Imperical Tool Size

[TomEG]

Hi,

I bought a couple of Associated RC10's from eBay. All the hex/unbraco bolts and screws are imperical and not the metric I'm used to. I have found keys to most of the bolts, but I can't find one small enough to fit the smallest screws, like the locking bolts for the motor pinions. Does anyone know what size they are, just to help me what to look for?

Thanks,

Tom

[Lemming]

Hi,

I bought a couple of Associated RC10's from eBay. All the hex/unbraco bolts and screws are imperical and not the metric I'm used to. I have found keys to most of the bolts, but I can't find one small enough to fit the smallest screws, like the locking bolts for the motor pinions. Does anyone know what size they are, just to help me what to look for?

Thanks,

Tom

Might help to search for Imperial rather than Imperical.

I'm not being sarcastic, just trying to help!

Sizes are in inches (or part thereof). So 1/2" would be the nearest to 10mm for example. Not sure on the small sizes as all my tools are locked away in the shed.

Steve

[Jonny Retro]

Lots of RC10 manuals at http://www.rc10.com/racerhub/support.htm ... might the size info you're after?

[TomEG]

Might help to search for Imperial rather than Imperical.

LOL!!! that may be why I got so few results trying to search for it!! hahaha!

I'm not being sarcastic, just trying to help!

No problem! English is not my first language, so "errors" are common!

Tom

[TomEG]

Lots of RC10 manuals at http://www.rc10.com/racerhub/support.htm ... might the size info you're after?

Thanks,

I have the manual, and I have read through a lot of the other manuals, but I can't find the size of the smallest allen wrench mentioned..... :-(

Tom

[taliesin]

I don't know which size it is for that particular screw, but I am guessing it would be 1/64 if it is the smallest?

1/16 is pretty common, and 1/32 is a bit smaller, but occasionally 1/64 is used for very tiny parts. Hope that helps.

Many metric tools can be used instead of Imperial and there are only a few that are different enough to matter - unfortunately, the very small ones are the ones that can be the most particular.

[TomEG]

I don't know which size it is for that particular screw, but I am guessing it would be 1/64 if it is the smallest?

1/16 is pretty common, and 1/32 is a bit smaller, but occasionally 1/64 is used for very tiny parts. Hope that helps.

Many metric tools can be used instead of Imperial and there are only a few that are different enough to matter - unfortunately, the very small ones are the ones that can be the most particular.

Thanks,

I'll look for a 1/64 and give it a try!

Tom

[Backlash]

OK.

If you buy a 050' (50 thou), 1/16 and 3/32 allen driver, that should allow you to remove 99% of the screws in the car..

The only one I'm not sure of is the size required for the screws in the idler gears in the 6 gear tranny...

050' will fit the grub screws in the original pinion gears and collars on the swaybars..

1/16 will fit the counter sunk screws under the chassis, and also the button head screws..

3/32 will fit basically everything else (with the exception of the idler gears as noted above)

Cheers

[TomEG]

OK.

If you buy a 050' (50 thou), 1/16 and 3/32 allen driver, that should allow you to remove 99% of the screws in the car..

The only one I'm not sure of is the size required for the screws in the idler gears in the 6 gear tranny...

050' will fit the grub screws in the original pinion gears and collars on the swaybars..

1/16 will fit the counter sunk screws under the chassis, and also the button head screws..

3/32 will fit basically everything else (with the exception of the idler gears as noted above)

Cheers

Thanks Backlash!

Tom

[civilguy]

The only one I'm not sure of is the size required for the screws in the idler gears in the 6 gear tranny...

The only reason for taking those out would be to replace bearings, but most of the time those screws are impossible to remove as the directions tell you to put CA on the backside of the idler gear where the threads are exposed!!

The only reason I mention this is the new black idler gears (still sold today and much tougher than the old white ones) come with the screws and the correct allen wrench. ASC6614 $5 at one of the LHS http://www.hobbyetc.com/cgi-bin/item.cgi?part_id=8218

Good luck... the Imperial forces are strong...

[Spetz83]

Imperial sizes/dimensions are so stupid and pointless.

I don't know why they still use their idiotic system. Just to be different?

[TomEG]

Imperial sizes/dimensions are so stupid and pointless.

I don't know why they still use their idiotic system. Just to be different?

....and I couldn't even spell it right! ;-)

[TomEG]

hehe,

after unsuccessfully visiting every store I could possibly think of having this particular allen wrench, I went home and bumped in to my uncle who's living next door. He's a former mechanic, working with LARGE machinery, like dumpers, bulldozers etc. I asked him if he might have one of the smallest imperial sized wrenches. And of course he had...... they used them for some of the hydraulics on those large machines. Hehe, it was available next door, while I was running around town.

I'll remember to ask him first next time I'm looking for a tool!

Tom

[Spetz83]

....and I couldn't even spell it right! ;-)

hehe yeah I noticed

But seriously how stupid is their system? Why are there 12 inches in a foot?

What the badword is a mile, yard, and gallon based on? What about Farhenheit degrees? Completely retarded

[fatboyslim]

hehe yeah I noticed

But seriously how stupid is their system? Why are there 12 inches in a foot?

