Re issue SS - i wish!!

[Tammygirl]

Does anyone on here know if Tamiya are ever going to re-issue the SS - as the things are so dammned expensive, its the only way i am getting one - unless i winn Lotto []  there is a lovely NIB on e-bay at present in theUK - anyone got a spare £1,500 or so lying around!! []

Carolyn [A]

[Shodog]

Never in a million years

[terry.sc]

Depends if you want a NIB or new built one or something to actually

run. After all if you spent £1500 on a NIB one you wouldn't want to

build it.

Runners can be found complete for £100-150 or even less if they need

some work. Spares are easy to get hold of these days as there are

several ebayers dismantling complete cars and selling the parts.

I think the time of rereleases is over now. Quote from the Daily Yomiuri last year:

In

December, Tamiya will release the final sets of both the classic RC

cars and mini yonku. In spring, the company is set to unveil a new

lineup of RC cars. The toy manufacturer is planning to market the new

products as "much better than the existing models" and target the two

generations of fans whose hearts it has won with the retro series.

Seems to be coming true with the release of the dark Impact, Tamtech Gear Frog and the new F-350

[MikeT]

TammyGirl, if your after a runner, shoot me an email; 22b.mike@gmail.com.

Yeah, i'm not too bothered about a Re-Re SS, it wouldn't be the same IMHO, and if the new cars have as much character as the old ones, who cares?

I don't was Nat winning cars, i want cars that are FUN to drive, on power understeer, lift off oversteer , it's all great.

BTW, do you mean the £1,350 NIB with a Black Bumper?

 

Mike

[Wandy]

It's a bit early in the year to be concluding whether the re-release blitz has come to an end or not. However if by the end of the year we have seen no more vintage kits then this might suggest that there will not be another batch for a while again...if ever. It's still quite likely that the odd oldie will get the re-re treatment from time to time though, but lets wait  till the end of the year to see what happens in the current climate.

[Tammygirl]

Yep thats the one!!! right outta my league [:@] if it was £10.35 might be in with a shot!!!

Carolyn [A]

[Tamiya King]

I think the Re Re will come to an end soon. It makes sense. Think about it. Most people that are buying these are people like us. But I garantee there is a far better market with the Dark Impact and far better profits to be made. I agree with tamiya sparking the interest in us old timers, then bringing out the juice, as in new buggies with that old flare to them! (Dark Impact, F350, and TamTech)

I as anyone would love to see the old Wild Ones, Fav and SRB's, but I think Tamiya will never get that realistic again for the buggies, but I do believe they are going to be doing more race worthy buggies. I just can't wait to see if a FRP chassis conversion come out for my Dark Impact! That will be cool! []

[Corpse Thrower]

A re-re of a SS or any other SRB will be the only chance for any of us to actually build one of these new out of the box again. I for one would really love to be able to do that.

The new buggies (even the dark impact) just don't do it for me, although I may be tempted by that F-350....but thats the only one. All the new buggies just seem to abstract, and the realism that made the buggies of the past so great is gone.

[Bigwheels_inc]

Wwith the recent quetionaires tamiya has been putting out on tamiya usa such as what was your first car etc (the grasshopper won by miles)and then a reissue grasshopper apeared (the hornet was also on the list) i'm sure if tamiya saw enough intrest in a reissue sand scorcher they would bring out some sort of srb

although everybody says the metal parts would cost to much to produce the other parts of the srb are very cheap to produce so it would work out at alot less than the new 3 speed

maybe we should ALL email tamiya and ask if there is going to be a reissue of the sand scorcher with 15,000 odd people asking they would see theres an intrest in it (even if your not into srb's it would help in future for tamiya to realise theres a whole group of people out there that know what they want)

you never know what will happen if we dont try  

i sure would like to own a sand scorcher but i cant afford one

Pete

[MikeT]

I as anyone would love to see the old Wild Ones, Fav and SRB's, but I think Tamiya will never get that realistic again for the buggies, but I do believe they are going to be doing more race worthy buggies. I just can't wait to see if a FRP chassis conversion come out for my Dark Impact! That will be cool! []

True Dave, the also have to think about the new people to the hobbby, can you put a 7x2 in a FAV and launch it down stairs? Didn't think so, they need to build cars that can take some abuse too.

The SS is a fairly rugged construction, let down by the cheese front axles ( the bit that the arms grub-screw onto )

[terry.sc]

The SS is a fairly rugged construction, let down by the cheese front axles ( the bit that the arms grub-screw onto )

Rugged apart from:

Weak front bumper which breaks at front of chassis

Soft, easily bent front pivot pins

Front uprights that fall out of the trailing arms as soon as they are slightly worn

2mm steering links that bend

Dodgy servo saver

Too flexible chassis that breaks the radio box the first time you go over a big jump

Chassis flexing is also the most common way of breaking a Rough Riders roof

Plastic rear guard that breaks at rear fixing points.

Alloy rear arms that bend or break when you hit something with the rear

wheels - at least nylon versions would bend then spring back.

Brass universals that wear horrendously fast.

Most of these were fixed in the Super Champ, but still highly unlikely to survive any modern R/Cer.

[terry.sc]

maybe we should ALL email tamiya and ask

if there is going to be a reissue of the sand scorcher with 15,000 odd

people asking they would see theres an interest in it (even if your not

into srb's it would help in future for tamiya to realise theres a whole

group of people out there that know what they want)

15000 TC members, most of those aren't likely to buy a new SRB kit. For

example I wouldn't buy a rerelease as I already have a runner and if

you are used to modern cars they are definitely a bit of a

disappointment handling wise. I would prefer to spend my money on Tamiyas newer releases. Assuming you get a couple of thousand

people to write that is nowhere near enough people to convince Tamiya.

The cars that were most popular in Tamiyas various surveys (including

the Thundershot!?!) have already been rereleased. If you assume Tamiya

could get a licence to make the Beetle shell I think you are more

likely to see a Monster Beetle before a Scorcher, the Monster Beetle is much more popular and they would sell a whole lot more.

[Tammygirl]

Cant afford onew of those either [:$] yeah but  the chance to build a NIB Champ, Scorchie, Rough Rider.... 959, now come on who couldnt resist that!!! []

Carolyn [A]

[Shodog]

Cant afford onew of those either [:$] yeah but  the chance to build a NIB Champ, Scorchie, Rough Rider.... 959, now come on who couldnt resist that!!! []

Carolyn [A]

 

I have resisted the urge to buil my scorcher for a few years now.  there are plenty of mint and new built examples out there to satisfy the urge to have one on the shelf.

[Bigwheels_inc]

The cars that were most popular in Tamiyas various surveys (including the Thundershot!?!) have already been rereleased. If you assume Tamiya could get a licence to make the Beetle shell I think you are more likely to see a Monster Beetle before a Scorcher, the Monster Beetle is much more popular and they would sell a whole lot more.

The srb's sure were easy to break and a monster beetle would be alot more popular and prob sell alot more than the srb's and as i said in another forum nearly all the parts to build the monster beetle are now being made or have just stopped production and are still easily availible so were alot more likely to see the monster beetle than a blackfoot or srb

the main problem with tamiya is for a long while they didnt make any good performance buggys alot of fun buggys but nothing realy competitive hopefully with the dark impact and the buggys comming in the new year we will see more competitive buggys and cars from tamiya

Pete

[MikeT]

The SS is a fairly rugged construction, let down by the cheese front axles ( the bit that the arms grub-screw onto )

Rugged apart from:

Weak front bumper which breaks at front of chassis

Soft, easily bent front pivot pins

Front uprights that fall out of the trailing arms as soon as they are slightly worn

2mm steering links that bend

Dodgy servo saver

Too flexible chassis that breaks the radio box the first time you go over a big jump

Chassis flexing is also the most common way of breaking a Rough Riders roof

Plastic rear guard that breaks at rear fixing points.

Alloy rear arms that bend or break when you hit something with the rear wheels - at least nylon versions would bend then spring back.

Brass universals that wear horrendously fast.

Most of these were fixed in the Super Champ, but still highly unlikely to survive any modern R/Cer.

Rugged apart from:

Weak front bumper which breaks at front of chassis

Not Running One ATM.

Soft, easily bent front pivot pins

Yup, Definately.

Front uprights that fall out of the trailing arms as soon as they are slightly worn

What bit wears? Ball or Cup?

2mm steering links that bend

Hmm, fair enough.

