what should i buy?

[BuryMetro.No1]

hey all,

in the near future ill have at least 200 quid to spend on a car (buggy or maybe truck) once i have sold my current projects. i haveradio gear, charger and i have been waiting to use my Orion chrom modified 8x2 motor for too long!

i dont have a clue which car to go for. i was thinking of a rc10 b3 as it could take my motor (orion)and go at some speed and has good handling and part are easy to get although how much faster would it be than a tamiya buggy with a reedy 19quad in? i would prefer 2wd as from experiece i have found that run times are much better and they are faster although i do like to drift BUT id rather have 2wd.

i want fun, but i want to race; so fast and i dont want it to be vintage as parts would be too expensive and rare. what are the schumacher XTR 21. like? i dont have a clue about nitro cars although it is supposably fast, any one have one?

any suggestions?

what cars do you have?

i like the look of the blitzer beetle although its a beginner kit,

cheers,

john

[Cul-Tech]

I really have fun Jumping my Stampede, but if you're thinking of racing I'd go with the Associated B4.

Mike[8D]

[nickc]

I recommend the Tamiya TB02, and add some EVO 3 hop-ups, like the upper lower graphite decks, and the EVO 3 aluminium motor mount. Then you essentially got a watered-down EVO 3 which will certainly be a hugely competetive car!

[SJoerD]

Nick, I think it will be slightly cheaper and a lot nicer to buy a TB-evo at first hand. OR buy a TB-02 and keep it pretty much as is. If you are buying many TB-Evo III hop-ups it will in the end be cheaper to buy one of thopse kits instead! [:0]

If you are running for fun, it doesn't really matter if it's a beginners kit... It's cheaper too, so you can buy spare parst for it in case it would break. Or some hop-ups.

[BuryMetro.No1]

come on ppl, im considerign a b3

help me!!!

[AstroVannin(2)]

Sounds like you really want the associated car, so I say go for it althought you will be getting a B4 as the B3 has been discontinued, or if your not going to go hardcore then get an older model off the bay or somthing.

[racegypt]

If you buy an Associated B3 (or a new B4) (either of which are a great idea!) please don't put the 8 turn double into it straight away. Such a shame to bust a new car within the first 30 seconds! Unless you are racing at a very high level, a 17 turn motor will make it balistic. Remember trucks need torque and torque needs turns.

[quik_d]

i got a traxxas rustler, 2wd stadium truck, is a whole lotta fun, wheelies all the time and the suspension is great. Added to the availablity of spares, the slipper cluch which is handy and ball bearings in the transmission as standard and i think its a winner. Like u i like a bit of offroading, not too hectic but its handled everything i threw at it. Its pretty similar to the blitzer i think, but the suspension is tonnes better. A worthy condsideration

quik_d

[quik_d]

by the way does anyone know the differnece between the traxxas rustler and the stampede?

[fury_dice(2)]

quote:Originally posted by quik_d

by the way does anyone know the differnece between the traxxas rustler and the stampede?

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http://www.traxxas.com/products/electric/s...rx_stampede.htm

http://www.traxxas.com/products/electric/r...trx_rustler.htm

HTH. David

[BuryMetro.No1]

i got a traxxas rustler

cool cars although im selling coz im sick of the idle gears going on it![!]

i wouldnt put a 8x2 in straight away, i have a few other motors i may try first! i got a 17x3 and a 14x3 [8D]

what makes you say the 8x2 would bust the car do you mean i will crash or the gears?[8)]

i have been looking at b3s on ebay for some time, i cant afford a new b4 as i just blew my elec speed control. DOH![V]

cheers,

john

p.s. any one have a B3 for sale or TRADE let me know,

for trade i got,

fully restored Bear hawk (you need to see pics - its sexy)

Rustler

Yokomo yz01 in excellent condition.

[][8D]

[The Slayer]

Dyna Storm re-issue [?][?] nice car, or EVo [?]

[BuryMetro.No1]

is the dyna storm a competative car that can take fast motors?

it looks nice though,

john

[The Slayer]

Yup as far as i know [] not sure what the most insane motor you can put in it - it comes with and actopower pink, which i think is a 13t double, not 100% sure of the motor, but it is 95% hopped up already[]..... that is for the re-issue, about £120 or so... they are around still []

[mjohnston39]

Compared to a B4 or a new Losi, the gneral consensus is that the Dynastorm will not be competitive. Not the it is a bad car, just a decade old design that is out classed by newer machines.

Mike.

[The Slayer]

fair enough - not into Turbo Nutter Racing anyway [] it will do me ta very much []

[racegypt]

I should have been more clear earlier. It is always a good idea to run your new vehicle in "mild" form first, to work out it's strengths and weaknesses. If you put an 8x2 in a new kit you will probably hit the first immovable object before you even find out anything about the car's setup. Too many new racers think that putting a Lamboughini engine in a Ford Escort will give them the fastest car on the track. It doesn't work that way. In my club the fastest trucks around the track are stock motored (some even silver can) while the mod boys are all over the place and wheels up most of the time. Our track is technical, but even on a fast track you should fix the handling first using a mild motor, then step by step add more power. Each time you change the motor you may have to mod the suspension setup again. Remember, racing is the fastest laps on a track not the fastest vehicle in a straight line. Go with the T3 or the T4, they are much better looking than the "bug eyes".

