New Tamiya TRF 415

[mjohnston39]

Looks expensive []

Mike.

[WillyChang]

Hmm... wonder if any parts are swappable with the Corally Assasin?? [}]

[SJoerD]

Where are the blue dampers? []

I think that looks **** nice, for a touring car. I can already see a version with more plastic comming: the TA-05.

Though one thing my eagle eye is missing: The holes for the racing front hub carrier (as on TA-04) are there, but there is not actual rods... Also the steering rods are on ballheads that double as the upright pin.

The holes are on the front C hub next to the ballhead of the steering rod, and the rod should go to a ballhead which replaces the 2 screws (left and right) in the upperdeck that are right above the steering arms.

But you can always buy a hop-up perhaps. [}]

[sosidge]

But the extra front suspension braces are undesirable anyway. At best they just add a little friction, at worst they hold the suspension out of place after a crash.

[WillyChang]

quote:

Originally posted by Sjoerd

Though one thing my eagle eye is missing: The holes for the racing front hub carrier (as on TA-04) are there, but there is not actual rods... Also the steering rods are on ballheads that double as the upright pin.

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The C-carriers with the hole are different in camber

to the stock TA04 item without the extra holes...

Same deal as on the EvoIII.

[WillyChang]

quote:

Originally posted by sosidge

But the extra front suspension braces are undesirable anyway. At best they just add a little friction, at worst they hold the suspension out of place after a crash.

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Desirability of the torquerods differs according to your preferences.

Setup as per Tamiya instructions, they will do funny things to your

camber as the suspension moves up. But this can be adjusted by

shimming one pair of balls higher.

I feel the rods make the TA04 livelier and corners better

(or might just be the camber change??). Have put rods also

on EvoIII and there's less "improvement", but it does

stiffen up the slop a bit.

Local race guys think the rods are just one more thing that

can fall off in battle, but personally my impacts have popped

off more rear links than any front ones. By the time its popped

the front link/s the susp arm (hard) would have broken and

the hingepin needing replacement.

Mega hint:- if anybody wants to put torque rods on TA04/EvoIII

and you don't need fancy titanium etc turnbuckles, just buy the

53300 TL-01 turnbuckle tie-rod set, gives you all you need - cheap!

(if TA04 hasn't got the new C-carriers, buy

53458 TA04 Racing hub carrier set)

[WillyChang]

quote:

Originally posted by Sjoerd

Where are the blue dampers? [

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Looks blue id="blue">here, in the RC World grabs?

[SJoerD]

Willy, on your pics is has blue dampers (and a black spurgear too). I't doesn't make me feel blue though I like the silver dampers on the car better. [8D]

[Porsche 928_gts_02]

Anyone know where I can purchase this car? Done a search for TRF 415 and NOTHING shows up...

Darin

[Thesis]

It's probably not available yet....[]

[WillyChang]

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Originally posted by Porsche 928_gts_02

Anyone know where I can purchase this car? Done a search for TRF 415 and NOTHING shows up...

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Patience patience... its still very much a preview/concept vehicle

imho. Has not even been announced on Tamiya's website yet.

It will probably be debuted by Surikarn in Thailand this weekend

but it'll be months away at least before it reaches any shop shelf.

[mjohnston39]

quote:Has not even been announced on Tamiya's website yet

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Actually that's where the orginal photos came from.

Mike.

[WillyChang]

******! Couldn't find it the other day but yup found it today!!

http://www.tamiya.com/japan/products/trf415_pre/index.htm

... "Reedy Race Asia 2003"... hmmm!

[DJTheo]

Also on the english page http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/trf415_pre/index.htm

Cheers

[Top Force Racer]

Just what the R/C community needs--another hotshot touring car. If Tamiya had some nerves, they'd make this into an off-road buggy. Call it the Neo Shot Evolution or something.

[malcolm(2)]

Wonder why they did another belt drive car, after the EVO3 was so successfull?[?]

[WillyChang]

quote:

Originally posted by malcolm

Wonder why they did another belt drive car, after the EVO3 was so successfull?[?]

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HPI Pro I/II

AE TC3

and now...

Corally Assassin!

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[RETRO R/C]

No - Tech released this chassis before Corally ..... the wonders of badge engineering.......it happens everywhere!

Cheers

Darryn

[Top Force Racer]

The Corally Assasin looks like a killer car, but the AE TC3 is shaft drive.

[RETRO R/C]

I think Willy was referring to the "myth" that Tamiya copied the HPI pro witht he 414 - and the TC3 with the Evo........

Trouble is with these sort of theories - is that if you want to get real technical - have a look at the first "REAL" racing orientad touring car - the Yokomo YR-4....hmmmmmmm - all designs are an extension of that if you look..Also - you could even say the Tenth Technology predator is a benchmark for shaft drives.............I seem to remember team associated drivers using them at several major meetings before Associated "designed" the TC3.........ahhhh - but I am being to "historical" now........

Cheers

Darryn

[RETRO R/C]

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LOLOL

With my comment on the Yokomo YR-4 - I was more talking about touring cars.......have a look at the layout.....remarkably similar when you take away some of the "bulk".......

Cheers

Darryn

[Tamiya UK]

quote:

Originally posted by tony gray

TB01 Evo 1 Pre-dated TC3 by a good 12 months or so.

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what calender is that on ? care to share the dates ?

[Top Force Racer]

I don't know...the Associated website claims that the TC3 was introduced at the end of 1999. And as far as I can remember, the release date for the TB Evo kit #58267 was Oct 2000.