I wonder if GT4 actually exists?

[Lordcroker]

I just wondered if I am the only one who has been eagerly awaiting Gran Turismo 4 since...well forever now. I have had it on back order for over 18 months!!

They keep putting it's release date back. The last I knew it was the 1st December (sensibly in time for Xmas), but learn today that it has now been put off until 1st February!!!

So Sony...does the game even exist? lol

It's funny how they have had the time to produce 2 sub standard games (concept and prologue) but not to perfect the proper one......

I will be bitterly dissapointed if it is anything less than absolute perfection, although the classic cars in the screenshots do bode well:)

I for one am fed up of endless versions of Imprezzas/Skylines etc that have been modified by obscure Japanese tuning firms.....I mean who are Spoon anyway? Perhaps other types of cutlery will be putting their names to cars in the new game. The Mitsubishi EvoxxxIIIIIvvvvvvv tuned by butter knife.

Lets have at least a few token interesting cars like in GT2, Cobra coupe, Charger, Mustang etc

[tamiyarcguy]

Be glad they are taking time to fix all the probs now...otherwise it would be a deuce of a game

[mr_pushrod]

http://www2.jgtc.net/gtcgi/prg/NList02.dll...dth=588&List=13

Apparentely it's out on December the 3rd but that is NTSC countries only. Because of apparent problems with PAL, there is an additional delay for it to get to the UK and Europe. February is earlier than I heard though, a GT forum go on mentioned March!

[tamiyarcguy]

sounds like its time for the uk and european guys to do a mod on the PS2's that will allow their unit to read all games so this isnt a problem.

[minijosh]

HAHA I will own it before everyone else in the UK with a PAL system PS2. You all can come over to my house and play. [)]

[mr_pushrod]

quote:Originally posted by minijosh

HAHA I will own it before everyone else in the UK with a PAL system PS2. You all can come over to my house and play. [)]

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[stulec52]

well I have an NTSC PS2, but I do live in North America,

But I also have a PAL DVD Region X disc brand new, if anyone wants it.

That should run NTSC disks ( dvd + games) on your PAL PS2's

[Neil_S2000]

quote:Originally posted by Lordcroker

I just wondered if I am the only one who has been eagerly awaiting Gran Turismo 4 since...well forever now. I have had it on back order for over 18 months!!

They keep putting it's release date back. The last I knew it was the 1st December (sensibly in time for Xmas), but learn today that it has now been put off until 1st February!!!

So Sony...does the game even exist? lol

It's funny how they have had the time to produce 2 sub standard games (concept and prologue) but not to perfect the proper one......

I will be bitterly dissapointed if it is anything less than absolute perfection, although the classic cars in the screenshots do bode well:)

I for one am fed up of endless versions of Imprezzas/Skylines etc that have been modified by obscure Japanese tuning firms.....I mean who are Spoon anyway? Perhaps other types of cutlery will be putting their names to cars in the new game. The Mitsubishi EvoxxxIIIIIvvvvvvv tuned by butter knife.

Lets have at least a few token interesting cars like in GT2, Cobra coupe, Charger, Mustang etc

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Who are Spoon? Spoon are a well-known and respected racing team who also make tuning parts for Honda cars.

http://www.spoon.jp/

Not exactly obscure, and certainly better at what they do than most of the Max Power reading halfwits who 'tune' (read: stick ridiculous body kits on) cars in the UK. [] Could you imagine a UK version of Gran Turismo? You'd get to race 1 litre Saxos around a Macdonalds car park and buy tuning parts from Halfords....

There will be a lot more cars in the game, waaaay more than in GT3, I know this for a fact because Evo did an article where they took their Caterham R400 to be photographed and recorded for the game - so I think you will be in luck. Although the cars you mentioned are more suited to drag races, American motor manufacturers have never really got the hang of going round corners (catamongstthepigeons) []. I guess the reason it's taking so long to make could be because they want to do a good job.

[dhes2809]

I live in the UK and I havent got a saxo. Or a honda.

[Neil_S2000]

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I live in the UK and I havent got a saxo. Or a honda.

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That's lovely.

[dhes2809]

It is isnt it?

Dont go down on the boy racers to much though. Most of these kids carnt afford to go to 'spoon' so they go to halfords. after all we were all once a boy racer infact most of us still are. Nower days they put 22" rims on there cars where as most of us on here jacked the leaf springs up on the back of our Mk2 Escorts.

Now we can insure a fast car rather than buy a slow car and make it look fast.

Anyway although some of these Max Power cars arnt to everyones taste what they lack in power they make up for in work done in the body shop. the work that must go into some of the kits and paint jobs these lads have are brilliant.

Gran tourismo is no better anyway you start off with a cheap car and try and get as much out of it as you can till you can afford something better.

As for GT4 I wont beleave anything I read till I see it on the shelf in the shops. Its stupid that it should take so long after they have said it would be ready. There must have been something went badly wrong for them to go over a year over time.

[irenL]

who/what is halfords?

[mymonsterbeetleisbroken]

quote:Could you imagine a UK version of Gran Turismo? You'd get to race 1 litre Saxos around a Macdonalds car park and buy tuning parts from Halfords....

