Good High Torque For Drifting

[Victorious Secret]

Greetings Fellow Fan,

What woud you recommand for a good high torque drifting motor? I have the XRS ESC and pretty much a stock TT-01?

I thank you for your time!

VS

[3doorpete]

If you are using plastic piping or similar low grip Yokomo tyres then you don't need a really hot motor for drifiting. I've found through experimenting that the Tamiya Superstock RZ motor is best in TT01's. The TZ is more torquey slightly, but the extra top end of the RZ is nicer to have and it never lacks the torque to get it sideways at any speed. It's a 23 turn single motor.

If you are using a standard TT01, for drifting I recomend putting Blu Tac in the rear diff to lock it, buying a motor heatsink and metal motor mount plate and an alloy prop shaft. Eventually, once an experienced drifter, a front one way diff is the final mod. TT01's make great drift chassis - I have 3! With the above set up - you can actually use a TEU101BK speed controller as due to the lack of grip, there's never much current pull by the motor and hence the ESC stays cool - use the hot ESC you have for something else.

[JT (D1RC)]

Good advice Peter. In the D1RC Drift Series we nearly all use 19turn motors (series 18t motor limit) and they have ample power. If you are running Yok single rings or HPI T-Drifts, both great tyres, you don't need particularly high torque or high revs but if you have both then you know you've enough power to carry through a long, high speed drift when it's needed. What you do need is a very smooth, linear power curve because, as you'll know, most of the steering is achieved by throttle control.

Popular choices are the Yokomo D1SP 19t, Checkpoint MoneyMotor 19t and the Orion Drift Machine 18t. Why not join us at the next event? It's very friendly, relaxed and fun. In fact, nothing like touring car racing!!

[Victorious Secret]

Thank you all very much for the advice! 19T motor it is!

I really wish I could join you guys, but then again, neither me nor my car would swim that far across the Atlantic Ocean.

I saw many drift videos on Youtube and I wish someone in my city have a similar group. So far, no luck.

Oh I just realize my XRS can only handle up to 15T. Will the 19T motor hurt the ESC?

VS

[3doorpete]

With motors, the hotter the motor, the lower number of turns. So a 15 limit ESC will handle a 19 turn fine, but may cut out or blow with a 12 turn. Stock Tamiya cans that come in the kits are 27 turn singles. If you are learning even stock motors are fine as you want to work on your low speed control and controlling the weight and attitude of the car before increasing the speed.

Good luck!

[Victorious Secret]

Thank you very much for the valuable information Pete!

I will start using stock motor first and then move on to the 19T

VS

[Victorious Secret]

With motors, the hotter the motor, the lower number of turns. So a 15 limit ESC will handle a 19 turn fine, but may cut out or blow with a 12 turn. Stock Tamiya cans that come in the kits are 27 turn singles. If you are learning even stock motors are fine as you want to work on your low speed control and controlling the weight and attitude of the car before increasing the speed.

Good luck!

So... is the lower number turn motor is better than high number turn motor? Such as 19T is better than 27T?

VS

[markbt73]

Not "better."

Generally speaking, lower turn = higher RPM and higher current draw. But higher turn = more torque.

So a 55 turn lathe motor is much better for rock crawling than a 12 turn racing motor would be. But put the same motors on a banked oval track, and it's the other way around. So it's not a question of better or worse; it's a question of suitability for the purpose.

Having no knowledge of drifting (don't see the point, sorry), I can't direct you to whether a high or low turn motor would be "better" for you.

[JT (D1RC)]

Oh I just realize my XRS can only handle up to 15T. Will the 19T motor hurt the ESC?

The XRS is a great drift ESC and was fitted to all the top D1RC cars, using the 18/19 turn motors! We've never had any problems with this little ESC and, unlike so many, it gives you brakes when you want brakes and reverse when you want reverse - a rare quality in reverse ESCs these days!

Sorry, didn't realise you were across the pond!

[Victorious Secret]

The XRS is a great drift ESC and was fitted to all the top D1RC cars, using the 18/19 turn motors! We've never had any problems with this little ESC and, unlike so many, it gives you brakes when you want brakes and reverse when you want reverse - a rare quality in reverse ESCs these days!

Sorry, didn't realise you were across the pond!

Thanks again JT, I'm glad I made it to this forum. Much more friendlier than some of the orther RC forums out there!

I can not wait to show you guys my finished kit!

VS

[subsea84]

Hi all. I have a TT01 drift car (nismo silvia) It has had some hop-ups but am now looking at diffs. Are ball diffs any good in a drifter