What the badword is a mile, yard, and gallon based on? What about Farhenheit degrees? Completely retarded

Hmmmm obviously not English!!

The Imperial system was based on everyday things

A foot contains 12 inches because the average adult FOOT is 12 INCHES long

A MILE is derived from the Latin word MILLE meaning a thousand, as a MILE is 1000 ROMAN double paces, which is roughly 5000 feet (a mile is 5280 feet)

Furlongs,Chains,Links,Rods were all Imperial units

As for temperature measurements there are many different ones, the UK uses Celsius or Centigrade (divided by 100)

Faherenheit,Kelvin,Rankine and Reaumur others which were devised by different people and are used in different things

0 degrees Celsius is 32 degrees fahernheit

0 degrees Celsius is 491.67 degree Rankine

0 degrees Celsius is 0 degree Reaumur

0 degrees Celsius is 273.15 degree Kelvin

If you read THIS it may make things clearer to you

[Spetz83]

I think the average foot size is less than 12 inches

And in any case, why 12" in a foot? Why not 10? ie, why not make an inch 30.5mm??

The metric system is perfect

1cm is 10mm

100cm is a metre

1000m is a km

Water freezes at 0

Water boils at 100 deg C

1 litre is 1000cc

1kg is 1000cc of water

Perfectly logical

Why wont some countries like America and England change to such a better system?

Is it to be different or something??

[grizy]

To be perfectly logical shouldn't we be using binary

btw

The UK has been using the metric system for quite a few years now.

However, there is still some resistance to getting rid of imperial.

Many people who grew up with imperial measurements find it hard to use metric.

[terry.sc]

why not make an inch 30.5mm??

Because imperial measures have evolved from ancient Egyptian measurements as far back as 2500BC, the metric system was only made up in the 1800s, so the question should be why not make a millimetre 1/25th of an inch.

Imperial measurements developed in a time when people didn't have rulers, so a foot was the length of a foot in the shoe, an inch the width of a thumb, the yard from the nose to the thumb, an acre was how much field could be ploughed in one day, etc.

If you have no ruler there is no quick equivalent of a centimetre or metre.

[kontemax]

Because imperial measures have evolved from ancient Egyptian measurements as far back as 2500BC, the metric system was only made up in the 1800s, so the question should be why not make a millimetre 1/25th of an inch.

Imperial measurements developed in a time when people didn't have rulers, so a foot was the length of a foot in the shoe, an inch the width of a thumb, the yard from the nose to the thumb, an acre was how much field could be ploughed in one day, etc.

If you have no ruler there is no quick equivalent of a centimetre or metre.

Because it's easier divide for 10 than for 25 or 32 or 16.

All we use the 10 base cause we have 10 fingers in the hands (except Benicio Del Toro in Snatch!)

Simply it's easier, you only must add a Zero everytime you have a submultiple.

Max

[Spetz83]

That's what I meant as well with why use 12" in a foot and not 10" (and make an inch 30.5mm)

That way, 10' would be 100" etc

Either way though I think countries which haven't employed the metric system yet really should. Is there anyone besides UK and US though?

[Jonny Retro]

...

Why wont some countries like America and England change to such a better system?

Is it to be different or something??

The UK made the decision to go metric/decimal in 1966 - the fact that we're not all the way there yet just shows it's a long process, despite starting in 1971 with decimalising money.

I remember it being something of a relief in 1980 when it was decided we no longer needed to learn our 11 and 12 times tables

I'm guessing you're a youngin', and probably can't understand the inertia that's due to anyone older than you:

Anyone born 1920's & 30's generally is unwilling or unable to deal with anything other than imperial weights and measures

born in the 40's, 50's or 60's - will generally think in imperial, may be able to convert to metric, but it'll be a struggle

born in the 70's - probably cunnilingual - speaks both metric and imperial

born after 1980 - thinks in metric, lost with imperial

As for the US, it's even more conservative than the UK. In fact, with all the religious fundamentalism, I'm surpised they haven't gone back to really old skool measurements, like cubits, peck & bushels, etc

There's also the prestige of the space program in the US - it's not a big deal now, but in the 60's, 70's and 80's, it was everything - highly visible proof that the US had a bigger pinga than anyone else. I mention it because _everything_ in space is imperial - even the stuff made in europe. The simple reason is that when you're a long way from anything but hard vacuum, you do _not_ want compatibility issues. NASA is/was the biggest player, so everyone follows their lead.

No doubt the attitude of every American over 20 is, if it's good enough for US astronauts, then dogdamn boy, I want it on my car & not some newfangled yurpeen system

... but I'm dissembling here ...

[rajicon]

"The metric system is the tool of the devil! My car gets 40 rods to the hogshead and that's the way I likes it."

[TomEG]

Funny how my simple question about the tool size for a RC10 pinion screw has escalated into world politics ;-)

The dark force must be strong within the Empire!

Tom

EDIT:

This was a reply to a post that apparently has been deleted.

[kontemax]

Funny how my simple question about the tool size for a RC10 pinion screw has escalated into world politics ;-)

The dark force must be strong within the Empire!

Tom

EDIT:

This was a reply to a post that apparently has been deleted.

It was my comment to the previous post.

Kontemax