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press triangle, square, triangle, up down, r1, r2 to unlock the secret vauxhall nova []

halfords is a automotove store that sells anything from haynes manuals, rattle tins, car radios and also sell mountain bikes.

its one of those stores that are always closed when you want something, and when you buy something from there you usually end up taking it back - several times []

[irenL]

ah wow! that bad huh? reminds me of certain auto parts store in my area...

[TWINSET]

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halfords is a automotove store that sells anything from haynes manuals, rattle tins, car radios and also sell mountain bikes.

its one of those stores that are always closed when you want something, and when you buy something from there you usually end up taking it back - several times []

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It's also a seller of some RC monster trucks, such as HPI Savages, and the salespeople went to the 'drop it from a height, and show them the suspension, that'll be enough to sell it' college of selling.

Which is right next to the Uni of 'dunno what I'm talking about sir'

[mr_pushrod]

We had some people ring the LHS I work in asking for HPI spares as Halfords couldn't help. While we don't stock HPI, I got talking to someone who bought a couple for her 13 year old sons. She said that the staff had no clue and at one point most of the staff of one store were huddled round a Savage, manager included. In the end she was told to come back one day the next week when someone apparently in the know would be there. It struck me as strupid that they sold cars with no back up and even more stupid that they'd sell Nitro to a first time RC user!

PS. Check http://www.gtplanet.net for the latest news. The forum is particularly good and has plenty of info.

[irenL]

quote:Originally posted by mr_pushrod

We had some people ring the LHS I work in asking for HPI spares as Halfords couldn't help. While we don't stock HPI, I got talking to someone who bought a couple for her 13 year old sons. She said that the staff had no clue and at one point most of the staff of one store were huddled round a Savage, manager included. In the end she was told to come back one day the next week when someone apparently in the know would be there. It struck me as strupid that they sold cars with no back up and even more stupid that they'd sell Nitro to a first time RC user!

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Yup, definitely reminds me of an import garage some 45 minutes away from our location... Guy came in for O2 sensor replacement, tech took in the car, cut off all 4 wires to the O2 sensor when there's a plug down the line... crimped all the wires back together wrong, making an O2 sensor that won't cycle...and they insist the engine's a goner. Guy didn't pass emission test on a perfectly healthy engine. So we got to figure out the polarities of all 4 wires, and solder everything the right way, minus connector because the last shop junked it.

Then there's more complain bout that modding garage as well where they just can't refrain themselves from bugging the dealership for every single car they touch. They did earn several top place thropies at the local import nights (translation: all bling bling and no go, rice boy attractions), but certainly overwhelmed with tasks as simple as changing spark plugs or taking compression readings.

[Lordcroker]

*another rant...the 18 month pre-order saga continues....*

Now it's getting near the release date, it has been put back again to 3rd March. I wonder if they enjoy teasing us like this, it was very tempting to press the cancel order button!

I know it's a big game but Rockstar have made 3 GTA's since GT3 was released, all of which must be equally big...so whats the story Polyphony?

Maybe they want to include EVERY colourscheme that has ever graced a racing Skyline (yawns) this time around?

What really gets my goat is that Sony recently sent me a GT4 flyer telling me all about it and how I should go out and buy it.

I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FOR 18 MONTHS!!! [}]

*RANT OVER* []

[fury_dice(2)]

This might aid the GT experience - only 7 grand!

http://www.virtual-gt.com/details.html

[mr_pushrod]

I'm liking that cockpit! I've heard release date is actually the 11th of March I'm afraid although the carlist makes it well worthwhile;

AC (U.K.)

Cobra 427 S/C ('66)

ACURA (U.S.)

CL 3.2 Type-S ('01)

CL 3.2 Type-S ('03)

Integra Type-R ('01)

NSX ('91)

NSX ('97)

NSX ('04)

RSX Type-S ('04)

ALFA ROMEO (Italy)

147 2.0 Twin Spark ('02)

147 GTA ('02)

155 V6 TI (DTM '93)

156 2.5 V6 24V ('98)

166 2.5 V6 24V ('98)

GTV 3.0 V6 24V ('01)

Giulia Sprint Speciale ('63)

Giulia Sprint GTA 1600 ('65)

Spider Duetto 1600 ('66)

Spider 3.0i V6 24V ('01)

ALPINE (France)

A110 1600S ('73)

A310 1600VE ('73)

AMUSE (Tuner)

S2000 ('04)

S2000 R1 ('04)

S2000 GT1 ('04)

Skyline GT-R Carbon-R (R34) ('04)

ASL (Japan)

Garaiya ('02)

Garaiya (ARTA JGTC '03)

ASTON MARTIN (U.K.)

DB7 Vantage ('00)

DB9 ('03)

V8 Vantage ('99)

Vanquish ('04)

AUDI (Germany)

(Abt) TT-R (Sony DTM '02)

A2 1.4 ('02)

A3 3.2 Quattro ('03)

A4-DTM (Red Bull DTM '04)

LeMans Quattro Concept ('03)

Quattro ('82)

R8 (Infineon LeMans '01)

RS4 ('01)

RS6 Sedan ('02)

RS6 Avant ('02)

S3 ('02)

S4 ('98)

S4 ('03)

TT 1.8T Quattro ('00)

TT 3.2 Quattro ('03)

AUTOBIANCHI (Italy)

A112 Abarth ('79)

BENTLEY (U.K.)

