Drift Cars

[minimadgriff]

evening all!

Just wondered if you could answer a few questions for me?

These drift cars. What makes them drift? can you turn any car into a drift car? if so what do you need?

Thanks

Ben

[blakeatron]

i had the tt-01 D for a little bit, and it had;

hotter motor

oil shocks

bearings

drift tires

and possibly a locked rear diff?

i think you can drift anything, 4wd is easier to begin - and having the right tires, either drift rims or plastic pipe over your tires.

Like i said i had the tt01d to try drifting and didn't really see the point, found it quite easy and not as fun as tearing up a track - might just be me tho!

[minimadgriff]

i had the tt-01 D for a little bit, and it had;

hotter motor

oil shocks

bearings

drift tires

and possibly a locked rear diff?

i think you can drift anything, 4wd is easier to begin - and having the right tires, either drift rims or plastic pipe over your tires.

Like i said i had the tt01d to try drifting and didn't really see the point, found it quite easy and not as fun as tearing up a track - might just be me tho!

thanks for the reply. so i could drift my TL-01? it does drift if i take the shaft out and make it rear wheel drive and put my stupidly fast trinity motor in it but its abit of a handful.

whats the difference between drift tyres and normal tyres?

[ryanbored]

4wd is better!- So leave the shaft in! And Drift tyres are usually a harder compound, Like ABS, specifically made to give you less grip

[minimadgriff]

4wd is better!- So leave the shaft in! And Drift tyres are usually a harder compound, Like ABS, specifically made to give you less grip

so i just need some drift tyres then?

I know 4wd is better the thing is an animal without the shaft in. if you go full throttle of the line it just switches ends lol good for donuts though lol

[Bluefoot]

Drift tyres are a hard plastic. You can make your own using PVC or alkathene pipe of the apropriate diameter (although some of the purpose made tyres may perform better).

I have a standard TL01 that drifts with a standard 540 motor and a MSC. No locked diffs. The tyres on that one are very slippery. This is not up to competition standard but is great for the kids to have a bash with.

I also have a TA05 running a TZ motor, front and rear stabilisers and with Kawada drift tyres. The diffs are tightened a little. This is much more controlable.

I couldn't see the point in drifting either, untill I tried it. But maybe it's just the latest phase in my ever-changing RC interest...

[minimadgriff]

so what could i add other than tyres to the TL01 to make it like a proper drift car?

[Bluefoot]

I'm far from an expert on these things, but I think if you stiffen the suspension - harder springs and sway-bars - and put a moderately powerful motor in you will improve things. To drift properly you want to lose some traction but not to the point that you lose control. Steering while drifting is done as much by applying power at the right time as turning the steering.

[ryanbored]

I can't post a link but if you search ebay for "drift tyres" (get the wheel and tyre set) the whole thing will cost you about a tenner. You do not need anything else! honestly! You'll have a blast, and if you then choose to persue it you can look at oil dampers, a hotter motor (Tamiya black can is more than enough) Lower/stiffer springs even neon lights! ()

Start with te wheels/ tyres and go from there

[mymonsterbeetleisbroken]

I've got a ta03 FS that i've used for a bit of drifting. I've not tried any serious drifting, i just thought it would be something different

Its got plastic drift wheels but apart from that the chassis is all as standard. Its 15 turn motor is probably too fast for drifting but i can make it work pretty well if i'm easy on the throttle

With the motor mounted right at the front it doesn't spin out easily which really helps the drifting, its a nice chassis for going sideways

[terry.sc]

To make it a 'proper' drift car all you have to do is change the tyres to drift ones and that's it. Either lock up the rear diff or put plenty of Tamiya Anti-Wear grease in it makes it easier to keep the drift going.

[yamita]

You can use anything 4wd from tt01 to ta03. Everything depends on your shock/suspension setup and tires. Hpi drift tires are cheap and work very well. Last alot longer than yokomos or home made plastic tires.

[TWINSET]

there seems to be a split in RC drifting happening - one train of thought is the full ABS/plastic tire, which is like driving a well greased roller skate across an ice rink, and the other where the tyres are very hard rubber, so you do have a degree of grip, but stomping the floor is enough to lose traction when required.

