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_4-0_ Rising Star

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I think tamiya are only doing the XP stuff to keep the lazy people happy [;)]. Personally I prefere to build mine cos then I know how to fix it better (not happened yet cos I dont crash [;)])

raemin Mentor

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An XB (unpainted) sherman would be a definitive plus, I've heard horrible stories about the original tanks chains, that required to assemble no less than 240 tiny bits...

raemin Mentor

raemin

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The hornet description is really something...

"Featuring excellent performance on both dirt and on-road tracks," (so far nothing to say) "(...) The Hornet can take on any type of terrain." such as slipery or bumpy surfaces ?

From past and current experience I would have agreed with "The Hornet can take on any type of ABUSE" ;)

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Tamiya is probably making these kits so they can raise more sales than nikko and the other plastic fantasitic stuff.It may sell better at big chains of stores as they are pre built.I agree with 4-0 as u know how to fix it.

akihabaramallrat Collaborator

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what will come next, a XB Knight Hawler or Sherman? [8)]

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There is a factory assembled king tiger already but it had a limited release so very possible

El Mexican Proficient

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How about that "Nitro Blaster"? Ten feet way you couldnt tell the difference between this one, the "Nitro Force" (http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=44044) and the "Nitro Thunder" (http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=43514.

I know Tamiya is famous for rebadging their old designs on slightly similar outfits, but this is getting ridicolous.

Road Hawk? Blah!

XB Hornet? Sould be more like 'RTR Hornet'. What makes it 'XB'?

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That road hawk looks like a dodge pick-up maybe tamiya wanted to make a dodge SRT-10 but didn't get the license for it. But this looks really awfull but if they really made an dodge SRT-10

out of it like the 1/10 ford f-150 lightning it would be very cool.

But personlally I hope it wouldn't be sold in Holland[:)]

But some others may like it[?]

_4-0_ Rising Star

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XB/RTR is still good though. If it makes Tamiya more competative in the high street stores then Tamiya will have more dosh to spend on r&d and classic rereleases for all us TC suckers [;)] myself included [:D]

Big Al(2) Community Regular

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Ugh! I wish Tamiya would just make the cheesy cars like the Road Hawk, Super Fighter G, Land Zypher the XB ones. I am really mad that they made both of the classic Mini's XB. Since they did that, they better re-release kit versions of them too! I think the whole XB/RTR thing stinks. Just my opinion and thanks for letting me vent!!

-Al

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I think RTR's and XB's are the best thing for the market. It allows people to get into RC without Having to perform a complicated build. If people stay in the hobby, they will eventually buy kits.

As for an XB tank, I think that would be killer. They did a great job on the paint on the Hummer. I bet if they painted a tank it would look killer also.

Jim

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The Road Hawk body is the same as on the Overlander released in the Autumn - just a different colour and dropped onto the TT01. Makes sense as the old red Ford pickup was one of the most popular of the older TL01 XBs.

However, I don't know about RTR being popular overall with Tamiya. We're centre-of-town and despite a stack of these XB cars, kits still outsell them 10:1, it's only Nitro cars where the trend is reversed and only then because the cheap cars are available as RTR and the kits work out more expensive.

I think that even though it often costs less to buy the RTR version, mostly Tamiya = Kit in most poeple's minds.

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what on earth is the point of the xb hornet[?]

i thought it was suposed to be a starter kit - an easy build - so newbies can learn how to build up a simple rc kit.

if someone new to the hobby decides to start off with an xb hornet, are they ever going to consider buying a kit insted of a rtr?

the quick drive cars made sense, but a pre built hornet.... [xx(]

no doubt they will sell loads though.

when i was an rc newbie i had a problem. i got my clod ready to run, but when a pinion gear wore away and locked up one of the gearobxes, i didnt know what to do - because i hadnt built it and didnt know what was inside making it work (or not work as the case was [:P])

if i had built the kit then i would have known what could have been causing the problem, and could have fixed my truck alot faster.

i think building and maintaining the kits is part of the fun. sure that isnt for everyone, but if tamiya keep releasing pre built versions of there starter kits; whats going to make people decide to make the leap of buying a kit that needs building insted of a ready to run car[?]

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i think building and maintaining the kits is part of the fun. sure that isnt for everyone, but if tamiya keep releasing pre built versions of there starter kits; whats going to make people decide to make the leap of buying a kit that needs building insted of a ready to run car[?]

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If they are trully hooked on R/C a former XB purchaser will buy a kit. Its the natural progression of things.

