidity (I’m sure it helps a bit) or integral to supporting the cage I couldn’t say. I would expect there could be alternative fitting options that don’t need a full cage. 

Yes, and the front white body section serves as a brace but it sits low. Either it or an alternative brace part could sit beneath another shell. And there's something neat about using molded plastic there - it needs the bracing anyway. 

[Tamiyastef 3044]

DT-04 = Striker EVO

This is a still from YouTube video by Mikanews.de

[Elbowloh 1486]

8 hours ago, scoobybooster said:

This has been rereleased for domestic (japanese) market only, hence it was not displayed at Nuremberg

Boooo!

That's a shame.

[JimBear 1305]

1st place in the Great Name category (for me at least) is the Mini 4WD car "Fun-Vroom" - isn't that what it's all about?

[ABigChungus 241]

1 hour ago, Tamiyastef said:

DT-04 = Striker EVO

This is a still from YouTube video by Mikanews.de

I had to do a double take when I was browsing Facebook and the DT04 went past. I thought hang on a minute...that looks like a Striker chassis, or at least the bottom half...surely not😅 A coincidence as well, as I only took my Striker out for a run the other week!

[RCvet 141]

I think DT04 looks great.  Anyone who has not figured out Tamiya is not trying to be the ultimate basher and/or racer at this point probably does not belong here.  For a cheap do it all 2wd Buggy, the Traxxas Bandit probably has it covered.   Want a new racer, go buy the latest Team Associated whatever Buggy, easiest way to go.   It's OK to like something else simply because it is something else.  That's how I see Tamiya in a nutshell.

And last I checked, they are not going out of business like a lot of companies that have come and gone over the years or at least owned by another conglomerate, they are doing something right. 

[Howards 836]

12 hours ago, skom25 said:

My point is that they discontinued TD2/4 and did not prepare anything new. It means that there is not even one, new Buggy with lexan body and "standard" design.

Yeah but then you just go head to head with mediocre stuff that’s probably cheaper - like the Dirtmasters and whatever re re du jour is. And the DF-03 that they won’t put out of its misery.
 

if ya wanted the big T to keep making prosumer buggies y’all should have bought TDs. Tamiya got the message loud and clear I think.