Never understood it

[TWINSET]

Clod motor wiring, non standard and not Mayhems

Ok, one is like;

So what is the other one supposed to be like

Please keep it simple []

[BiggusDitchus]

If want to keep it really simple then keep both to 0 degree timing, that way motors will be within a reasonable rpm of each other even with one running backwards. (would need a dyno to get them equal)

If you want to add timing then the motor running in reverse should be timed to the negative

[backtomyroots]

I still don't get it. For example if I had two "sport tuned" motors, would I just reverse the motor wires on the front. Also, I just built my G-made with the standard silver cans and a Super Rooster ESC but had to reverse the wires on the front. What the heck is going on ?! Me and electronics don't mix.

[Floyd]

Yup , your original and second pic is the way its suppose to be . Think of it like this , once you switch the leads for the front motor the negative side is now the positive so the timing would need to be like you show in your second pic .

Backtomyroots , Im not sure what your after . Just because your useing two silver can 540 with no timing at all , you will still have to reverse the leads to the front motor to get it to run in reverse rotation . The only thing easier with motors with no advanced timing is you wont have to screw with adjusting the front motor to be a mirror image of the back motor , other than that you still have to wire it up backwards ...

[aconsola(2)]

The third image is the proper reversal with timing.

the middle image has the timing set as retarded for forward rotation as you have not switched polarity, only moved the timing.

Another way to think of it is mirror images. Put the endbells up to each other end on end, and they should mirror each other in terms of timing and polarity, images one and 3 do this.

-Anthony

[BiggusDitchus]

quote:Originally posted by aconsola

The third image is the proper reversal with timing.

the middle image has the timing set as retarded for forward rotation as you have not switched polarity, only moved the timing.

Another way to think of it is mirror images. Put the endbells up to each other end on end, and they should mirror each other in terms of timing and polarity, images one and 3 do this.

-Anthony

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Thats just going to confuse things, Andy is talking with regards to the motor running in reverse and timed up to same speed as other motor. Therefore the 2nd picture is correct!

If he does as you suggest and then put them in the clod, the one running backwards will be real slow in comparison to the other.

[terry.sc]

The bottom pic is the way to go. If the timing is advanced towards are +ve wire then the reversed motor will also need the timing advanced towards the +ve wire. As a check that you have moved the timing the right way if you connect the motor to a battery if the timing is advanced the right way the motor will spin faster than if you have the timing advanced the wrong way.

[BiggusDitchus]

Ah! if you put it that way yes I was talking about the +ve terminal but for a reverse running motor the +ve wire would be connected to -ve terminal.

Luckily Terry having spoken to Andy on MSN I have already recommended that technique.

[Floyd]

Sorry Twin , I assumed that your drawings represented the end bell of the motor and not the wiring . Most motors are premarked on the positive side ( the positive side allways has a + somewhere close to it ) . So with me thinking it was drawings of the end bell the second pic would still be rite with the timeing advanced twords the - marked side of the motor . Though you would run your + lead to the - marked side of the motor .....

[BiggusDitchus]

quote:Originally posted by Floyd

Sorry Twin , I assumed that your drawings represented the end bell of the motor and not the wiring . Most motors are premarked on the positive side ( the positive side allways has a + somewhere close to it ) . So with me thinking it was drawings of the end bell the second pic would still be rite with the timeing advanced twords the - marked side of the motor . Though you would run your + lead to the - marked side of the motor .....

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Glad it wasnt just me []

[TWINSET]

Jeez, you try and make it easy for people []

the + and - are where the wires would end up, not what's marked on the terminals, sorry

[BiggusDitchus]

Ah if they are the wires then they need to be timed towards the positive wire. So the 3rd pic is right, its not our fault its your not very helpful diagrams.[]

[Floyd]

Lol []