Mega Nib Collectors

[Singapore_959]

There are a few, and the number seems to be growing, collectors appearing on TC who have got every Tamiya NIB.

I am talking about those with 150 plus in series NIBs, and ...

who make no effort to add any sharing of passion or knowledge to TC. At all.

They are spread globally (Switzerland, HK, and elsewhere) so it is not a cultural style thing.

Personally I don't enjoy seeing these showrooms with zero contribution to the fun and knowledge of the club.

I am not having a poke at specific members, but I am saying the idea and spirit of TC is to share a passion expressively - so could collectors of this type at least show a bit of passion somewhere - personal page, forum, etc?

How do you feel about this?

[Tamiyabigstuff]

There are a few, and the number seems to be growing, collectors appearing on TC who have got every Tamiya NIB.

I am talking about those with 150 plus in series NIBs, and ...

who make no effort to add any sharing of passion or knowledge to TC. At all.

They are spread globally (Switzerland, HK, and elsewhere) so it is not a cultural style thing.

Personally I don't enjoy seeing these showrooms with zero contribution to the fun and knowledge of the club.

I am not having a poke at specific members, but I am saying the idea and spirit of TC is to share a passion expressively - so could collectors of this type at least show a bit of passion somewhere - personal page, forum, etc?

How do you feel about this?

If these collectors don't feel up to building them I'm sure there will be no shortage of willing volunteers

[TWINSET]

I don't really think you can impose passion restrictions

Everyone is different, and without knowing what lengths people have gone to, in order to amass their collections, it's kinda difficult to gauge their passion or level of commitment - not that anyone here is qualified to judge on either.

Also, there is no obligation for anyone to make any contribution whatsoever, they've paid their subs and can run their showrooms as they please.

Perhaps 'they' are happy to let their collections do the talking

[infernox]

There are a few, and the number seems to be growing, collectors appearing on TC who have got every Tamiya NIB.

I am talking about those with 150 plus in series NIBs, and ...

who make no effort to add any sharing of passion or knowledge to TC. At all.

They are spread globally (Switzerland, HK, and elsewhere) so it is not a cultural style thing.

Personally I don't enjoy seeing these showrooms with zero contribution to the fun and knowledge of the club.

I am not having a poke at specific members, but I am saying the idea and spirit of TC is to share a passion expressively - so could collectors of this type at least show a bit of passion somewhere - personal page, forum, etc?

How do you feel about this?

i think its fine, it means that the models will be held for the collecters of tomorow.

we post and i think thats fine. we are enough who give our info online and in this forum.

you aint gonna stop them, and ive personally started collecting all the models i can NIB (although i only have one so far )

ill still buy runners aswell and give my info as much as possible.

[TamiyaMan]

My country is one of the youngest on the planet for sure at just over 300 years - but our guiding principle has been to encourage all walks of life and differences in the way each and every one of us choose to live it and think about it. Take a stroll down broadway in NYC and you'll see what I mean. Or another way of saying it - all are welcome as long as they don't try to impose their opinions and own principles on others - liberty and independent thought over state run anything. That's the intent anyway - we've had to cut back a bit on our liberty obviously lately due to an unfortunate uneducated few who wish harm to others for reasons we all know and really have no place on this board.....but ANYWAY:

So I guess simply put - anyone who recognizes the genius, uniqeness, and collectability of Tamiya to even find this site or appreciates the models or company in any way is OK WITH ME and I WELCOME THEM ANYTIME and ANYWHERE with MUCH ENTHUSIASM. Make the hobby and this site whatever you want it to be FOR YOU and have fun with our great hobby any which way you choose.

[Singapore_959]

I don't mean restrictions. I mean a simple caption once in while by a showroom entry - gee this was a cow to get. Found in my sister in laws attic etc.

Showroom entries without text might as well be just a link to the reference section instead.

It's not a lingo thing either - I like it. Hard to find. Paid silly. are not hard to write - if you can join TC you understand enough english.

It's not a rant! It's just BORING to see empty showrooms of just NIB.

[Singapore_959]

My country is one of the youngest on the planet for sure at just over 300 years....

East Timor? Taiwan? Kosovo? lol just joking.

I am guessing you mean the US?

[TWINSET]

It's just BORING to see empty showrooms of just NIB.

It takes all sorts

I tried collecting NIBs and couldn't so I know what you're getting at (or at least your opinion on the matter) but if you had 300 NIBs uploaded today with 'got cheap off ebay' on all of them, would that be any more interesting?