Speed 8 (LeMans '03)

BLITZ (Tuner)

Skyline ER34 (D1 '04)

BMW (Germany)

120d ('04)

120i ('04)

2002 Turbo ('73)

320i (ETCC '03)

330i ('05)

M Coupe ('98)

M3 ('04)

M3 CSL ('03)

M3 GTR Road Car ('03)

M3 GTR Race Car ('01)

M5 ('05)

V12 LMR (Dell LeMans '99)

Z4 3.0i ('03)

BUICK (U.S.)

GNX ('87)

Special (custom tuned) ('62)

CADILLAC (U.S.)

Cien Concept ('02)

CALLAWAY (U.S.)

C12 ('03)

CATERHAM (U.K.)

Fireblade ('02)

CHEVROLET (U.S.)

Camaro IROC-Z Concept ('88)

Camaro SS 350 ('69)

Camaro SS ('00)

Camaro Z28 302 ('69)

Camaro Z28 ('97)

Camaro LM Edition ('01)

Chevelle SS 454 ('70)

Corvette Convertible ('54)

Corvette Grand Sport ('96)

Corvette Stingray ('63)

Corvette Stingray L46 350 ('69)

Corvette Z06 Race Car ('63)

Corvette Z06 ('00)

Corvette ZR-1 ('90)

Corvette C5-R ('00)

Silverado SST Concept ('02)

SSR ('03)

CHRYSLER (U.S.)

Crossfire ('04)

Prowler ('02)

PT Cruiser ('00)

CITROËN (France)

2CV Type-A ('54)

C3 1.6i ('02)

C5 V6 Exclusive ('03)

Xantia 3.0i V6 Exclusive ('00)

Xsara Rally Car ('99)

Xsara VTR ('03)

CIZETA (Italy)

Moroder V16T ('94)

DAIHATSU (Japan)

Copen Active Top ('02)

Copen Detachable Top ('02)

Midget ('63)

Midget II D-Type ('98)

Mira TR-XX Avanzato-R ('97)

Move Custom RS Limited 4WD ('02)

Move SR-XX 2WD ('97)

Move SR-XX 4WD ('97)

Move CX 2WD ('95)

Storia CX 2WD ('98)

Storia CX 4WD ('98)

Storia X4 ('00)

DMC (U.S.)

DeLorean DMC-12 Series 2 ('04)

DODGE (U.S.)

Charger 440 R/T ('70)

Charger Super Bee 426 ('71)

Ram 1500 Laramie Hemi Quad Cab ('04)

SRT-4 ('03)

Viper GTS ('99)

Viper GTS-R (Team Oreca LeMans '00)

Viper GTSR Concept ('00)

Viper SRT-10 ('03)

DOME (Japan)

Zero Concept ('78)

EAGLE (U.S.)

Talon ESi ('97)

FIAT (Italy)

500F ('65)

500L ('69)

500R ('72)

Barchetta Giovane Due ('00)

Coupe Turbo Plus ('00)

Panda Super IE ('90)

Punto HGT Abarth ('00)

FORD (U.S.)

Escort Rally Car ('98)

F-150 SVT Lightning ('03)

Focus Rally Car ('99)

Focus ST170 ('03)

Focus RS ('02)

GT Concept ('02)

GT ('05)

GT LM Edition ('02)

GT LM Edition Spec-II ('04)

GT40 Race Car ('69)

Ka ('01)

Model T Tourer ('15)

Mustang GT ('05)

Mustang SVT Cobra-R ('00)

RS200 ('84)

RS200 Rally Car ('85)

Taurus SHO ('98)

FORD (Australia)

Falcon XR8 (V8 Supercar '00)

FPV (Australia)

Falcon F6 Typhoon ('04)

Falcon GT ('04)

GILLET (Belgium)

Vertigo Race Car ('04)

GINETTA (U.K.)

G4 ('64)

HKS (Tuner)

Silvia (Genki Hyper D1) ('04)

HOLDEN (Australia)

Commodore SS Series II ('04)

Monaro CV8 ('04)

HOMMELL (France)

Berlinetta R/S Coupe ('02)

HONDA (Japan)

(Ballade Sport) CRX 1.5i ('83)

(Mugen) Civic Si (Motul Race Car '87)

(Mugen) S2000 ('00)

1300 Coupe 9S ('70)

Accord Euro-R ('00)

Accord Euro-R ('02)

Accord Coupe (US) ('88)

Accord Coupe EX V6 6-speed (US) ('03)

Beat ('91)

Beat Version F ('92)

Beat Version Z ('93)

Civic 1500 CX 3-door ('79)

Civic 1500 25i 3-Door ('83)

Civic SiR-II ('91)

Civic SiR-II ('92)

Civic SiR-II ('93)

Civic SiR-II ('95)

Civic Type-R ('97)

Civic Type-R ('98)

Civic Type-R ('01)

Civic Type-R ('04)

Civic Race Car (Gathers Drider '98)

City Turbo-II ('83)

CRX SiR ('90)

CRX del Sol SiR ('92)

DualNote Concept ('01)

Element ('03)

Fit W ('01)

HSC Concept ('03)

Insight ('99)

Integra Type-R ('95)

Integra Type-R ('98)

Integra Type-R ('99)

Integra Type-R ('03)

Integra Type-R Touring Car ('02)

