Team Orion Vortex Brushless Experience Combo

[TAZ-NZ]

I've looking around for a cost effective Brushless setup, and the Team Orion experience Combo look good but I can find very little in info on them, I guess as they are relatively new to the market.

This is the Team Orion Vortex Experience 40A ESC

and 3220kV Brushless Touring Motor Combo.

FEATURES: Ideal performance upgrade for brushless powered RTR on-road touring

cars

Sensorless brushless motor design with aluminum alloy anodized

front and back plates

Genuine carbon fiber center barrel in motor creates a tuned magnetic

field

Forward and reverse electronic speed control with auto transmitter

recognition and setup (no setup button needed)

INCLUDES: Vortex Experience Touring Car Motor with Connectors ORIC8171

Vortex Experience SL 40A ESC with Tamiya style battery plug and three

gold motor connectors #ORI65005

Instruction sheet

REQUIRES: Installing in vehicle and connecting to battery and receiver

SPECS: Touring Motor-

Resistance:0.019 Ohm

Current Draw: 2.5A

Turns: 13

Kv Rating: 3220 RPM/V

Max Efficiency: 84.5% @ 32A (210W)

Max Continuous Current: 32A

Max Current: 60A (efficiency 80% = 3800W

Length: 1.7" (44mm)

Can Diameter: 1.2" (30mm)

Weight: 4.9oz (140g)

Shaft Diameter: 0.125" (3.2mm)

ESC-

Input Voltage: 6-cell NiCd/NiMH, 2-cell LiPo

Maximum Continuous Current: 40A with cooling fan (not included)

25A without cooling fan

Peak Current: 90A

Resistance: 0.0033Ohm

Weight: 1.5oz (42g)

Length: 1.3" (34mm)

Width: 2.4" (61mm)

Height: 0.24" (6mm) without fan

Anti cogging

SLD (super linear drive) throttle control

COMMENTS: Team Orion rates this ESC at 40A when used with a cooling fan which

is not included. The maximum continuous current without a cooling

fan is 25A.

Has any got one of these combos or had a chance to have a good look or play with one, if so I be interest hear any comments you might have about it.

[Gruntfuggly]

I like the carbon effect on the motor...

My bad - it's genuine carbon - cool...

How much are they?

[TA-Mark]

By the look of it's specs it seems it would be a perfect motor/esc for a stock Tamiya chassis. Not so overly powerful it will break it and wear it out in a few runs.

Orion have always released good products that's I've known, I'd expect this to be no different for them to put their name to it.

One thing I notice is the can size is smaller than a 540. Should still power a 1:10 along fine as I've seen the Mamba25 fitted to TT01 before with very good results (usually for 1:18 scales) which is smaller than this motor.

Another few other budget systems to compare it to are the Ez-Run and Castlecreations Sidewinder systems.

In the long run you will end up infront with a brushless. I needed to replace my brushed motors every month atleast when running offroad. Since going brushless I've bought 2 motors (4600Kv and 5700Kv) and 1 ESC in 2 years. Both motors are still going strong with much use.

[TAZ-NZ]

How much are they?

At Tower $145usd on Ebay as low as $130usd.

By the look of it's specs it seems it would be a perfect motor/esc for a stock Tamiya chassis. Not so overly powerful it will break it and wear it out in a few runs.

Orion have always released good products that's I've known, I'd expect this to be no different for them to put their name to it.

One thing I notice is the can size is smaller than a 540. Should still power a 1:10 along fine as I've seen the Mamba25 fitted to TT01 before with very good results (usually for 1:18 scales) which is smaller than this motor.

Another few other budget systems to compare it to are the Ez-Run and Castlecreations Sidewinder systems.

In the long run you will end up infront with a brushless. I needed to replace my brushed motors every month atleast when running offroad. Since going brushless I've bought 2 motors (4600Kv and 5700Kv) and 1 ESC in 2 years. Both motors are still going strong with much use.

This will be my first step into brushless, I want to get away from the maintance & other issues of brushed motors, and the prices on brushed systems are now at a point they really don't cost any more than a good brushed setup. The Team Orion seems like a nice setup, compact, lightweight and with a fully sealed can , and like you say power output seem well suited to your average tamiya kit, I'm not out to set any speed record just find a nice reliable setup that a step up from my current Brushed + NiMh setups.

I looked at the ezrun system, and I know they are popular but something about them is put me off, don't know if it the too good be true prices you see on them some places or that ugly blue heatsink on the motors but something made me look around for other options. The castlecreations combos I haven't looked at as yet, I'll have to do a little more research on them. I now I don't want anything as extreme or as expensive as the Novak systems but I don't want to go to cheap either.

I'm in no huge rush to buy, rather do it once and get it right rather than have to do it again a couple of months later.

[Gruntfuggly]

What heatsink on the motor? The motor is just blue all over...

Doesn't look as nice as the Orion though....

[TA-Mark]

The heatsink finned can is an effort to increase efficiency. Less that is converted to heat means longer runtimes and more power to you. Less heat also makes things last a bit longer. I use a heatsink on my bushless motors whenever I can fit them.

[highflyer]

This setup is FAST, a fellow racer ran it in stock touring and he was clearly the fastest in our class!!