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The Dude

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Just to let everyone know a great british 1/10th buggy is now returning to international racing. The Ttech (or Tenth Technology) is now back after what everyone thought was the end to the most sucessful buggy of all time (Shumacher Cat and Yokomo Dogfighter not wiststanding) has returned and will be avilable from March 2005 onwards to most porbably dominate the world stage.

I have been racing these 1/10th buggy's for many years (1986 onwards) have loved many designs (PB maxima, Optima Mid, Orginal Cat + 2000 , 3000 and , most of all the Yokomo YZ870c Dogfighter) but must admit fell in love with the Tenth Technology Predator and Cat 3000. now after 2-3 years Ttech are back with the Predator X10 better than any other 1/10th buggy (Losi and BJ4 included) and now may the battle comence.

Did have an order for the new BJ$ (by J Concepts) but am thinking of mothballing the kit (NIB of Course) and racing the new Pred, It has a great history and best of all it is brtish and caries on the mark left by the old pred, cat 3000 (until the 4k turns up)

see you all racing or just having fun.

God I love this hobby.

Regards

Russell Mills

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terry.sc

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If anyone is interested in an X10 better get one reserved as they will only be produced in limited numbers to avoid the backup supply problems they used to have. Its the ultimate Predator, with a maching ultimate price tag of £387 for the car.[:0]

At least parts from the new car should fit my old one to get it running again.[:D]

RETRO R/C Mentor

RETRO R/C

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While they are or were a reasonable car - in no way were they in the same league as the dogfighters and XX4's!!

Will be interesting to see if they actually redisign the suspension so it works - let alone the rather weak drivetrain.

Hope they have - god knows that off road needs some life breathed into !

Cheers

Darryn

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bender

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quote:Originally posted by RETRO R/C

While they are or were a reasonable car - in no way were they in the same league as the dogfighters and XX4's!!

Will be interesting to see if they actually redisign the suspension so it works - let alone the rather weak drivetrain.

Hope they have - god knows that off road needs some life breathed into !

Cheers

Darryn

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Darryn, Here in Oz I think the problem was that firstly they didn't have any team drivers - not a problem if you're driving a "normal" car, but can be rather difficult when you're trying to set up something as radical as the Predator. Just look at how well they went in Europe with a proper team!

Secondly, and this probably relates again to not having a team, the Predator seemed to struggle on our slippery tracks to get any sort of good traction. If you can't get grip, you're going to hit a lot of bumps and jumps sideways, and that just doesn't work! - that also had a lot to do with the cars fragility!

RETRO R/C Mentor

RETRO R/C

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Hey bender :

I am here in Aus too -.......the car may be good on smooth high grip surfaces - however it is or was a VERY difficult car to get set up successfully. More to do with the suspension layout and lack of smooth articulation than anything else.....the cars were extremely quick and lightweight - but ihere in Aus we are not favoured with blue grove smooth tracks..........after all it is "OFF ROAD" racing isnt it? Not circuit racing on dirt !

Spent many a long day trying to get one working here, and while we got close - they never liked the rough stuff.....the other problem was that they were relatively fragile.

Hopefully the new car will address the problems of the old one - if it doesnt - it will probably be still successfull on "blue groove" tracks favoured by the American off roaders at this time. Nopt to hard to set up a car to run on astroturf and high grip clay.[:D]

Cheers

Daz

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bender

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By the looks of it they have tried to improve the quality and toughness of the new car - but the design remain essentialy the same. I already know 1 Predator fan who has his ordered. I will be very interested to see what he can do with it[:D]

Dirt Racer Enthusiast

Dirt Racer

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Nice to see some interested parties on this car, Could we agree on the TTech cars having their own dedicated Make/model section? rather than just getting mixed up in the Misc section? so far theres only been a request from myself and one other, a make/model really needs ten requests. [:)] from ten different people ofcourse [;)]

For those of you who maybe interested in joining a Ttech forum heres a link to the site (Hope im not in hot water with the Mods [:I])

http://www.chburgess.co.uk/pred.html

Dirt Racer Enthusiast

Dirt Racer

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quote:Originally posted by RETRO R/C

While they are or were a reasonable car - in no way were they in the same league as the dogfighters and XX4's!!

Will be interesting to see if they actually redisign the suspension so it works - let alone the rather weak drivetrain.

Hope they have - god knows that off road needs some life breathed into !

Cheers

Darryn

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While Bender covered most of it,

Darryn, you statement about the pred not being in the same league as the yokes and losi, dude you aint got clue what your talking about, im sorry to have put it like that but theres just no other way of putting it.

Look at it this way.... It took a Wizard (Masami, nuff said) to put the Yoke on the map... And it took lots of money, development, a big team (being American) to get the XX4 where it got.