I just can't see why there is so much hate for RTR's

MB190E Enthusiast

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what will come next, a XB Knight Hawler or Sherman? [8)]

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The pre-build Tanks certainly have some market. One day my friend (a Tamiya collector) commented about the R/C Tanks, and

he's hoping that a pre-builded one can be issued from Tamiya. (we didn't know Tamiya have one already).

The reason is the pre-builded one have a certain standard in it, whereas a good R/C tank kit can be inproperly build by a person and it's quite difficult to assert the quality of build. Certainly one can collect the kit without building it as well, but like die-cast car model there're quite a lot of

people collect them as well.

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DJTheo

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I think RTR's and XB's are the best thing for the market. It allows people to get into RC without Having to perform a complicated build. If people stay in the hobby, they will eventually buy kits.

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I think this most often works the other way around, people buy a R2R, drive it till something breaks and then have no clue how to fix it, are disappointed and never come back...

I mean how complicated are most Tamiya kits, most 10 years olds could build them in the past, but it seems people are getting lazier and more dumb, all day long just playing PS, watching TV and eating junk food...

Cheers

Floyd Proficient

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Personaly , the only thing that the RR and XB style kits are good for is to get realy young kids interested in RCing ( 5 to 6 year olds ). Other than that they have no use what so ever . If anything it kind of makes me feal like Tamiya is going the cheap rout and trying to compete more with Tyco and Nicko ( tipical Radio Shack junk ) and are abondoning the "hobby class" RC . Heck , even in the hobby class there is maybe three distinct different styles of chassis left with maybe a hundred different bodies on them from Tamiya ( definately something wrong with that picture ). That alone is kind of a letdown , then they started pre painting the shells in the kits ( another BIG letdown ) and now they have more RR and XB "kits" if you can actualy call them kits , than they do actual hobby grade RC kits . Dont get me wrong here , I will probobly allways be a die hard Tamiya fan , but anymore it feals like Im supporting Tyco rather than an actual hobby grade RC company . Tamiya has all but taken out the "hobby" end of their RC lineup and just made it an RC lineup ( with very limited exceptions ). If I cant build it , I wont buy it no matter what it is . If it has a prepainted shell , one of two things will happen . If I realy REALY want that particular chassis I will more than likely throw the body away or give it to someone or heck may even let the dog use it for a chew toy but if I am only slightly interested in the chassis I wont even look at it twice if it has a pre painted shell with it . To me 55% of the fun from this hobby is building painting and modding , with 45% going to driving bashing and racing . All the RR and XB stuff ( not just Tamiya , all of them )is just robbing people of halph of why this hobby is fun . Sure it can be a pain in the rear sometimes when you build your own , but the first time something breaks ( and it will ) or you come up with an idea for modding , you are glad that you had to assemble it and know the kit inside and out ... Again , this is just my opinion on the ready to run subject and Im not trying to tell everyone to think like me so please no flaming , and yes if you havent noticed I did not look up the actual numbers on anything but I cant be too far off ( just got off of work , dont feal like doing home work ). I know there is at least 30 different road cars with the only difference being the body and rims and some of the supposed off road cars useing the same chassis with minor differences there too ...

theshopkeeper Mentor

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Sure it can be a pain in the rear sometimes when you build your own , but the first time something breaks ( and it will ) or you come up with an idea for modding , you are glad that you had to assemble it and know the kit inside and out

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[^]Absolutely. Well said.

RTR is even more crazy with Nitro cars. Because of the speed they are guaranteed to break in the hands of a novice and because RTR are cheaper than kits it's the ready-built they go for every time. Then they haven't got a clue how to fix them.

...and because it's RTR they often think it's a toy so you get Nitro XBGs given to kids of 7 or 8 (cue "it's petrol innit", "battery only lasts 15 minutes so I thought this would be better" etc etc) who completely total the engine, body, tyres, wheels, Dad puts loads of Superglue all over to "fix" all the breakages then takes it back saying "it broke" after a week. [:(]

I think this is why for most people in the hobby trade we all dread the day you reopen after Christmas!!!

Big Al(2) Community Regular

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Hey ShopKeeper,

Do you own your own hobby shop? The reason I am asking is because I live in Philadelphia, PA and I am looking into opening a hobby shop of my own. If you do own your own shop, do you have any advice that you could give me? Is it a grueling process trying to establish your own business? Please let me know! You can email me at aja723@comcast.net. That goes for any other shop owners as well! Any and all advice is welcome!! Thanks everyone!

-Al

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