For Those Who Race, What Is Your Favorite Chassis?

[highflyer]

What is you favorite/best chassis when it comes to racing Onroad and Offroad (if you have/had both)? This is for PAST and PRESENT day racers so let's here it.

Surikarn EVO III for On-Road

501X hands down for Off-road

[yamita]

Have to go with 415 since I havent tried the 416 yet. Yokomo sd rayspeed comes in second. Handled better than my evo4.

[Singapore_959]

Have to go with 415 since I havent tried the 416 yet. Yokomo sd rayspeed comes in second. Handled better than my evo4.

Kyosho Fantom EP4WD

Everybody loves it and can't believe it's age and components!

Tamiya - RM1 just looks right.

[highflyer]

Have to go with 415 since I havent tried the 416 yet. Yokomo sd rayspeed comes in second. Handled better than my evo4.

I considered the SD before buying my EVO4.. I know a guy who races the SD and he loves it!

[highflyer]

Kyosho Fantom EP4WD

Everybody loves it and can't believe it's age and components!

Tamiya - RM1 just looks right.

Is that the chain drive Fantom?? A lovely machine they are

[rc-martin]

Xray T2'008. It's the only car i've ever won an A Final with.

[yamita]

The sd is quite old, but yokomo knew what they were doing when designing. Diff maintenace and spur change is much easier compared to the evo series. You can tell the car was designed with racing in mind.

I considered the SD before buying my EVO4.. I know a guy who races the SD and he loves it!

[terry.sc]

For present I only race onroad.

My favourite is my home built hybrid Associated/Trinty WorldGT racer.

For touring cars I've yet to have any reason to upgrade from my RCLab 7even 7.6

My all time favourites are

Xpress Pro touring car

Off road

My much modified Kyosho Lazer ZX

Modified Kyosho Ultima

[TA-Mark]

Top Force Evo spec chassis'd DF01 for me offroad. The belt drive buggys don't live long in the condition we race in and DF01 is fully sealed gearboxes.

Onroad there is no where to race local... yet... when we do I will arm myself with an Evo5.

For drifting, TA03F Pro.

[highflyer]

The sd is quite old, but yokomo knew what they were doing when designing. Diff maintenace and spur change is much easier compared to the evo series. You can tell the car was designed with racing in mind.

Well, he took some laps with my EVO4 and he said it was a more SOLID chassis. He races his SD in the Big races here on the West Coast..

[Singapore_959]

Is that the chain drive Fantom?? A lovely machine they are

Yup. BEAST!

Esp with the Golf MK1 body on it

[94eg!]

I love my 415 MSX MRE. It's held up well and won several times at the local races. Only complaint is that the chassis design will keep me from going lipo as most of my friends are doing. No sense paying $100 for a stick pack conversion to fit lipo when I could pay $75 for a used 416 (after selling the 415).

Before that I had a TA05 with penguin carbon chassis, but aftermarket stuff is never perfect. The upper deck took way too many shims to get level, and lower deck had a sway-back effect after assembly. I also setup my friends TA05-R with standard tub chassis, and the tweak in the front end was unnerving. To make the ride height level you had to have the FL & FR suspensions at very different positions. I've heard you can fix this by putting it in an oven, but I didn't wanna do that to someone elses car...

I've raced for one season now, so I don't have any other experience...

[yamita]

Your mileage may vary. Yeah the evo did feel more solid, but it's got alloy bulkheads and weighs more. Spur and diff access on the evo is a pain in the neck. I'm loving the msxx mre now. Much smoother than the shafty cousin.

Well, he took some laps with my EVO4 and he said it was a more SOLID chassis. He races his SD in the Big races here on the West Coast..

[yamita]

It's not impossible to mount lipos without special battery trays. I just position my lipo pack along the side of rear bulkhead and it gives me just enough room to wrap the tape around. You can add another piece of tape going perpendicular and the battery will be secure. I add weight toward the center line of chassis, so it does not disturb the balance. On the motor side, my brushless hangs out from the chassis, so the battery sticking out half inch doesn't really bother me. With this method, the car still handles better than my perfectly balanced evo.

I love my 415 MSX MRE. It's held up well and won several times at the local races. Only complaint is that the chassis design will keep me from going lipo as most of my friends are doing. No sense paying $100 for a stick pack conversion to fit lipo when I could pay $75 for a used 416 (after selling the 415).

[retroman]

My Favourite On-Road chassis' for racing;

Losi XXXS G+. Clever single belt transmission, and looks really cool when hopped up with all that Trinity red alloy! I raced a XXXS G+ for about 2 years, and the only thing that stopped me using it was when that awful JRX-S thing came out, and no one would stock Losi stuff anymore.......... A lovely, nuetral handling car, very easy to setup, and get good results with. I'll never part with this one.

Yokomo SD SSG. The most free running transmission I have ever had on any of my touring cars, and definately engineered with racers in mind. I've always found mine a little twitchy on indoor carpet tracks, but better outdoors. Chassis tweak was a real pain though....As well as the diff bolts exploding. Still got it!!

X-Ray FK04. Fantastic, another one I would never part with. Superb quality, and what has always impressed me with X-Ray cars, is there is never any slop in the suspension components. One thing that has never impressed me with X-Ray though...... they're shocks. They're awful, and never stop leaking. Fit TRF dampers!! Always used to make A finals at club level with this car.

