RichieRich 660 Posted March 19, 2008 I know this question has been asked many times. Anyways, quick story: Back in the late 80s, I was looking for some shocks for my Turbo Ultima. I didn't like the platinums that the car came with. So, since I couldn't afford the Kyosho Golds, I got the Duratrax Golds. They are nearly identical, but after a careful analysis, they are very different. So, I didn't like the way those worked out so I let my brother borrow them for his Kyosho Outrage. Massive upgrade for the outrage since it came standard with friction shocks. Fast forward to last Sunday. I'm digging around in my parent's garage and there are the Duratrax golds attached to an Outrage carcass. Well, at least the front shocks, I couldn't find the rears. Let's have a little fun with this. Which shocks are the Kyoshos? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wireless 34 Posted March 19, 2008 Bottom ones are the Kyoshos. Just a guess Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snake Plissken 0 Posted March 19, 2008 Obviously a very similar design, too bad Duratrax cheaped out on adding a second o ring... Interestingly, it looks like you can add a second o ring by not installing one of the two spacers. Looking at the pic it looks like the Duratrax shock shaft is a smaller diameter than Kyosho's?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
INTEGRA FAN 5 Posted March 19, 2008 both are same, both are duratrax cause i don't think that Kyosho gold uses a black piston. I know this question has been asked many times. Anyways, quick story: Back in the late 80s, I was looking for some shocks for my Turbo Ultima. I didn't like the platinums that the car came with. So, since I couldn't afford the Kyosho Golds, I got the Duratrax Golds. They are nearly identical, but after a careful analysis, they are very different. So, I didn't like the way those worked out so I let my brother borrow them for his Kyosho Outrage. Massive upgrade for the outrage since it came standard with friction shocks. Fast forward to last Sunday. I'm digging around in my parent's garage and there are the Duratrax golds attached to an Outrage carcass. Well, at least the front shocks, I couldn't find the rears. Let's have a little fun with this. Which shocks are the Kyoshos? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Singapore_959 18 Posted March 19, 2008 ooo oooh! LOL, no idea, but interested in the answer and side by side photos if they are not both shown already. Me too, I have fond memories of playing with those fine Kyosho god shocks. You could actually keep them in your pocket to carry around and play with, as opposed to the tamiya ones which you know could always suddenly leak Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichieRich 660 Posted March 19, 2008 Just to clarify, there is one Kyosho and one Duratrax in the photo. The Kyosho one came right off my Turbo Optima. Yes, they are well used. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
terry.sc 16 Posted March 20, 2008 I'm not saying anything but it's easy to tell which is which - the Duraleaks are built as cheap as possible, even down to the number of seals they use. They weren't nicknamed Duraleaks for nothing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
INTEGRA FAN 5 Posted March 20, 2008 moreover Kyosho Gold and Duratrax golds differ in their gold color, and those looks the same. Is there any other proof that one of them is Kyosho Gold other than it was removed from a Turbo Optima ? Just to clarify, there is one Kyosho and one Duratrax in the photo. The Kyosho one came right off my Turbo Optima. Yes, they are well used. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichieRich 660 Posted March 20, 2008 moreover Kyosho Gold and Duratrax golds differ in their gold color, and those looks the same. Is there any other proof that one of them is Kyosho Gold other than it was removed from a Turbo Optima ? Well, here's exhibit A proving that the gold color doesn't always differ. I will post the answer later today, but Terry has already given a huge hint. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichieRich 660 Posted March 22, 2008 Alright. The Kysoho shock is the one on top. The Kyosho gold shocks have two o-ring seals on the bottom of the shock body. The pistons are different even though they are the same color. The shock shafts and shock bodies are longer than the Duratrax shocks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
legarto 0 Posted April 7, 2008 I love Kyosho gold shocks - for me they epitomize vintage rc. When I had a Turbo Ultima back in the late 80s, I was excited to get the platinum "upgrades," but they were such a disappointment - go gold ;-). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rcjunkie3000 2 Posted December 17, 2008 Top one is Kyosho...ok I'm a little late. I have a set of front Kyosho Gold shocks. One has a badly damaged shock shaft. Is there a current Kyosho shaft with the same thickness and length that will work with the Kyosho Gold front shocks? It is for a runner so it does not need to be the original part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
violetmind 0 Posted December 21, 2008 Shucks, this means it's pretty easy for those holding onto Duratrax shocks, adding another o-ring and passing them off as kyoshos to unsuspecting buyers/collectors? sigh....I gotta break open all my gold shocks now just to see if I got suckered..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichieRich 660 Posted December 21, 2008 Actually, I don't think it's possible to double o-ring a duratrax shock. There's not enough room. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
violetmind 0 Posted December 22, 2008 Now that's good news! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stulec52 48 Posted December 31, 2008 so then, since I'm having such a hard time getting a set of Gold Kyosho ones for my Custom Special mid, could I just get a set of the Duratrax ones? There won't be any oil going in, so leakage not an issue. If anyone can supply a part number, or where to get them that would be great ! Richie???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichieRich 660 Posted December 31, 2008 Yes? These are the part numbers I have: DTXC3500 - set of two 3" shocks DTXC3501 - set of two 4" shocks If you do a google search, you'll get some hits for some hobby shops that may have them in stock. Try giving a few of them a call. The people at happyhobby.com always seem pretty helpful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites