Wild Dagger

[thesnake505]

hay all, well my wild dagger turned up to day off FERRETTI, had a quick look over it, and added a steering servo and a servo for the msc's, have run a few batterys threw it and the truck was a hit instantly i love it, evan thou i have a few issues, one of them is the front shock tower and right hand shock are both bent, the tower has be strightend at some point and the shock aint that bad, but i will replace both as soon as funds allow (mrs lost her job so need her to get new one before more cash to be spent)

now because of the money issue i have, i am going to have to use the msc for a short (i hope) time, the problem i have is i have never used one before (i think thats lucky :-) ), i have managed to attach a servo and run a few batterys threw the car but i have a few issuses, the throw of the servo is more then that of the msc arm, so i either have it that on full throttle msc arm goes past the contact pad, or i have it do the same in reverse! is there any way of changine this? maybe adjusting the link arm between the servo and the msc? any help would be good

tonite im gona pull the truck apart and see if it has ball bearings and grease up the gears etc, put a couple if new silver can in it and rebuild for more play time tomoro, (off sick at the moment, so no work for another couple of weeks)

cheers snake

[kernowmafia]

i noticed that the blue rear shocks are on upside down,is there a reason for this........

[Rambo John J]

Nice truck snake, reminds me of mine a few months ago! take a birds eye photo of the msc and servo and ill try and talk u through the adjustment?

I too have a few days off! Aaaah Yeah!

[4wdmt]

i noticed that the blue rear shocks are on upside down,is there a reason for this........

I see some RC crawlers do this. I THINK...it is to prevent oil leakage.

Nice dagger btw. upgraded shock towers and shocks.

[thesnake505]

yo,

they have been fitted upside down cause of clearence issues, the blue/rear shock tower has a lot more height were the shock fits, three holes high rather then one, so had to gone on up side down, wasnt done by me btw this is how i got it,

the truck is in fair condition, few bolts and things need replaceing but generally good, thou its obvious its had a good bashing in its life, but no worse then im gona give it, not had time to strip to check for bearings will do tomoro,

also stock are the drive shafts diffrent between the front and rear, the rears are a lot thincker then the fronts

heres pics of msc, thanks in advance for the help,

[thesnake505]

ok, think i have it, just looked at that pic, what if i move the arm to the next hole down on the servo horn??? cheers martyn

[kernowmafia]

moving the arm down will work ,also if your controller has epa you could fine tune it with that,looks good though there brilliant fun to drive,mine will lift the front wheels if i've got enough grip

[thesnake505]

ok, so i have tired that and seams to have done the trick, next question, i thaught that msc had 3 speeds forward and 3 back, and thats what the contact patchs are for? yet i only seam to have the top most speed, the arm has to hit the last metal pad before i can go any were, so no slow speed :-( is there any thing i can do, or has this msc had it and ill just have to make do with it untill i can afford a esc??

yea iv had front end lift up a few times, thou to be honest its been a reverse to forward jobby :-) really looking forward to having it running properly with a decet speed controller weather it be msc or esc :-)

snake

[4wdmt]

Oh. I did not notice you have 2 different sets of shock towers . That explains the upside down shocks.

I remember having my 1st RC, Tamiya King Blackfoot. I have the MSC there and I don't see much difference with 1st, 2nd and 3rd speed. I don't know how to diagnose busted MSCs.

[thesnake505]

hay all, well the new wheels i orderd last week came today they are 2.2 Mudrock beadlock from junfac, fitted them on and they look great but they have a diffrent offset to the original wheels, and they narrow the track a bit, and also the front are very close to rubbing, i fear that when driving and bounsing about the tyres will rub, will these wheel wideners be to much from junfac? cause if not i will put them on my shopping list :-) junfac link

cheers snake

[Mountain]

ok, so i have tired that and seams to have done the trick, next question, i thaught that msc had 3 speeds forward and 3 back, and thats what the contact patchs are for? yet i only seam to have the top most speed, the arm has to hit the last metal pad before i can go any were, so no slow speed :-( is there any thing i can do, or has this msc had it and ill just have to make do with it untill i can afford a esc??

yea iv had front end lift up a few times, thou to be honest its been a reverse to forward jobby :-) really looking forward to having it running properly with a decet speed controller weather it be msc or esc :-)

snake

Sounds like the resistor has gone (or the wiring to it) so if you replace it should work ok again and you will have low speed again. They should be fairly cheap to obtain or if you have one you aren't using it you can borrow it from it.

[thesnake505]

hmm i dont have an other msc, ill take this one off and have a quick look, i dont want to have to buy one so we will see, snake

[thesnake505]

ok, does any one have the msc from there wild dagger, twin det etc i can purchase for beer money??

pics of me new wheels sprry fopr the poor pics i should really learn to use a camera one day :-)

snake

[Rambo John J]

if u can solder ill sell u mine, wires were removed for an upgrade to an esc(only battery wires removed), also if u need OE wheel hubs, suspension arms, wheels, tyres, let me know!!!

Think ive got those wheels on mine but in chrome!!!! good call! only down side. . . takes ages to swap tyres!!!!

[Mad Ax]

Hi Snake, the Junfac wideners will work on your Dagger, I use them on my 14.4v Dagger - but be warned that the sleeve nuts don't have any nyloc in, so you will need to use a good amount of threadlock, otherwise they will simply spin off when you give it some welly. I've been using Tamiya threadlock on mine but it hasn't worked - and when you lose a wheel, you also run the risk of losing a Junfac adaptor, so you have to pay for and wait for a complete new set to arrive from Korea! This happened to me a while back.

I am going to be using an automotive threadlock once I rebuild my Dagger, just waiting for the new chassis to arrive.

Regarding the speedo - the problem is probably caused by the resistor. There are some small wires that come from the MSC and go into the resistor (the white ceramic thing under the heatshield). Check they are plugged in as per the manual. Also check that all the contacts on the MSC are clean, including the power contacts at the back. They can burn and turn black or corrosive while in use. I use 240 grit abrassive paper to polish them to a lovely copper shine. Remember to do the contacts on the wiper as well as the base. You can get special speedo lube from Tamiya but automotive battery grease will also work - this helps prevent them corroding again.

If the resistor wires are all connected then it could just be a resistor, and I'm sure someone on TC will have a spare resistor lying around.

If all else fails I *think* I have a nearly-new twin-motor MSC from my TXT but will need to check in Ax's Big Box of Bits.

[4wdmt]

I'll check on my parts bin if my Double Blaze msc is still there. I didn't use it since I end up using an ESC from the start.

[thesnake505]

cheers for the offers of msc's guys, i recived one in the post this morning so cheers mad ax. has been fitted and truck is much better now, been out and ran 3 batterys throu it all ready, there back on charge as were going to take the dog, and truck up the woods later today :-), is there any free way of build a make shift fail safe?

gona go throw me new silver cans in it now, as i think the one in the front has had some abuse in the past

cheers snake

[Mad Ax]

cheers for the offers of msc's guys, i recived one in the post this morning so cheers mad ax

Wow that was quick, I only posted it at 5pm yesterday!!

[thesnake505]

has any one seen this done before?

already modded a standard tamiya esc to run the silver cans

link

think its worth a shot???? a TEU-101BK can be picked up cheap nufff, and i have a about 15 in the paypal account, so is it worth a shot??? let me know what u think, cheers snake