PS before buying a "Track's ***", buy an R/C magazine and count how many times you see a Track's *** in the results tables.

[quik_d]

hey metro how are the idle gears breaking? is it a design fault or somehting you are doing. I'm sure you can get stronger ones. i'm only using a 20t motor, i put a pro stock team orion 27T in it the other day and its still quick, but i wanted it to be torquey rather than super fast. you looking for high top speed?

quik

[BuryMetro.No1]

hey racegypt, why do you keep talking bout trucks with 8x2 motors. earlier i said that if i boguht a truck id put a 19x4 in rather than a 8x2 and since i have found out i am not buying a truck and your patronising posts about your race track are of no use to me (sorry). ps. i already have a traxxas truck

im not sure why my rustler keeps breaking down, i think i just need to put alloys gears in instead on skimping but it is an extremely durable car. the plastic on the rustler makes the plastic on tamiyas feel a little brittle.

cheers every body,

john

[mud4fun]

Hi John, I think it would be wise to listen to people who are offering good advise rather than make rude remarks. Raceegypt is quite correct with what he says and he is only confirming more or less what I already told you outside of this club.

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An 8x2 motor is of little use in an off road vehicle whether it be truck or buggy. An 8x2 is far too low a turn motor even for most high spec touring cars let alone an off roader. Unless you plan on running in straight lines up and down an airfield I'd forget it and buy a more suitable motor.

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You'll struggle to find any buggy on the market that is designed to run that motor. Running off road places huge strains on drivetrain that just aren't there on a touring cars and low turn motors don't produce enough torque so the end result is either your battery only lasts a few minutes or you'll burn the motor out along with your ESC etc.

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I too (as I've already told you) would advise a high turn torquey motor as it gives greater control and in the right hands will easily see off lesser drivers running supposedly 'hot' motors. You need to learn to walk before you can run.

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Sure you can dismiss my remarks and those of racegypt but what are you gaining, we offer good advice and you don't want to listen?

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Even if you find a buggy that runs that 8x2 you already stated that you wanted to race, to race you need skill more than speed, you also need a battery/motor combo that will last over 6mins. I have been running RC cars for 20 years and I have yet to see somebody simply stuff a mega hot motor in a car and win a race with it. You may go fast down the straights and maybe you'll do well for a lap or two but when you're battery fades you'll be left standing by the guys running those higher turn motors.

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Please don't take this the wrong way, we are simply offering help and advise which you asked for, just because it isn't what you want to hear doesn't make it useless.

[The Slayer]

What you reckon the lowest is i can use in a Dyna Storm Ian? think it has a 13t double in - but wanna decent run time [?] I can get a nice run time with a Sport tuned in most cars... but bit underpowered in a DS i think....[:I] it has the Acto Pink (I hope) [:I]

quote:Originally posted by mud4fun

Hi John, I think it would be wise to listen to people who are offering good advise rather than make rude remarks. Raceegypt is quite correct with what he says and he is only confirming more or less what I already told you outside of this club. An 8x2 motor is of little use in an off road vehicle whether it be truck or buggy. An 8x2 is far too low a turn motor even for most high spec touring cars let alone an off roader. Unless you plan on running in straight lines up and down an airfield I'd forget it and buy a more suitable motor. You won't find any buggy on the market that is designed to run that motor. Running off road places huge strains on drivetrain that just aren't there on a touring cars and low turn motors don't produce enough torque so the end result is either your battery only lasts a few minutes or you'll burn the motor out along with your ESC etc. I too (as I've already told you) would advise a high turn torquey motor as it gives greater control and in the right hands will easily see off lesser drivers running supposedly 'hot' motors.

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[mud4fun]

LOL, Slayer, trial and error! I went thru so many motors testing my thundershots and eventually found a motor/gearing combo that suioted it and my track. Depends on where your gonna run it too but if you want longer run times then maybe try that 'reedy 19 spec' or similar, gives a good compromise between speed and runtime. Relatively cheap too, especially if you're broke [][] or simply use a technigold......[]

[The Slayer]

Cant afford a Technigold... unless you have a spare cheapy [] The choices, 540 Silver stock... black Sport Tuned... Acto Pink... thats it [][8)] will be running on road, or off at meets as and when..

[DJTheo]

On road?[8)] Why don't you better use a tourer for that, it would never perform as good and a waste for those spike tires.

Why don't you try it with the Acto with which it is sold, Tamiya must have though of something []

For long fun bashing, you could put your Sport Tuned, but that and especially the stock 540 would be a bit too few for such a high tech runner. I will use the Acto in mine [8D]

Cheers

[mud4fun]

quote:it would never perform as good and a waste for those spike tires

id="quote">id="quote"> Oh how true that is, I can wear a set of pin spikes out in 10mins on tarmac, they don't give very good grip either on hard surfaces but great fun.....you can do donuts without trying.....and power slides everywhere......don't actually spend much time going forwards though [:I][]