Tamiya Hi-lux Highlift / The Bruiser

[mongoose1983]

Lately I been talking with some fellow Tamiyaheads and told them about how much I wanted a Bruiser rather than any other trucks. They both said they rather go for the new Hi-Lux truck because of both, price and performance. There is, as much as I know, a common belief that the newer is faster but how about this video I saw a couple of nights ago?

As for Toyota questions arising, anybody knows if the new Toyota fits the tires of the classic 1985 Bruiser? I just can't stand those tiny wheels it comes with.

Goodnight y'all!

EB

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[WillyChang]

Highlift uses hexdrive touringcar size wheels.

If you get some hexdrive 2" wheels you can mount the Bruiser/Blackfoot size tyres on it. Rear wheels from Blackfoot, Monster Beetle etc.

[Shodog]

The classic bruiser is just that, a classic. The scale looks of the frame are awesome. Having said that, the High lift hilux is a way way better truck for running. the stock 1.9's can be replaced for 2.2 inch 12mm hex wheels. aside from the black chrome, i like the new hilux body much better than the older mountaineer simply for the ease of installing the led's

[mongoose1983]

i like the new hilux body much better than the older mountaineer simply for the ease of installing the led's

OK, thanks for all the info guys! Now, all I want to know is what if I get them Blackfoot wheels onto this HiLux. Will they hit the body of this truck while landing from a jump? Alright, I know this isn't the truck you'd make jump all over the place like a Grasshopper, but I'm curious as to how much one can make a High lift look like a Bruiser. You see, the more possible such thing is, the more excited I'd get on buying one of these newer trucks!

Cheers!

EB

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[Chain Driven]

Well I can't agree, the Bruiser is a brilliant runner and performs very well at crawling and off road and there is nothing a 350 would do that a Bruiser can't. Just compare the ground clearance, and how much the axles can cope with in terms of height...

A lot of crawler guys are still using them and just use a few hopups to make it perfectly reliable.

But that's my opinion and as my Avatar suggest I'm a bit biased.

Jerome

[Crash Cramer]

I think Jerome has hinted on a few ideas in the terms of USAGE that would rate one model over the other. I think he would agree with me that the same type of comment could be applied to the 1:1 Jeep. Today's Jeeps are plastic with some metal thrown in for good measure, but nothing beats the look, feel, etc of a 1980's CJ Jeep. Anyway, I think if you are looking for the look of the old with the price of the new, here is a post on TC showroom with the bigger tires and wheels that could help you have the look of the old with the cost of the new kit.

http://www.tamiyaclub.com/showroom_model.a...97&id=16077

In whatever your choice, remember this, as long as you are happy with it, it really doesn't matter what other folks think.

[Shodog]

there is nothing a 350 would do that a Bruiser can't.

Sure there is, how about steer in a straight line and shift gears on th fly. The bruiser is a great truck but lets take the rose colored glasses off and be realistic. The Bruiser steering linkage is super sloppy and the transmission will happily grenade when you try to shift while moving.

[Chain Driven]

Sure there is, how about steer in a straight line and shift gears on th fly. The bruiser is a great truck but lets take the rose colored glasses off and be realistic. The Bruiser steering linkage is super sloppy and the transmission will happily grenade when you try to shift while moving.

yes, steering is what you change first on a runner Bruiser, i as I mentioned in form of options.

And my gearbox does not fail to shift on the go...as demonstrated at the last Kidd...

But obviously Shodog we'll never agree, as I see you saying this everytime someone asks about the Bruiser.

So I have no rose coloured glass thank you, and I'm running mine every 2 weeks and hard btw and it is never the first truck to fail.

So give your opinion, don't impose it please.

Jerome

[mongoose1983]

Let's cool off, guys!

There is space for diff opinions here... (and besides, everybody knows I'd take the Bruiser over the Hi-Lux anytime...)

The video comparison I saw on youtube (link in the first post) shows a faster Bruiser, so I was surprised to see a truck that supposedly should have been slower beating a hopped-up High-lift! have you seen the vid? What do y'all think about it?

Have a good one,

EB

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[Shodog]

But obviously Shodog we'll never agree..so give your opinion, don't impose it please.

Jerome

I hope you wouldn't feel that I am imposing my opinion on anyone, I'm simply stating the way I see it. I guess I should proclaim myself defender of the high lift. Many people love to bash it for it's boring looking chassis while convienetly forgeting about the bruiser's huge shortcomings.

The definition of running hard is open to interpretation. What I would consider hard would tear a bruiser axle and transmission up in no time. In my years of collecting vintage 3speeds I have seen some really thrashed parts. Even on my own mountaineer i've done damage with relatively little use. I have beat on my hilux and haven't had any problems.

Mongoose back to your original question. IMO the bruiser is too fast in third gear. The High Lift has a lower final ratio than the Bruiser so it stands to reason the the Bruiser would beat it in an all out drag race. However the ease in changing out the motor in a High lift with any 540 brushed or brushless motor allows you to easily correct that deficiency.

[Chain Driven]

Let's cool off, guys!

There is space for diff opinions here... (and besides, everybody knows I'd take the Bruiser over the Hi-Lux anytime...)

The video comparison I saw on youtube (link in the first post) shows a faster Bruiser, so I was surprised to see a truck that supposedly should have been slower beating a hopped-up High-lift! have you seen the vid? What do y'all think about it?

Have a good one,

EB

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You're right EB

About the video, yes I saw it and it was the same at Kidd the Bruiser Mounties were faster, remember the motor is a 750, a lot torquier than the 540s.

Cheers

Jerome

[mymonsterbeetleisbroken]

You couldn't constantly run a bruiser the same way as you could run a high lift, as the bruisers components wear out much faster than a high lifts does. The tougher gears and plastic components of the high lift are superior to the scale bruiser parts in terms of strength and performance.

But the bruiser is just very, very cool

Glad you liked the video