Dodgy servo saver

Direct Steering

Too flexible chassis that breaks the radio box the first time you go over a big jump

Twinset Ali Chassis, and No Radio-Box.

Chassis flexing is also the most common way of breaking a Rough Riders roof

Mines a SS

Plastic rear guard that breaks at rear fixing points.

CRP Alloy Cage

Alloy rear arms that bend or break when you hit something with the rear wheels - at least nylon versions would bend then spring back.

No Trouble So Far?

Brass universals that wear horrendously fast.

No Trouble So Far?

Seems Like i've managed to address the problem areas on the SRB Chassis then

 

Mike

[terry.sc]

Mike, as your list shows you don't have a standard SRB. Back then

spending time sorting out the problems was part of the fun of racing,

these days no one would buy anything that needed as many upgraded parts

as yours has. CRP and others made replacements for just about anything

that would break/bend/fall off the SRBs, those companies aren't around

anymore as modern cars don't need loads of parts fitting just to keep

them running for 5 minutes. Well, except for Associateds B4 without a

hinge pin brace[].

Re: front uprights. The cups wear first, over time the balls wear as

well. This is why the Super Champ has tie wraps around the trailing

arms to keep them together.

[Tammygirl]

Back in 1982 - ish i was the proud owner of a RR - rolled it loads of times, as far as i can remember nothing ever broke, bearing in mind i am not a skilled RC driver either [:$]  after yesterdays run i am getting better [A]

Its just the feeling of building a NIB kit that appeals to me - ANY KIT but unless they reissue SRB's it aint gonna happen....  Hang on - they reissued the XR311, wouldnt have thought that was the most loved of Tamiyas, they could mould the meatal parts outta plastic - surely, after all these are for Driving not looking at... (open can of worms and run) oh well i will keep trying the Lotto!! []

Carolyn

PS Mike T - way outta my price league!! nice tho!!

[MikeT]

Yeah, mines far from stock, but IT's MINE, How many 15 Y/O's like the SRB's?

Thanks Carolyn

 

Mike

[Live Steam Mad]

OK as Mike T. well knows, I am one of those Nuts that wants to see T. re-re the Sand Scorcher EXACTLY like the originals with NO alterations of ANY kind. I am an ENTHUSIAST, NOT a collector [huge gasps of shock from the some sections of the Vintage crowd out there who only buy these cars for their collection to put in a glass case or who buy them as investments!!!].

I know how I would feel if I was able to get a Hilux, XLT, SS and RR all re-re'd and NIB, and reproduced perfectly just like the originals. Insanely Happy []

All from Stella in HK for 130 GBP a piece. Coooorrrrrr, Lovely.

I was actually thinking about this very much recently since Winter 2006 will be the 25th Anniversary of the release of the Hilux and the XLT. If they re-re'd the XLT EXACTLY like the original then I would be ludicrously happy and THEY WOULD SELL LIKE HOT CAKES to the Vintage crowd here on TC, IMHO. Also then there would be SRB spares by the bucket load for the SS chassis.

Just my humble thoughts.

Cheers,

Alistair G.

[theshopkeeper]

The rumour doing the rounds that I heard was that the re-issues have now given way to "new technology" releases - Dark Impact, the new 3 speed, Tamtech etc etc.  There's only so many re-runs that people will buy after all... the Hornet & Lunchbox were very popular, but the rest less so.

(I suspect the Monster Beetle will be the only likely one to make an appearance still - but given the Pumpkin is now a "1950's style pickup" not a Ford, it'll probably have to be called the "Monster 1930's style German Peoples Car"[:'(]

[Birdy]

believe me the germans didnt have such a car in 1930..[]

my guess would rather be 1970 german&american hybrid monster style versatile stunt vehicle..

cheers birdy

[T.C~Tamiya]

believe me the germans didnt have such a car in 1930..[]

Not quite a Monster Beetle but in 1942 there was of course the Type 87 "Kommandeurswagen" with big tyres and 4WD.

 

[T.C~Tamiya]

Photoshop's great fun isn't it []

 

[Bigwheels_inc]

or they could just call it the monster baja bug (no vw inplications) and the only part they would have to change is the vw badge as vw did not make a baja beetle so then there would be no copy right problems (just like with the pumpkin chrome edition)

cool

pete