Hello to everyone at Tamiya Club

[Revival]

Hi everyone

Just like to introduce myself before starting any posting in the forum. If this thread is not in the correct place, I like the moderators to move it to the correct message board. Thanks...[]

I am from Singapore and its been like 20 years ago since I touched a RC car.....It is because my son recently gotten a tamiya QD last Christmas and to have some fun with him I bought myself a Skyline TB02......after having so much fun with it.....a second NSX TB02 came along the way......[]

Specs for both are:

Stock Motor Type R

Evo 3 One way

Evo 3 Lighten ball diff.

Evo 3 Aluminum racing steering rack

Stablisers

Aluminum motor mount

Carbon damper stays

Aluminum upper mount

TRF Dampers

Front drive shaft

titan turn buckles

aluminum wheel hub

SSG Carbon Tub reinforcement

Gear: Spur 55T Pinion 22T (I think....)

Front Toe out: +1.5

Rear Toe in: -2

Front Camber: -1

Rear Camber: -2

Ride Height: 6.5

Currently building a Twin Deternator for some off road bashing......[]...Waiting for a TRF415 but I think its going to be super expensive......[:I]

[madman]

so i take it you would recommend the TB02?

[SJoerD]

Welcome to the club, and it sem you have some very nice spec TB-02's there, nice! Don't worry, this hobby will be expensive even if you try hard to keep the wallet shut. I know, but many other know even better! [8)]

What RC cars were you using back then, 20 years ago? I think that would be interresting to know about... []

[Revival]

For the price that it is yes......but if one is going to hop it all the way to competitive level, then perhaps if the Evo 3, if it is still available it would be better choice.

If its not then the TRF415 may be worth the wait as its just around the corner.....I guess it all boils down to budget and preference........

For me, the Evo 3 is no longer available and my preference is still for shaft drive rather than belt........soooooo for me, even with the hop-ups cost, its a great shaft car to have that can be very competitive.

[Revival]

Hi Sjoerd

Thanks for the welcome.......[].....yup it started out cheap until I went down to the local track and got creamed.......then the thrist for power and handling blows the budget skyhigh.......Whahahahhhhaa

Gosh I cannot remember what brand it was (Kyosho I think.....) but all I know its a nitro

[SJoerD]

You used to go nitro? Don't you consider buying a nice nitro car in stead of the TRF415? Don't get me wrong, I prefer the electric cars, because of their easier maintance and cheaper parts and 'fuel' - strictly personally though. [8D]

[Revival]

Too much noise and where I am living and playing RC, it may be too noisy for the neighbourhood......plus its messy and more maintainence....

[Sisi-driver]

Hi Revival, welcome.

Maybe a little bit off topic, but I am driving the TT01 chassis and offcourse I keep an eye on other chassis but I wonder.

When I drive my car on the parkinglot, after an hour its rather dirty. Sand,little stones etc.

The TRF415 is completely open, in the TT01 the engine for instance is covered, no sand can come between the spur gears.

If I look at the EvoIII on this picture http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/492...3/tb_evo3_5.htm

One can imagine what happens when a little stone crashes between the parts....

How do people with those chassis handle this?

[SJoerD]

Those racing cars are often used indoors and on very clean track. The parking lot you run on is really dirty compared to a really clean surface. []

Belt drive cars suffer the most from this, as stones can get into the belts - whcih are the weakest poitn of the driveline... [V]

[Sisi-driver]

quote:Originally posted by Sjoerd

Those racing cars are often used indoors and on very clean track. The parking lot you run on is really dirty compared to a really clean surface. []

Belt drive cars suffer the most from this, as stones can get into the belts - whcih are the weakest poitn of the driveline... [V]

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I think really clean surfaces are hard to find besides the clean circuits.

I stick with my TT01 for now, I am mostly a outdoor driver and the nearest circuit is in Eindhoven.... I think the TRF415 is a briljant looking chassis but a drama for outdoor driving(parkinglot) imho.

[Revival]

Hi SiSi-Driver

Thanks for the welcome

I guess that is the price to pay for when playing in an open car-park.....[]...for the TT01, the way that the motor is placed is good as the motor gasket prevents stuff for flying into the drive gear.

However for the TB02, one of the bigest weak point is that if one is using the aluminum motor mount, somehow there is a small gap that if one is unlucky, a very small stone grain could still get in and the horrible 'Grrrrrrrrrrr' sound will soon follow.

I will agree with you that its best to avoid chassis without drive gear covering in an open car park......

[Revival]

Hi Sjoerd

Agreed....but the strange thing is that HPI's current 1/10 off road is a belt drive........

Did you happened to see their coming Pro4 shaft racing chassis?....looks like a hybrid between a Evo3 and the TRF415......[]

[SJoerD]

Those belt drive cars often have undercowls were the body mounts on with Velcro. I have seen a Kyosho Lazer ZX-R in action once (4WD belt drive buggy), which also is sealed like this. There's no dirt or gravel comming in the drivetrain whatsoever! [:0]

On for example the TA-04, the belts are pretty exposed, so you want a clean track. Dust is ok, but gravel is a no-no. []

[Sisi-driver]

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I guess that is the price to pay for when playing in an open car-park........for the TT01, the way that the motor is placed is good as the motor gasket prevents stuff for flying into the drive gear.

However for the TB02, one of the bigest weak point is that if one is using the aluminum motor mount, somehow there is a small gap that if one is unlucky, a very small stone grain could still get in and the horrible 'Grrrrrrrrrrr' sound will soon follow.

I will agree with you that its best to avoid chassis without drive gear covering in an open car park......

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Is it a wrong thought that the more expensive chassis lack dirt-protection because they are mainly driven on clean surfaces by experts in competitions and not by fun-drivers?

And because they are used in competitions every weight is dropped (covers etc.)?

I am happy with the TT01 chassis, it can be seriously tuned-up by Hop-ups etc. easy to clean.