Life Step Van ('72)

N360 ('67)

NSX ('90)

NSX ('93)

NSX ('95)

NSX ('97)

NSX ('99)

NSX ('01)

NSX Type-R ('92)

NSX Type-R ('02)

NSX Type-S ('97)

NSX Type-S ('99)

NSX Type-S ('01)

NSX Type-S Zero ('97)

NSX Type-S Zero ('99)

NSX (ARTA JGTC '00)

NSX (Castrol Mugen JGTC '00)

NSX (Raybrig JGTC '00)

NSX (Loctite Mugen JGTC '01)

NSX (Mobil 1 JGTC '01)

NSX (Takata Dome JGTC '03)

NSX-R Concept ('01)

NSX-R LM Edition Road Car ('02)

NSX-R LM Edition Race Car ('02)

Odyssey Absolute ('03)

Prelude Si VTEC ('91)

Prelude SiR ('96)

Prelude SiR S-Spec ('98)

Prelude Type-S ('96)

Prelude Type-S ('98)

S500 ('63)

S600 ('64)

S800 ('66)

S800 RSC Race Car ('68)

S2000 ('99)

S2000 Type-V ('00)

S2000 ('01)

S2000 Type-V ('01)

S2000 ('03)

S2000 Type-V ('03)

S2000 LM Race Car ('01)

Today G ('85)

Z Act ('70)

HYUNDAI (Korea)

Accent Rally Car ('01)

Clix Concept ('01)

Coupe FX ('01)

HCD6 Concept ('01)

INFINITI (U.S.)

FX45 Concept ('02)

G35 Sedan ('03)

ISUZU (Japan)

117 Coupe ('68)

Bellett 1600 GT-R ('69)

Piazza XE ('81)

JAGUAR (U.K.)

E-Type Coupe ('61)

S-Type R ('02)

XJ220 ('92)

XJ220 LM Edition ('01)

XKR ('99)

XKR R-Performance ('02)

JAY LENO (U.S.)

Tank Car ('03)

JENSEN-HEALEY (U.K.)

Interceptor Mk.III ('74)

LANCIA (Italy)

Delta S4 Rally Car ('85)

Delta Intergrale HF Evolutione ('91)

Delta Intergrale HF Rally Car ('92)

Stratos ('73)

Stratos Rally Car ('77)

LAND ROVER (U.K.)

Ranger Stormer Concept ('04)

LISTER (U.K.)

Storm V12 Race Car ('99)

LOTUS (U.K.)

Carlton ('90)

Elan Series 1 ('62)

Elise ('00)

Elise Type-72 ('01)

Elise 111S ('03)

Elise 111R ('04)

Elise Sport 190 ('98)

Esprit Turbo HC ('87)

Esprit Sport 350 ('00)

Esprit V8 GT ('98)

Esprit V8 SE ('98)

Esprit V8 ('02)

Europa Special ('71)

Motorsport Elise ('99)

MARCOS (U.K.)

Mini Marcos GT Mk.III ('70)

MAZDA (Japan)

787B (LeMans '91)

Atenza ('01)

Atenza Sport 23Z ('03)

Atenza Mazdaspeed ('05)

Atenza Touring Car ('02)

Autozam AZ-1 ('92)

Carol 360 Deluxe ('62)

Cosmo Sport L10A ('67)

Cosmo Sport L10B ('68)

Demio GL-X ('99)

Demio Sport ('03)

Eunos Roadster 1.6 ('89)

Eunos Roadster J-Limited ('91)

Eunos Roadster J-Limited II ('93)

Eunos Roadster SR-Limited ('97)

Eunos Roadster S-Special Type-I ('95)

Eunos Roadster VR-Limited Combination A ('95)

Eunos Roadster V-Special Type-II ('93)

Familia Sport 2.0 ('02)

Kusabi Concept ('03)

Lantis Coupe 2000 Type-R ('93)

Roadster 1.8RS ('98)

Roadster 1800RS ('00)

Roadster 1800RS ('04)

Roadster 1600 NR-A ('04)

RX-7 Savanna GT-Limited ('85)

RX-7 Savanna GT-X ('90)

RX-7 Savanna Efini-III ('90)

RX-7 Efini Type-R ('91)

RX-7 Efini Type-RZ ('92)

RX-7 Efini Type-R ('93)

RX-7 Efini Type-RZ ('93)

RX-7 Efini Type-R-S ('95)

RX-7 Efini Type-RZ ('95)

RX-7 Efini Type-RS ('96)

RX-7 Efini Type-RZ ('96)

RX-7 Type-RS-R ('97)

RX-7 Type-RS ('98)

RX-7 Type-RS ('00)

RX-7 Type-RZ ('00)

RX-7 Spirit-R Type-A ('02)

RX-7 Type-R Bathurst-R ('01)

RX-7 (BP Falken D1GP '03)

RX-7 LM Edition ('01)

RX-8 Concept Version I ('01)

RX-8 Concept Version II ('01)

RX-8 ('03)

RX-8 Type-E ('03)

RX-8 Type-S ('03)

RX-8 LM Edition ('01)

McLAREN (Listed Under BMW - Germany)

F1 GTR Long Tail (Fina LeMans '97)

MERCEDES-BENZ (Germany)

(Benz) Patent Motor-Wagen (1886)

(Daimler) Motor Carriage (1886)

(Sauber) C9 (LeMans '89)

190E 2.5 16V Evolution II ('91)

190E 2.5 16V Evolution II (Sonax DTM '92)

300SL Coupe ('54)

A160 ('98)

CL600 ('00)

CLK55 AMG ('00)

CLK-DTM (D2 DTM '00)

CLK-GTR LM Race Car ('98)

E55 AMG ('02)

SL500 ('98)

SL600 ('98)

SL500 ('02)

SL600 ('04)

SL55 AMG ('02)

SL65 AMG ('04)

SLK230 Kompressor ('98)

SLR McLaren ('03)

MERCURY (U.S.)