Either way, done right it looks well cool, although I'm on my third practice shell already

For the full 'greased skates on ice' setup, try HERE

If you're a cheapskate, try the B & Q method

[PSXBatou]

And if you are in the States you may want to look for drift tIres

hehe

Sorry, I had to chime in on that. The alcohol made me do it.. honest!

I was racing this weekend and inadvertantly drifed a few corners, I had my ball diff a bit too tight for the track conditions.. oh well. Came in 2nd overall, not too bad i s'pose.

Back to the grind tomorrow

[TWINSET]

And if you are in the States you may want to look for drift tIres

It's called English for a reason, let us know when you're done messing with it

[Victorious Secret]

minimadgriff

Besides the drift tires and suspension, you need a 18 to 19T motor for better result.

VS

[WillyChang]

you can drift with any car... ABS tyres just lets you drift at slower speeds.

TL01... possibly the only hurdle you might have is - do you have an ESC in that thing?

You need precise & quick-acting throttle control so ESC is a must; MSC will be too slow.

For more sliding consistency, you can jam up your rear or both diffs.

TL01 needs full bearings for longetivity, same for any other car.

TL01's rubbertube friction shocks may also be worse for age by now... oil shocks are good upgrade.

Universal driveshafts are handy but not mandatory; you can use TA04 units in the TL01.

[justjay]

I put the wheels & rubber from my TT01D drifter onto my standard XB TT01 to see how good it would be...

The TT01 isnt ballraced or anything, I chucked in a tamiya sport motor on the standard tamiya kit ESC and it drifted ok....

Only when you run one back to back with a proper TT01D drift car do you realise that the harder suspension does make a badword of a difference to the control...

standard TT01 suspension seemed to be too soft and bouncy on the back and it was trying to get grip at the slower speed moves.. front strangely enough I didnt really notice much change...

I'd suggest a minimum of...

motor (tamiya sport is more than capable)

stiffer suspension (rear for certain)

ballraces (for sure)

the TT01D comes with adjustable rear arms to adjust the camber but TBH I've never had to muck about with it...

hope it helps...

[minimadgriff]

thanks for all the responses chaps. much appreciated.

I dont really fancy ABS tyres. sounds abit like a bodge job to me rather have the rubber version.

I have a powerful trinity motor in my mini which i put in the TL-01 sometimes so i can switch that over when i fancy some drifting. its already full ball raced.

Ill get some oil filled shocks for it, I also need a ESC infact i need two! my mini struggles to cope with the trinity on a msc. which ESC should i get?

this locking up the diff melarky. do i literally just need to whack aload of grease in there? or another way?

thanks

ben

[mymonsterbeetleisbroken]

Anyone make 2.2 size drift wheels and tyres?

I'm thinking a sideways high lift would be pretty cool

[markbt73]

Anyone make 2.2 size drift wheels and tyres?

I'm thinking a sideways high lift would be pretty cool

There's always the REALLY cheap way: Wrap electrical tape around an old set of tires. I did this with my old Grasshopper ages ago, when it still had the 380 motor.

Too bad it didn't catch on - I could have started the drifting craze in 1987.

[minimadgriff]

Anyone make 2.2 size drift wheels and tyres?

I'm thinking a sideways high lift would be pretty cool

[justjay]

I'm using an LRP AI auto super reverse LRP83200 (modelsport) ... runs my 15T no probs... think they're about 35

[WillyChang]

I dont really fancy ABS tyres. sounds abit like a bodge job to me rather have the rubber version.

ABS tyres give the best friction coefficient for RC drifting.

Or you can buy various commercial drift tyres from Yokomo, HPI, Kawada etc.

Even Tamiya has brought out a new stiff-plastic ring, plus their TypeDs.

You won't have enough power to spin race slicks unless you've got a serious race brushless setup.

this locking up the diff melarky. do i literally just need to whack aload of grease in there? or another way?

best way is to replace the grease with glue - shoegoo works the best

on TL01 i've also done it by stuffing inchlong bits of fueltube into the diff, about a dozen pieces.

[hedge]

I don't get drifiting, I spend all my time setting up my car to handle well, downforce, droop, camber, toe, spring tension, ride height, oil weight and tyres so it's sticks to the track, why then make it drift sideways