What look Kyosho like Tamiya chassis?

[mr_lister999.]

What Kyosho cars look like the the Tamiya ones (or the other way around) So far i have seen a chassis that looks like the scorcher one and a holiday buggy thing. Don't know the kyosho names, sorry. Has anyone got pictures of the early Kyosho cars so u can have a look? Thanks.

[wldnas]

for the most part Tamiya and Kyosho cars are as different as chalk and cheese, Tamiya cars tend to be more plasic toy like chassis but with realistic looking highly detailed bodies where as Kyoshos are for the most part more professionally engineered for competition from FRP, aluminium and other tough materials yet have basic functional bodies by comparison.

simularities beteen the two makes arnt as common as you think but there are some exceptions to the rule, for instance the early Kyosho effort (which ukstyle recently bought to my attention) called the Eleck Peanuts!! its a Dune buggy with a striking resemblence to the Sand Rover and yet it appears to be of far better quality finish than the Tamiya car, The Sand Scorcher like car you mention is the Scorpion Beetle which does look uncanny but has a far more competative chassis under it than the so called "Tamiya Special racing buggys" I've also noticed one of their latter 4WD cars The Shadow which has a chassis that bears a striking resemblence to the Hotshot/Boomerang cars.... and lets not forgat the Pegasus which shares a remarcable simularity with the Falcon, although I belive the Pegasus came out before the falcon, I think Tamiya Copied Kyosho on this one

there could well be more models, the early Kyosho 4WD trucks could well be seen as equivelents to the Tamiya 3 speeds, but as far as Im aware there is no definitive record available of the full wealth of Kyosho cars the company has produced over the years. maybe its about time someone put the record straight and made a list of everything they have done so as to let ppl know just how big a contribution Kyosho have made to the world RC car market.

[mr_lister999.]

Kyosho to me means about 5 old buggies but i have no idea what they really look like. There must be somebody who has a list and pictures of a majority of the old Kyoshos.

[WillyChang]

Kyosho peers are generally only in terms of timeframe ie. when each one came out. Kyosho's offroad efforts in the early 80s would have been the Scorpion and Beetle.

Wouldn't be hard to see that there's very little 'borrowing' between these two innovators:- Scorpion had a real diff, dogbone driveshafts, coilover shocks and trailing-arm suspension that really worked, a Kydex bumper that didn't fall off on 1st impact. (Ok, so it also had a nice sealed radio box... but it had a battery hatch below![])

[night_owl]

Funny Willy should say that about the bumper. Just yesterday I wack my scorpion into a sign post while fooling around. It hit right between the 2 chassis rails. The bumper turn into a U shape. But I just give it a push and it bounced back.

[WillyChang]

Takes strong man's fingers to push that back... a kiddy would just have removed the bumper, screw it back upside down and then Take Another Crack at That Pole!!! [] (don't ask, but it worked at the time)

[DJTheo]

quote:there could well be more models, the early Kyosho 4WD trucks could well be seen as equivelents to the Tamiya 3 speeds,

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Not really, although their buggies were a better construction than the Tamiya RBs, the Kyosho 2 speeds lack... Their gearbox is primitive, they have a centrifugal clutch so no braking[][:0] (as they were using the same transmission for their gas versions), had an exposed outside chain, only their suspension has a large (better) travel, but real truckers anyway only accept rigid axles and not independent suspensions...

[WillyChang]

Kyosho made a few wierd RCs in the early days... like big yellow construction vehicles & motorcycles, long before Tamiya joined in.

[RETRO R/C]

To be fair - the Kyosho "gearbox" trucks were brought out WELL BEFORE the Tamiya creations. In fact Kyosho hold the "mantle" for the first "gearbox" truck with the "INDIANNA" - early 1981 !!

Cheers

Darryn