And now we get to the borring bit, so my apologies in advance [8D]

Tenth Tech being a small BRITISH company with a relatively small (UK) or at times no Intl teams but this is what achieved,

1. Numerous BRITISH championship.

2. Won and TQ'ed Euro Championships

3. Italian Champs.

4. German Champs.

5. S.Africa Champs.

6. China Champs.

7. New Zealand champs.

8. 5th at ranch (world champs)

9. USA Nats

Get this, on one of the Winter Nats (USA) Brian Kinwald + Derek Furutani Drove the ***** of the car and from what i heard + read BK lapped the whole field in all the heats and a final and against those you mentioned yokes, losi xx and they did this in little or no track test at all. So what was your point?. Im afraid you got this the wrong way round Darryn. [;)][:D]

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bender

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Dirt Racer-

I think Darryn is just commenting from local experience, if you'd seen how badly they went in Australia, you might agree with his statement [;)]

Yokomo and Losi cars have always been dominant in Australia, due to the fact they were the most reliable, generated the most grip, and were the only cars to handle on our tracks.

Obviously things are different all round the world, Yokomo have always struggled in Europe, and Kyosho were very strong in the US many, many years ago. It's just the nature of racing that different cars will work better on some tracks than others.

Off Road is to me, quite boring now - as there aren't enough competitive cars out there - so I'm glad the Pred is back because it's so different. Now all we need is for Schumacher, Kyosho, and Tamiya to release new off roaders (not likely [:(]) !

Dirt Racer Enthusiast

Dirt Racer

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Well, ive seen Preds race on different types of track surfaces and its never failed to impress myself and a lot of people to say the least, im not talking about grass surface racing, im on about clay and proper dirt tracks as loose as they get, Its not the car's fault if the region where its raced got a lame backup whether it'll be a team/spares problem. I suppose from a racer's point of view its one aspect of calling a car a good car..If there was ever a weak point to this car and this goes for anyone, it'll have to be the spares. The spares backup issue is the weak point to this car nothing else really..

RETRO R/C Mentor

RETRO R/C

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"Dirt Racer"..............thoust does protest to much!!

Read my post's again [:D] - my comments were directed at local (Australia) racing and a general feeling from my racing contacts around the world.

You contadict yourself with the "generalised/implied" comments about not requiring a top driver to do well................when you state that BK and Furatani kicked butt. Brian Kinwald could Qualify a toy K-Mart car if he had to - these guys are truly amazing to watch.

Yokomo and Losi are successfull because you can get the cars to work almost anywhere and on most surfaces....................I do understand your view - however there are ways to go about things.

Please try and think before you post - and when you do dont be so aggrssive dude!! [:D] I do have a clue, I do know what I am talking about.

Opinions are like belly buttons, everyone has one.[:P]

Keep smiling

Darryn

P.S - Bender : Schumacher still make the cat - it is still competitive .........new car coming soon from what I understand as well.

Dirt Racer Enthusiast

Dirt Racer

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Sorry Daz, just theres a lot of people who are quick to knock the pants off the Pred and im sure Bender will agree with me on this that we go on endlessly repeating the same thing on other forums. Although the elite drivers in the world are a sight to see they still need a decent car to drive and the thing about Kmart car is a little overexagerated dont you think? [xx(]

When you look at the British offroad tracks, its almost laughable matter that we actually race on grass for outdoors and multi surface indoor tracks consisting of slippery floor and carpet. Having said that when we go round the world racing on proper dirt tracks its funny how we still get the one/three odd British Drivers in there?

The success around the world speaks for itself not only in Britain but as Bender pointed out more likely a lack of a team drive. If you guys cant set the car right (as you pointed out) then it aint the car.

The results speaks for itself and kinwald didnt make them all himself. [;)]

I have to admit, i hated the pred when i first got it, simply because i didnt know how to fine tune the car and yeah i did get gear problems only because i didnt know you had to keep an eye on the meshing and shimming it when it got a little slack only when someone taught me on what things to look for and the setups did i start to enjoy racing the pred. After the Associated TC3 gear conversion was made by none other than Dave.G the gear problem became a thing of the past.

Tanker, im cool, really!. [:D]

RETRO R/C Mentor

RETRO R/C

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Absolutely no dramas here mate - was just expressing an opinion based on my experiences. For any given track the Pred was by far the most difficult car to set up "just6 right" - and more often than not this ideal set up could not be acheived. IO will say it agin - ANY new car would be welcomed on to the 4wd off road market. I will also say again - I hope the car does extremely well. I Have to admit there was not much that could touch the Pred in a straight line though.

My comments on the Kmart car were an over eggageration perhaps - however the driver has and always will be at least 85% of the success or failure of a car.

This forum is not generally like other forums - so dont feel that you have to defend the Pred...we all love this stuff and as a general rule of thuumb get along extremely well.

Cheers

Darryn

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InetRC

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Vaughn,

Hope it's not too late to answer your post. LOL!

Let me know if you need any aditional pictures taken.

Predator buggy:

http://www.tamiyaclub.com/showroom_model.a...d=34943&id=5861

Vintage Predator DTM on-road chassis:

http://www.tamiyaclub.com/showroom_model.a...=34941&sid=5861

Vintage Predator Streetwise stadium truck chassis:

http://www.tamiyaclub.com/showroom_model.a...d=34942&id=5861

Vintage Streetwise stadium truck - New Built:

http://www.tamiyaclub.com/showroom_model.a...d=35639&id=5861

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cant_get_right2005

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hello Alex...hey thanks for that......i ended up having the magazine reviews on most of the tenth tec products..including the truck.....

i almost bought one of those trucks new built from a tamiya member but decided i didnt want it

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