Cougar XR-7 ('67)

MG (U.K.)

F ('97)

TF 160 ('03)

MINE'S (Tuner)

Lancer Evolution VI GSR ('00)

Skyline GT-R N1 V-Spec (R34) ('00)

MINI (U.K.)

Cooper 1.3i ('98)

Cooper ('02)

Cooper S ('02)

One ('02)

MITSUBISHI (Japan)

Airtrek Turbo-R ('02)

Colt 1.5 Sport-X Version ('02)

Colt Galant GTO-MR ('70)

CZ-3 Tarmac Concept ('01)

CZ-3 Tarmac Rally Car ('02)

Eclipse GT ('95)

Eclipse Spyder GTS ('03)

FTO GP Version-R ('97)

FTO GP Version-R ('99)

FTO GPX ('94)

FTO GPX ('97)

FTO GPX ('99)

FTO GR ('94)

FTO GR ('97)

FTO Super Touring Car ('97)

Galant 2.0 DOHC VR-4 ('89)

GTO SR ('95)

GTO SR ('96)

GTO SR ('98)

GTO Twin Turbo ('95)

GTO Twin Turbo ('96)

GTO Twin Turbo ('98)

GTO Twin Turbo MR ('95)

GTO Twin Turbo MR ('98)

HSR-II Concept ('89)

i Concept ('03)

Lancer 1600GSR ('73)

Lancer 1600GSR Rally Car ('74)

Lancer EX 1800GSR Intercooler Turbo ('83)

Lancer Evolution GSR ('92)

Lancer Evolution II GSR ('94)

Lancer Evolution III GSR ('95)

Lancer Evolution IV GSR ('96)

Lancer Evolution IV Rally Car ('97)

Lancer Evolution V GSR ('98)

Lancer Evolution VI GSR ('99)

Lancer Evolution VI RS ('99)

Lancer Evolution VI RS Tommi Makinen Edition ('00)

Lancer Evolution VI GSR Tommi Makinen Edition ('00)

Lancer Evolution VI Rally Car ('99)

Lancer Evolution VII RS ('01)

Lancer Evolution VII GSR ('01)

Lancer Evolution VII GT-A ('02)

Lancer Evolution VIII GSR ('03)

Lancer Evolution VIII RS ('03)

Lancer Evolution VIII MR GSR ('04)

Lancer Evolution VIII Super Rally Car ('03)

Legnum VR-4 Type-V ('98)

Minica Dangan ZZ ('89)

Mirage 1400GLX ('78)

Mirage Cyborg ZR ('97)

Pajero Rally Raid (Dakar Rally '85)

Pajero Evolution Rally Raid (Dakar Rally '03)

Starion 4WD Rally Car ('84)

NIKE (?????)

One ('22)

NISSAN (Japan)

(Nismo) 270R (S14) ('94)

(Nismo) 400R (R33) ('96)

(Nismo) Fairlady Z S-Tune Gran Turismo Aero (Z33) ('02)

(Nismo) Fairlady Z Z-Tune (Z33) ('03)

(Nismo) Skyline GT-R S-Tune (R32) ('90)

(Nismo) Skyline GT-R LM Edition (R33) ('95)

(Nismo) Skyline GT-R R-Tune (R34) ('99)

180SX Type-X ('96)

Be-1 ('87)

Bluebird 1600 Deluxe ('69)

Bluebird 1600SSS Rally Car ('69)

Bluebird 1800SSS Hardtop ('79)

Cube X ('98)

Cube EX CVT ('02)

Fairlady 2000 ('68)

Fairlady 240ZG ('71)

Fairlady Z 280Z-L 2-Seater ('78)

Fairlady Z 300ZX (Z31) ('83)

Fairlady Z Twin Turbo 2-seater (Z32) ('89)

Fairlady Z Twin Turbo 2+2 Version-R (Z32) ('98)

Fairlady Z Twin Turbo 2-seater Version-S (Z32) ('98)

Fairlady Z Gran Turismo 4 Edition (Z33) ('05)

Fairlady Z Version S 6MT (Z33) ('02)

Fairlady Z Version ST (Z33) ('02)

Fairlady Z Roadster (Z33) ('03)

Fairlady Z LM Race Car (Z33) ('02)

Fairlady Z (Motul Pitwork JGTC '04)

Fairlady Z (Option Stream Tuner '04)

GT-R Concept ('01)

GT-R LM Edition ('02)

March G# ('99)

March 12C ('03)

mm-R Cup Car ('01)

Pao ('89)

Primera 2.0Te ('90)

Primera 20V ('01)

Pulsar EXA Canopy LA Version Type-S ('88)