Just count yourself lucky you weren't about when this lot went up;

Don't Click Here, It'll Make You Mental

[Singapore_959]

It takes all sorts

I tried collecting NIBs and couldn't so I know what you're getting at (or at least your opinion on the matter) but if you had 300 NIBs uploaded today with 'got cheap off ebay' on all of them, would that be any more interesting?

Just count yourself lucky you weren't about when this lot went up;

Don't Click Here, It'll Make You Mental

hahahaha, at least now I know why he was getting on my case a bit above now, lol

A good example of what I mean though about NIBs with no captions may as well be a link to the reference section.

BUT in Tamiyamans case he is clearly not the case as:

"

been in the hobby 27 years, own my own hobby store, have like 400 tamiya cars trying to get at least one of each, been collecting tamiya cars for about 18 years, had a tamiya king hauler bring my wedding rings to the alter at my wedding, met my wife in a hobby shop, took her to a tamiya race on our first date............. "

Is truely a fun entry on his main page. Good stuff! I like the story!

If we ever see a similar whole lot loaded up with only the works 'got cheap of ebay' then at least we laugh and politely ALL 22,000 of us send in showroom comments of "liar" ! lol !!

[Mad Ax]

I think what this boils down to is pictures of stuff in the TC showrooms with no description whatsoever.

Personally I like to read owner's comments about items in their collection - things like where it was found, if it was a bargain, lucky find, or something chased for ages; whether it will stay in the box, be built, or be used to trade for something more dear to the collector, why this particular model and what memories it brings... I just like to read about stuff I guess, rather than to look at a picture of yet another NIB model with no text next to it. But each to their own, I don't think there should be rules about what must be written in the entry.

Also this doesn't apply just to NIB collectors - if you have a particular custom model, I like to know what it's made of, how much was done by hand and how much was outsourced, what it roughly cost, how long it took, and why it was made that way. Same with new builds and runners - is it used for racing, or for jumps or stunts, or for showing off in the park? I always enjoy reading the showroom entries (when I have time) written by people who give a good description of what it's about; if there's no text I just have a quick glance at the pics then hit the Back button.

Obviously I appreciate that not everyone speaks good English or enjoys writing long long passages about stuff, so this is not a complaint at anyone. I just like to see some "thought" in a TC entry rather than just a few pictures.

[WillyChang]

umm... ever considered....

There will come a point, way before one is labelled a uber mega collector, that

one just can't remember anymore where/how/why/howmuch about each individual item?

Methink that point is around 50ish vehicles depending on state of senility.

[Tamiya1/10]

I have no problem with anyone "sharing" his/her collection with the rest of us. I appreciate it. We all are different...some of us like to run it like there is not tomorrow (runners); some like to built it and customize it to the hill (fussion hobbist); some just like to built it and look at it(shell queen) ; and some just like it in the box (collector/speculator?). .Maybe to a certain extend, we are control by how much money and time we have. For me, if money and time is not an issue I would likely buy 2 of every Tamiya kit that I like; built a show room in my house or business like fellow member Hong Kong; have a private track like Stefan 2; and customize my built like Dee Miller. But most of us are limited to either time and money or both hence we only have a few models to work or play with.

For members just only showing old NIB, I like seeing how Tamiya does it packaging where the parts are all nicely lay out, blown wrapped almost like a mini show room.

As for the Mega Nib Collector, I sure would like to visit his show room full of shelf queens. Is like Tamiya relocated part of it head office here.

What gets me is members writing, seems like, a 10 page 3000 words essays and I just have no patience reading the whole thing. I like to keep things short and concise... I think I am already writing too much here....

[markbt73]

If people want to collect a bunch of dusty cardboard boxes full of bits of plastic and metal, that's fine. I'd rather tinker with toy cars. There is no way any kit will ever stay new-in-box in my possession. I don't care if it's the only one left; it'll get built, and run, and probably broken and fixed. Because a NIB kit isn't an RC car; it is everything to make an RC car, and I love building kits and driving RC cars. I couldn't care less about cardboard boxes. But hey, to each their own.

What does annoy me is when I see something like "This is my 3rd NIB of this model" on a listing. Why three? Are they all going to stay boxed up and "saved"?

[Stefan(2)]

Love those collection's , if one of them is reading

- taking a bow, after that.. giving applaus -

Would certainly love to see one of these collections in real life.

If you don't want to write... don't write,

the thing is.. even if you want to, you can't add cars "unseen" ,

Evry showroom entery gets a view on the front page.