As for off road? I've never raced off road, so I can't offer up an opinion on that one! Come to think of it, I have never raced a Tamiya on road chassis either!!

[highflyer]

Your mileage may vary. Yeah the evo did feel more solid, but it's got alloy bulkheads and weighs more. Spur and diff access on the evo is a pain in the neck. I'm loving the msxx mre now. Much smoother than the shafty cousin.

Only 1 season on the EVO4 so far, it does it's job at the local Tarmac track. The 2 piece Motor mount makes Spur access a little easier, diff is easy when it comes to adjusting .. I bet the MSXXXX MRE is all that!! I pit with TC members/friends 94eg!, richard.tufty and TheFantom, it's always a blast raceday/night...

[hedge]

I only race Touring cars

My first "proper" car was an Associated TC5, it was OK but I am not good enough to drive it, I suffer from Tweak which in turn makes the car harder to drive. I like the car its easy to work on and the setup is very straight forward.

I now race the HotBodies Cyclone its the Andy Moore editon. I like this car a lot, it handles well both indoors and outdoors and again is easy to set up. Importantly It does not suffer the same tweak problems as the Associated so pretty much every run is a good one. Its low maintenance from race to bag to race to bag - unless its an important race.

Next season I am looking to get the XRay 09 as my two best racing mates have gone for them so we will all have lots of spares :-)

[94eg!]

Full details and actual production photos (not prototype) on the 416WE available now at RedRC.net and Tamiya's Japanese site. Looks like it's got 3.5* rear toe, and includes roll-center spacers for the suspension blocks. Also gets fluorine sealed bearings, low friction belts, high lubrication dampers, and several other tricks...

http://www.redrc.net/2008/11/tamiya-trf416-worlds-edition/

Also, Tamiya's alloy servo saver horn for the High-Torque servo saver (54121) has finally hit the stores:

[retroman]

That's very pretty..................Makes me want to take up racing tourers again!!

[yamita]

Yokomo Sd ssg was the tweakiest car ever. Rayspeed converstion kept things stiffer and more tweak proof. Even if my car isn't noticeably tweaked, I redo all my top deck screws after every run. Doesnt take that long and since, Im checking the rest of the car, might as well do it for the peace of mind. I also noticed, brand new cars are more prone to tweak, because the carbon plates are still glossy and smooth, that the alloy bulkheads dont get enough friction to grip. After breaking my car in and the alloy parts have etched into the carbon plates, they stay consistant without the plates slipping too much. Some racers even scour the plates and alloy bulkheads for extra grip. Running countersunk washers on top deck keeps the car less tweaky, but stiffen things up a bit.

I only race Touring cars

My first "proper" car was an Associated TC5, it was OK but I am not good enough to drive it, I suffer from Tweak which in turn makes the car harder to drive. I like the car its easy to work on and the setup is very straight forward.

I now race the HotBodies Cyclone its the Andy Moore editon. I like this car a lot, it handles well both indoors and outdoors and again is easy to set up. Importantly It does not suffer the same tweak problems as the Associated so pretty much every run is a good one. Its low maintenance from race to bag to race to bag - unless its an important race.

Next season I am looking to get the XRay 09 as my two best racing mates have gone for them so we will all have lots of spares :-)

That 416 is nice, but I'll wait for the msxxxxx mre 416

[HunterZero]

I love my 415 MSX MRE. It's held up well and won several times at the local races. Only complaint is that the chassis design will keep me from going lipo as most of my friends are doing. No sense paying $100 for a stick pack conversion to fit lipo when I could pay $75 for a used 416 (after selling the 415).

I have a 415 MSX MRE too. Fantastic car.

You can get LiPo battery trays for the 415 from Bitty Designs, that moves the battery out a bit, and cost AU$45, or under US$30 at the current exchange rate.

415 LiPo Battery Adapter

- James

[garry]

I only regret selling a few TC's (and I've had loads!).

Tamiya TRF415, one of the only cars I had working with dual one-ways.

HPI Pro4, the only shaft drive car I liked.

RC Lab 7.7 GT3, carried soooo much corner speed.

I love my current car, an Xray T2'008. I like it so much that when I came back from a break of racing over the summer (after I sold up), I bought a second one .

[stulec52]

My current racers are :

X Ray 008

Tamiya M03R

RC10R5

Tamiya TT01E

all time Faves :

Associated TC3 for Touring cars.

Schumacher CAT 2000 for off road.

Mardave Ministock for best bang for the buck.

[Backlash]

My current Touring car is the Associated TC5, and I find it very easy to drive.. My favorite would be my old TC3, but the TC5 is a very close second..

My current Truck is the Associated T4, but I remember my T3 being easier to setup and drive (I havent driven the T3 for a few years..).

My current buggy is the Associated B4, and with some more track time, I feel I will like this car more that its older brother the B3..

My overall favorite race car, meaning the one that I've had the most fun with or gained the most enjoyment from running / racing would be my trusty old M03 Mini..

Cheers..

[BiggusDitchus]

May sound daft but having tried racing many classes including 1/10 tourers, 1/10 offroad both 2wd and 4wd, 1/5 car, 1/5th bike having tried vehicles from many manufacturers I still love racing Mardave V12 class, cheap and great fun.