TXT-1 vs Juggernaut - Axles & Tranny. Questions.

[backtomyroots]

TXT vs Juggernaut 2 axles :

Q.  Are the output shafts the same size ?

TXT vs Juggernaut 2 Center Tranny:

Q.  Are the output shafts the same size ?

TXT vs Juggernaut 2 Driveshafts:

Q.  Are they the same size/length ? 

Could I transplant the Jugg 2 drivetrain into the txt-1 ?

What are the differences ? 

Thanks in advance !

 

 

 

[Backlash]

On the Jugg 1 & 2, the output shaft on the gearbox (centre Tranny) and the input shaft on the axles are 5mm diameter.

On the TXT, the gerbox output and axle input shafts are 6mm diameter. The centre section of the TXT shafts are still 5mm diameter though (same as the Juggy shafts).

The TXT shafts are also longer than the Jugg shafts.

You could put a Juggy gearbox (tranny) into a TXT, but you will have to get a little creative with the shafts. The shafts have 2 parts, a UNI (universal) Joint, and a slider Uni and axle combination.

The easiest (and cheapest) thing to do, is attach the TXT slider part of the shaft to the axle, and use the 5mm UNI joint from a Jugg on the other end of the shaft where it attaches to the Jugg Gearbox.

If you cant find Jugg uni's, I beleive the ones used on the XC's and CC's will work, as will (dare I say it) the uni's from the SRB range, as well as the Wild Willy M38, Willys Wheeler and Opel Oscona / Audi Quattro cars. Honestly, your best bet would be a set from a Super Champ, as these were made from steel (not Brass like all the others) and will last a lot longer.

The only other option would be to scratch build some new shafts using either Traxxas (T/E Maxx) or HPI Savage sliders.

[mymonsterbeetleisbroken]

The txt-1 also has 2 grub screws per shaft end (one each side of the output shaft, the output shafts therefore have two flats)

I'm not sure you should combine the txt-1 slider end with the jugg2 output shafts. the difference in shaft diameter and the single grub screw means the joint will attach slightly off center.  

 

[backtomyroots]

Thanks fellas - I'll just start saving for another TXT--1. I'll make it easy on myself [].

[Backlash]

The txt-1 also has 2 grub screws per shaft end (one each side of the output shaft, the output shafts therefore have two flats)

I'm not sure you should combine the txt-1 slider end with the jugg2 output shafts. the difference in shaft diameter and the single grub screw means the joint will attach slightly off center.

Yes, the OUTER ends (ie. Where they join to the Gearbox and Axle) of the TXT shafts have 2 Grubscrews. These shafts are also 6mm in diameter.

HOWEVER, The shaft in the centre of the TXT shafts is 5mm dia, (just like the Jugg shaft), and the part of the TXT UNI that connects to this shaft is also 5mm and ONLY has 1 grubscrew (again, just like the Jugg).

Lets walk it through. The 6mm input from the TXT axle will join to the 6mm end of the TXT "slider end of the shaft, and the 2x grubscrews will lock it tight. Then on the other end of the standard TXT 5mm shaft, we put a 5mm jugg uni, using only 1 grubscrew (keep in mind that the standard TXT uni only uses 1 grubscrew here as well). Then we attach the other side of the 5mm Jugg uni to the output of the jugg gearbox, and attach it with the usual single grubscrew just like the factory intended.

So please explain to me "HOW can the "joint" attach slightly off center"????

 Backtomyroots, Just to prove that my theory is sound, I pulled a shaft from my jugg, and one from my TXT and made the uni swap as I suggested. It did work.

What exactly are you trying to do...??

[backtomyroots]

Backlash:

Basically, I was going to get my hands on the Jugg 2 axles/Center gearbox.  Then add them to a txt carbon fiber chassis.  But, once you add the cost of links, new G-Parts (top of axles), driveshafts, hardware etc, it'll be more economical to just buy a txt-1 use what I need sell the rest. And much easier !  Thanks chaps. 

[Backlash]

Sorry, my misunderstanding.

 I just thought you were trying to fit a Jugg gearbox to a TXT. It wasnt until I re-read your initial post and then your reply that I started to wonder what you were doing.

Goodluck. I cant wait to see it when its finished.

[mymonsterbeetleisbroken]

Yes, the OUTER ends (ie. Where they join to the Gearbox and Axle) of the TXT shafts have 2 Grubscrews. These shafts are also 6mm in diameter.

HOWEVER, The shaft in the centre of the TXT shafts is 5mm dia, (just like the Jugg shaft), and the part of the TXT UNI that connects to this shaft is also 5mm and ONLY has 1 grubscrew (again, just like the Jugg).

 

So please explain to me "HOW can the "joint" attach slightly off center"????

Sorry but i was talking about the ends of the drive shafts connecting to the gearbox and axle output shafts.

If you connected a txt-1 universal shaft to the 5mm gearbox/axle output shaft of a juggernaut2, it would attach off centre due to the difference in diameter.

I never thought of taking the complete drive shaft appart and combining the juggernaut universal joint with the txt-1 universal joint, but yes that does work as the shaft diameter and flat is the same on both.

txt-1 drive shafts are longer though due to the trucks longer wheelbase.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[backtomyroots]

Sorry, my misunderstanding.

 I just thought you were trying to fit a Jugg gearbox to a TXT. It wasnt until I re-read your initial post and then your reply that I started to wonder what you were doing.

Goodluck. I cant wait to see it when its finished.

That too. I have a alloy polished Jugg Center Tranny.  But now it's just going to go up for sale - I'm going to stick with a stock txt gearbox & axles.  Just to keep things easy.  Thanks fellas.