( unless the viewer have blocked specific additions )

Collection NIB , why not!.. you can always build them,

You could never do the trick reversed

Willychang is quite correct, after a x ammount of collected models, it is

easy to lose track.

Even if your not a uber-mega-big collector, but you do have more models then you could

ever run in one day.

Now lets reverse it, for the fun of it... ( and to make a point )

Why do these guys, only having 6 or so models, have a showroom on TC ?

Usually half of them markt "sold" , or .. " traded for .... "

Long story's about how they keep on repairing them after another crash.

Only a couple of bashed & smashed cars to see.

If i want to see a handfull of used & abused cars..

I just look in my trash bin. Not on TC ...

<ehm.. for the record, just to make a point .. >

Stefan

[Singapore_959]

Willychang is quite correct, after a x ammount of collected models, it is

easy to lose track.

Even if your not a uber-mega-big collector, but you do have more models then you could

ever run in one day.

Now lets...

<ehm.. for the record, just to make a point .. >

Stefan

As I said in my opening post:

"Personally I don't enjoy seeing these showrooms with zero contribution to the fun and knowledge of the club.

I am not having a poke at specific members,"

I asked how other member feel about this. I agree with Willy and most of the other posts, but I stand by the fact that many many NIBs without description in someones showroom are boring and don't add anything of merit, and might as well simply be put in a written list under one entry.

But each to his own pleasure. I am not condeming anyone, simply stating that I find these non valuable entrys on the server-TC generally.

[mobias]

There seems to be a huge spate in the last few days of NIB 'classic' 80's Tamiya's in various peoples showrooms. Did i miss something? Has a cargo boat carrying these kits recently run aground spilling its cargo or has someone just won the lottery?

Anyway I'm seething with envy, sour grapes and any other term to come under umbrella word of jealousy.

[Stefan(2)]

@Singapore_959

I'm not attacking

I just don't feel the same about it, i also like to see a "NIB" ,

As i also like to see a custom ride or a basher with a long life.

Tru, it is a photo only without the comment.. but.. What to say ?

Can imagine, when adding 100+ NIB's to your showroom, it is hard to

figur out something original about that kit.

Especially if you don't like to share the buying price , what i can imagine.

Or.. where did you get it.. " Ebay ... "

The thing is, how to add this models unseen? Or.. why!

If i would own such a collection, and would put it on-line.. would

not mind showing off a bit.

A collection like those don't come easy i can imagine.

What annoys me more, and consider a waist of server space & time

Are those -fake- model entery's ... " have you seen the new high lift " ...

But.. that is a other topic

Stefan

[Mr.Nismo]

In my opinion these are guys who were collecting kits long before TC was online. You know, the time you could buy a NIB 959 for 400 euro's

At one moment they had seen all of those tamiya lovers here at TC and the made the choice to show off there collection to the public. Maby these guys are not that willing to share there stories.

I also think it is nice to read stories about loft finds, garage sales and fleemarkets. But if these guys are collecting for over 15 years now, maby there just isn't much to say about there kits. This will also explain why all those rare NIB kits show up, but none of us have seen them up for sale anywhere lately. You can't tell me that Mr HK has bought all of those kits in one week. If so, WHERE IS THAT STORE!!!!

[markbt73]

I guess the flip side of that is that the people who have only a few cars and keep fixing them up are more able to make a contribution. Those are the people you turn to when your car breaks or acts up. Someone who only has a NIB or shelf queen has no idea of the characteristics of the vehicle as a runner, so they can't tell you how to make the gearbox stop making that noise or what settings to use for the front suspension.

Personally, I love the stories of how a certain vehicle has been thrashed within an inch of its life ten times. I like to see different paint schemes and odd setups and bits of one car grafted onto another.

And really, how much can you say about a NIB kit that hasn't already been said in the catalogs and advertisements 20 years ago? "Yep, it's a Bigwig."

[dazaa]

I agree with stefan if you have over 100 nib kits to add what is there to say, unless you got it for free or at a bargain price it is just a nib kit nothing special. If you want information on the kit then there are other site includin tc that have plenty of information I also agree that it is very annoying when you see people adding th new hilux to thier showrooms we have seen it a million times please stop adding it.

Thanks

[zakspeed]

I personally like to see these collections. I mean it happens in the 1:1 car world as well, Take the Mk1 Ford Cortina theres plenty of restored cars, plenty of original runners and on ebay recently a sat in a corner of a shed for 40 years unregisterd as new Cortina !!! and i've seen the actual car in the flesh and it's amazing to see - register it and run it for 3 years and it detracts from any interest it had. just an example and going off topic I know ...