R390 GT1 Road Car ('98)

R390 GT1 Race Car (Calsonic LeMans '98)

R89C (Calsonic LeMans '89)

R92CP (Calsonic JSPC '92)

Sileighty ('98)

Silvia ('65)

Silvia 240RS ('83)

Silvia 240RS Rally Car ('85)

Silvia 1800Qs (S13) ('89)

Silvia 1800Ks (S13) ('89)

Silvia 2000Qs (S13) ('91)

Silvia 2000Ks (S13) ('91)

Silvia Q's Aero (S14) ('93)

Silvia K's Aero (S14) ('93)

Silvia Q's Aero (S14) ('96)

Silvia K's Aero (S14) ('96)

Silvia Spec-R Aero (S15) ('99)

Silvia Spec-S Aero (S15) ('99)

Silvia Varietta (S15) ('00)

Silvia (S15) (C-West Razo JGTC '01)

Skyline Sport Coupe ('62)

Skyline 1500 Deluxe ('63)

Skyline 2000 GT-B ('67)

Skyline 2000 GT-R Hardtop Coupe ('70)

Skyline 2000 GT-R ('73)

Skyline 2000 RS-X Type-C (R30) ('84)

Skyline 2000 Turbo-RS (R30) ('83)

Skyline GTS-R (R31) ('87)

Skyline GTS-t Type-M (R32) ('89)

Skyline GTS-t Type-M (R32) ('91)

Skyline GTS25 Type-S (R32) ('91)

Skyline GT-R (R32) ('89)

Skyline GT-R (R32) ('91)

Skyline GT-R N1 (R32) ('91)

Skyline GT-R V-Spec (R32) ('93)

Skyline GT-R V-Spec II (R32) ('94)

Skyline GT-R V-Spec N1 (R32) ('93)

Skyline GT-R (R33) ('95)

Skyline GT-R (R33) ('96)

Skyline GT-R (R33) ('97)

Skyline GT-R N1 (R33) ('95)

Skyline GT-R V-Spec (R33) ('95)

Skyline GT-R V-Spec (R33) ('96)

Skyline GT-R V-Spec (R33) ('97)

Skyline GT-R V-Spec LM Limited (R33) ('96)

Skyline GT-R V-Spec N1 (R33) ('95)

Skyline GT-R (R34) ('99)

Skyline GT-R (R34) ('00)

Skyline GT-R Midnight Purple II (R34) ('99)

Skyline GT-R Midnight Purple III (R34) ('00)

Skyline GT-R M-Spec (R34) ('01)

Skyline GT-R M-Spec Nür (R34) ('02)

Skyline GT-R V-Spec (R34) ('99)

Skyline GT-R V-Spec N1 (R34) ('99)

Skyline GT-R V-Spec II (R34) ('00)

Skyline GT-R V-Spec II N1 (R34) ('00)

Skyline GT-R V-Spec II Nür (R34) ('02)

Skyline GT-R (Gran Turismo Version '01)

Skyline GT-R (Gran Turismo Version Pace Car '01)

Skyline GT-R (Calsonic JGTC '93)

Skyline GT-R (Pennzoil JGTC '99)

Skyline GT-R (Calsonic JGTC '00)

Skyline GT-R (Loctite Zexel JGTC '00)

Skyline GT-R (Pennzoil Zexel JGTC '01)

Skyline GT-R (Xanavi Hiroto JGTC '01)

Skyline GT-R (Xanavi Nismo JGTC '03)

Skyline GT-R (Falken 'Ring 24H '04)

Skyline Sedan 300GT ('01)

Skyline Sedan 350GT-8 ('02)

Skyline Coupe 350GT ('03)

Stagea 260RS Autech Version ('98)

Stagea RS Four-S ('98)

OPEL (Germany)

Astra Touring Car (Opel Team Phoenix DTM '00)

Calibra Touring Car (DTM '94)

Corsa Comfort 1.4 16V ('01)

Speedster ('00)

Speedster Turbo ('00)

Tigra 1.6i ('99)

Vectra 3.2 V6 ('03)

OPERA (Tuner)

350Z ('04)

S2000 ('04)

PAGANI (Italy)

Zonda C12 ('00)

Zonda C12S ('00)

Zonda C12S 7.3 ('02)

Zonda Race Car ('01)

PANOZ (U.S.)

Esperante GTR-1 ('98)

PESCAROLO SPORT (France)

C60-Peugeot (LeMans '03)

C60-Judd (LeMans '04)

PEUGEOT (France)

106 Rallye ('03)

106 S16 ('03)

205 T16 ('85)

205 T16 Rally Car ('85)

205 T16 Evolution II Rally Car ('86)

206 CC ('01)

206 RC ('03)

206 S16 ('99)

206 Rally Car ('99)

307 XSi ('04)

406 3.0 V6 Coupe ('98)

PLYMOUTH (U.S.)

`Cuda 440 Six Pack ('71)

Superbird ('70)

POLYPHONY (Japan)

Formula Gran Turismo ('04)

PONTIAC (U.S.)