Now I agree cars should be built and run and i'm guilty than most for NIB's in my collection but for me I think it's great to see an untouched original kit. Yeah the TC guy in question may not speak english and thats why no description, it might not be the case - just a thought. Yes it would be nice for a little bit of a background to this guy. Age, how into hobby, how long collecting etc. ??

But don't take away the effort thats gone into collecting all this history and dont forget once it's built thats it - you can't unbuild it ;-)

Ref Tamiyaman - he started to sell his collection off a couple of years ago - I know cause the original Lancia Rally in his showroom is not sat in my house :-)

Just my 2 pence worth..

[Bluefoot]

While I'm not a big fan of NIBs, I do have quite a few of them myself. All in line to be built of course, although some might get sold off to fund future projects.

However I think it's fine if anyone wants to fill their showroom with the items that they own, be it NIBs or wreckge (as long as they are Tamiya/RC related). I admire the dedication and fiscal fortitude required to amass such collections. Sure you can already find examples of NIBs of every model on TC, but hey, I want to show MY collection! Fair enough too.

As far as making a contribution to the club - what would happen if all 22,000 members were posting on the forums each day? Would you have the time to read all that?

I think the contribution is in the form of knowing that here is another person who shares an interest in my hobby, and has taken the time and effort to share his collection with us.

There seems to be a wide range of reasons why people are part of this club: Runners, Racers, Bashers, Hop-UP freaks, Bling Monsters, Shelfers, Modellers, and that elusive hard-to-define breed - Collectors. Some cross over several genres and some don't understand the motivations of the others, but they all contribute to the club by being here and showing us their interest.

I happen to agree that a description with each model should be mandatory. I don't view entries that don't have a description unless it looks like something very unusual. Descriptions add greatly to the entertainment value.

Another thing that I really like to see is shots of the chassis! not just the fantastic painting and decalling job you have done. I use the showrooms as a reference when I am working on my cars, and, for example, it is very useful to be able to see where all the bits should go so I can see what is missing off my TA03 chassis.

I usually have to wade throught dozens of showroom entries to find good chassis shots. Just my little gripe.

[terry.sc]

There are a few, and the number seems to be growing, collectors appearing on TC who have got every Tamiya NIB.

I am talking about those with 150 plus in series NIBs, and ...

who make no effort to add any sharing of passion or knowledge to TC. At all.

Personally I don't enjoy seeing these showrooms with zero contribution to the fun and knowledge of the club.

I am not having a poke at specific members, but I am saying the idea and spirit of TC is to share a passion expressively - so could collectors of this type at least show a bit of passion somewhere - personal page, forum, etc?

How do you feel about this?

Depends on your definition of contribution. For example bcollections showroom is a valuable contribution as it includes many rare non Tamiya cars so adds to the purpose of the website to be the biggest reference of vintage r/cs. Many members 'share their passion' by showing their collections, sharing what they have with others. Other members share their knowledge and experience, others bring their enthusiasm to the site. All are contributions, just in different personal ways. And as the specific ones discussed are the NIB collections what can they say? The owners are more fans of Tamiyas kits rather than r/cers with many years experience, it's just like collecting big diecasts.

I must say though if you have a huge collection how long will it take to write a description for every one

There are a lot of r/c collectors who aren't here on TC, many with huge collections that have been collecting for 10-15 years, maybe longer, so very hard to remember how they acquired the car in the first place. Depends on the writer as to whether the description of how you came across the car is interesting or not. It is nice to have a description with the pictures but I'm sure if it was a requirement you would find 'bought on ebay' as the description on a lot of them.

There was a time when we were discussing whether to include NIBs at all, after all when you've seen one box you've seen them all.

[highflyer]

I understand what Singapore_959 is saying, some could show they are not ROBOTS buying every NIB because they have the BIG money too.. But also some NIB collectors show what they have accomplished and are not obligated to do anything else. JMO!

I left comments for some of these NIB collections and it gets erased or they may not want to talk about it?

Some of the few with these COSTLY NIB collections have spent ALOT of MONEY obtaining these kits and I have no problem looking at them .

[Shodog]

Am I the only one sickened by the tone of this thread. Singapore, Let me get this straight, you attack this person whom you have never met for having such an extensive collection and not providing a adequate descriptions for them? Sounds like some one is jealous because they basically don't have the means to obtain a collection such as this. Some great welcome you have given this new member. I hope for his or her sake that she isn't reading this thread.