GTO 5.7 ('04)

Solstice Concept ('02)

Sunfire GXP Concept ('02)

Tempest LeMans GTO ('64)

Vibe GT ('03)

R.E. AMEMIYA (Tuner)

RX-7 (Aspara Drink JGTC '04)

RENAULT (France)

5 Turbo ('80)

5 Maxi Turbo Rally Car ('85)

Avantime ('02)

Lutecia Sport 2.0 16V ('02)

Lutecia Sport V6 24V ('01)

Lutecia Sport V6 Phase II ('03)

Lutecia Sport V6 24V Race Car ('00)

Megane 2.0IDE Coupe ('00)

Megane 2.0 16V ('02)

RUF (Germany)

3400S ('00)

BTR Type-II ('86)

CTR Yellow Bird ('87)

CTR2 ('96)

R-GT ('00)

SALEEN (U.S.)

S7 ('02)

SEAT (Spain)

Ibiza Cupra ('04)

SHELBY (U.S.)

Cobra 427 ('67)

Mustang GT350R ('65)

Series 1 ('03)

SPOON (Tuner)

Civic Type-R ('00)

Fit Race Car ('03)

Integra Type-R ('99)

S2000 ('00)

S2000 Race Car ('00)

SPYKER (The Netherlands)

C8 Laviolette ('02)

SUBARU (Japan)

360 ('58)

Impreza WRX STi ('94)

Impreza WRX STi Version II ('95)

Impreza WRX STi Version III ('96)

Impreza WRX STi Version IV ('97)

Impreza WRX STi Version V ('98)

Impreza WRX STi Version VI 22B ('98)

Impreza WRX STi Version VI Coupe Type-R ('99)

Impreza WRX STi Version VI Sedan ('99)

Impreza WRX STi Version VI Wagon ('99)

Impreza WRX STi Version VI Rally Car ('99)

Impreza WRX STi Version VII Sedan ('00)

Impreza WRX STi Version VII SportWagon ('00)

Impreza WRX STi Version VII Prodrive Style ('01)

Impreza WRX STi Version VII Rally Car Prototype ('01)

Impreza WRX STi Version VII Rally Car ('01)

Impreza WRX STi Version VII Super Touring Car ('01)

Impreza WRX STi Version VIII Sedan ('02)

Impreza WRX STi Version VIII Sedan Spec-C ('04)

Impreza WRX STi Version VIII Rally Car ('03)

Impreza WRX STi Version VIII (Cusco Advan JGTC '03)

Legacy B4 2.0GT ('03)

Legacy B4 2.0GT Spec-B ('03)

Legacy B4 3.0R ('03)

Legacy B4 Blitzen ('00)

Legacy B4 RSK ('98)

Legacy Touring Wagon GT-B ('96)

Legacy Touring Wagon B4 2.0GT ('03)

Legacy Touring Wagon B4 2.0GT Spec-B ('03)

Legacy Touring Wagon B4 3.0R ('03)

SUZUKI (Japan)

Alto Lapin Turbo 4WD ('02)

Alto Works RS-Z ('97)

Alto Works Sport Limited ('97)

Cappuccino ('91)

Cappuccino ('95)

Concept-S2 ('03)

Escudo Dirt Trial Car ('98)

GSX-R/4 Concept ('01)

Kei Works ('02)

MR Wagon Sports ('04)

Wagon-R RR ('98)

TOM'S (Tuner)

Chaser X540 ('00)

TOMMY KAIRA (Japan)

ZZ-S ('00)

ZZII ('00)

TOYOTA (Japan)

(Modellista) Celica TRD Sports M ('00)

2000GT ('67)

7 (Can-Am '70)

88C-V (Minolta JSPC '89)

Altezza AS200 ('98)

Altezza RS200 ('98)

Altezza Gita AS300 ('01)

Altezza Touring Car ('01)

Aristo 3.0V ('91)

Aristo V300 ('00)

Aristo V300 Vertex Edition ('00)

bB 1.5Z X Version ('00)

Caldina GT-Four ('02)

Carina ED 2.0 X 4WS ('89)

Celica 1600GT ('70)

Celica 2000GT-R ('86)

Celica 2000GT-Four ('86)

Celica GT-Four RC ('91)

Celica GT-Four ('98)

Celica GT-Four Rally Car (ST185) ('95)

Celica GT-Four Rally Car (ST205) ('95)

Celica GT-R 4WS ('91)

Celica SS-II ('97)

Celica SS-II ('99)

Celica XX 2800GT ('81)

Celica (Weds Sport JGTC '03)

Corolla Runx Z Aero Tourer ('02)

Corolla Levin 1600GT Apex ('83)

Corolla Levin BZ-R ('98)

Corolla Rally Car ('98)

GT-One Race Car ('99)

ist 1.5S 2WD ('02)

MR2 1600 G ('86)

MR2 1600 G-Limited Super Charger ('86)

MR2 G-Limited ('97)

MR2 GT-S ('97)

MR-S S Edition ('99)

MR-S V Edition ('02)

MR-S (Autobacs JGTC '00)

Motor Triathlon Race Car ('03)

Prius G ('02)

Prius G Touring ('03)

RSC Concept ('01)

RSC Rally Car ('02)

Sera ('92)

Soarer 2.5GT-T ('97)

Soarer 430SCV ('01)

Sports 800 ('65)

Sprinter Trueno GT-Apex ('83)

Sprinter Trueno GT-Apex Shuichi Shigeno Version ('00)

Sprinter Trueno BZ-R ('98)

Starlet Glanza V ('97)

Supra 2.5GT Twin Turbo-R ('90)

Supra 3.0GT Turbo-A ('88)

Supra RZ ('97)

Supra SZ-R ('97)

Supra (Denso Sard JGTC '00)

Supra (Tom's Castrol JGTC '00)

Supra (Tom's Castrol JGTC '01)

Supra (au Cerumo JGTC '01)

Supra (Esso Ultraflo JGTC '01)

Supra (Tom's WoodOne JGTC '03)

Tacoma X-Runner ('04)

Vitz F ('99)

Vitz RS Turbo ('02)

Vitz RS 1.5 ('00)

Vitz U Eurosports Version ('00)

Voltz S ('02)

WiLL VS ('01)

TRIAL (Tuner)

Celica SS-II Tuning Car ('03)

TRIUMPH (U.K.)

Spitfire 1500 ('74)

TVR (U.K.)

Cerbera Speed Six ('97)

Cerbera Speed 12 ('00)

Griffith 500 ('94)

T350C ('03)

Tamora ('02)

Tuscan Speed Six ('00)

V8S ('91)

VOLKSWAGEN (Germany)

Beetle 1100 Standard ('49)

Bora V6 4MOTION ('01)

Golf I GTi ('76)

Golf IV GTi ('01)

Golf IV R32 ('03)

Golf V GTi ('05)

Karmann Ghia 1500 ('68)

Lupo GTi ('01)

Lupo 1.4 ('02)

Lupo Cup Car ('00)

Lupo GTi Cup Car ('03)

New Beetle 2.0 ('00)

New Beetle RSi ('00)

New Beetle Cup Car ('00)

Polo GTi ('01)

W12 Nardo Concept ('01)

VOLVO (Sweden)

240 GLT Estate ('88)

S60 T-5 Sport ('03)

TOTAL CARS: 711

On top of this, there are another 10 cars added to the PAL version including the Alfa GT, Audi Nuvolari concept, HPA Motorsports Golf R32, Auto Union V16 Streamliner, Chapparal 2J and Peugeot 905. I'll be putting the game on order very soon, lol.

[tylerdurden]

wow that is an impressive list! i see that there's loads of nissan skylines and mitsubshi evo's to keep me happy for a few hours. in all of the previous gran turismo games i have always love the driving tests, i have got gold on all tests on gt4 prologue (only took me 3 days).

[Lordcroker]

Now thats a good list of cars, but Model T Ford? [:0]

I also think that the Triumph spewfire and VW Beetle are a bit of a waste of time, unless they're on there to demonstrate just how badly a car can handle []

I think that an MGB would be much more popular, or indeed a Healey 3000 (which was photographed, but seemingly didn't make it into the game)

I look forward to driving the Volvo 240 estate (the worlds best track day car) and also the Delorean.

Will I go back to the start of the race though if I hit 88mph in it?[8D]

[Wireless]

A friend of mine has the Japan NTSC version to play on his Japan spec PS2. Sorry to say guys, but this chap is a veteran of previous GT games and says that GT4 is not all it's craked up to be. His notes from the game... :

Nothing new in the gameplay department worth mentioning. They have added this insipid pointless mode called B-spec where you have the computer(?) drive your car and you manage what it does during the race(!). Its pretty unintelligible and boring. But the worst thing, and completely 100% pointless is this photospec mode...its a racing game FFS...really cross about this and it would have taken them a long time to code this, instead they should have concentrated on making the game better(as i think it has some serious flaws)

Absolute joke but yes you cant play memory card battles....

Better than GT3, but not head and shoulders above it imho.

I hate to say this though. I love the game but am seriously seriously disappointed. These devs, though are obviously gifted and have worked very hard, have really cut corners.

Its the stupid inaccuracies, like driving a "manual" mercedes SL65. Or driving cars which would never ever have traction control and anti spin devices, but these always come as standard!

The AI is no different from the last game, and it was poor in the last one.

The engine sounds are horrifically and laughably poor,

Graphics are worse, the amount of graphical glitches is horrendous. 2 Player mode is almost unplayable as when one person goes off and hits a wall the screen will shake and blur. Fine, but this also happens to the other person, who hasnt gone off...who subsequently will go off, as mid corner the screen becomes blurred!

I was looking forward to this game hugely but am overall underwhelmed-maybe my expectations were too high. It is a good game, just not as good as it should be.

Roll on GT5 and PS3!

[mr_pushrod]

Not sounding too promising, apparentely there will be changes to make the PAL version a bit harder which could improve things. As for AI I am surprised it is as bad as GT3 as the AI is prologue was a noticable improvement. While photomode does strike me as a massive waste of time, B Spec it would appear does have a use now there are 24 hour races. As much as I like Gran Turismo, the thought of 24 hours non stop (no mid race saving) is one that leaves me cold. B Spec allows you to win the race to further the percentage completion but speeded up time without having to drive.

[Lordcroker]

24 hour races? Now that is insane!!

I have only done 2 or 3 of the endurance races on GT3, one of them 5 times just to get one of the F1 cars.

The others just look too long and boring for my liking, unless you deliberatly enter in an uncompetitive car like a standard 911.

That at least does represent a challenge []

I am glad to see some classics in the game though, but I too find it annoying that these old cars have traction control as standard (although it can be turned off).