Leethal Driver 86 Posted December 11, 2008 Ansmann Clash motors - dirt cheap compared to Tamiya Superstock BZ (favoured motor at mo). Begs the question are they any good? Give me some views Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deanej10 1 Posted December 11, 2008 I have a 15t in my Grasshopper and TT01, about the same top speed as a Superstock TZ but lacks the torque and acceleration obviously - battery runtime a little longer too, I would say good value for money but you get what you pay for! My hopper almost kept up with some E-Maxxs at a recent bash! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonny Retro 12 Posted December 11, 2008 Good value, but performance is less than sparkling - add 3 or 4 turns for a realistic idea of what they go like, i.e. an Ansmann 19 turn will perform about the same as an "average" 23 turn. I think you can work out that an Ansmann 23T is no better than a bog standard silvercan 27T 540. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bsr077 0 Posted December 11, 2008 Good value, but performance is less than sparkling - add 3 or 4 turns for a realistic idea of what they go like, i.e. an Ansmann 19 turn will perform about the same as an "average" 23 turn.I think you can work out that an Ansmann 23T is no better than a bog standard silvercan 27T 540. I ran an Ansmann 15 turn in a DF03RA at the lowest gearing I could and it was fast to start with but just got uber hot and burnt out after 2-3 runs. They aren't made to last. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qatmix 794 Posted December 11, 2008 I have a 15t ansman, it was not very good at all, my hunter systems motor was much quicker and the same price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lupogtiboy 452 Posted December 12, 2008 as with everything in life, you get what you pay for i've been running a clash21 turn in my tt-01 with a teu 101bk for a while now, and altho not blisteringly quick, its enough for me! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bugjammer 2 Posted December 12, 2008 I think youre find Ansmann motors are just good old Mabuchi 540s in 23 and 25 turn variants. Many companies such as HPI,Graupner and Traxxas just stick their own stickers on them We use Mabuchi 540SH as a control motor at the club i race at and I recently took apart an Ansmann clash to count the turns and it had 23 and looked identical to the Mabuchi item as supplied by Mardave, Huntersystems and others. hmmm...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BiggusDitchus 38 Posted December 12, 2008 I think youre find Ansmann motors are just good old Mabuchi 540s in 23 and 25 turn variants.Many companies such as HPI,Graupner and Traxxas just stick their own stickers on them We use Mabuchi 540SH as a control motor at the club i race at and I recently took apart an Ansmann clash to count the turns and it had 23 and looked identical to the Mabuchi item as supplied by Mardave, Huntersystems and others. hmmm...... No they arent rebadged mabuchi found in Mardaves (for a start they have a fan) although i would say the 23 turn clash offers similar performance to the stock older Mardave G2 motor. If you want a good cheap upgrade I would steer away from the Clash series (if your going to buy one I would stick with the 23), but Mardave have just released new motors and they offer a significant improvement in torque. Easily identified by the chrome sticker stuck around the can as opposed to earlier motor which had sticker inline with can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CR-01nut 0 Posted December 12, 2008 quite simply, no, they are not. they have no torque at all no matter what you do with the gearing. i would much rather stick with the standard silver can than have a ansmann clash in any of my cars. i find the only good ansmann stuff is there cheap buggy wheels and their slow chargers and battery packs. PS do NOT buy a ansmann fast charger as they last about a week tops. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HereBeMonsters 9 Posted December 12, 2008 In a very light car, they're great. Cheap enough that you can buy 4-5 for the price of one Tamiya spec motor. They are like a small displacement, high revving engine in a 1:1 car. Great fun, good top end, but will blow and have no torque. I had a 15T in my Mini, it was monster fast. Now in the Hornet and pretty good. It couldn't even make my Lunch Box wheelie - and the SuperStock BZ has it doing backflips. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leethal Driver 86 Posted December 13, 2008 Thanks Guys, saved me a fiver at least. Guess everyone has a favoured set up of motor and esc, am sure I'll work one out soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bugjammer 2 Posted December 13, 2008 No they arent rebadged mabuchi found in Mardaves (for a start they have a fan) although i would say the 23 turn clash offers similar performance to the stock older Mardave G2 motor. If you want a good cheap upgrade I would steer away from the Clash series (if your going to buy one I would stick with the 23), but Mardave have just released new motors and they offer a significant improvement in torque. Easily identified by the chrome sticker stuck around the can as opposed to earlier motor which had sticker inline with can. quick note about the new G2 motor - which was the reason i was pulling Ansmanns apart (the 2 i pulled apart didnt have fans btw) there are loads of them failing - and i mean LOADS - the copper on the comm seems really soft and the slots are closing up. We've even pulled apart new ones, skimmed them (shocking to see how out of true they are) and chamfered the slot edges and after about 3-4 races the copper has spread back and nearly closed them up again... and we are only running 4 cell cars - im still using an old V14 in my stock rod and its still well on the pace lol PS just found out the new G2 is the same as an HPI Saturn :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigoggy 203 Posted December 13, 2008 yeah ansmann are not great motors. i have a 18 and a 21 turn the 18 is only as fast as my orion 27 turn stock motor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spencem875 0 Posted December 13, 2008 I have burnt out 3 Ansman's motors but i was very abusive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIGGY 0 Posted December 13, 2008 I tried a 21 turn Ansmann in a Falcon just to see if it was any good as it was only a fiver...What a waste of time, it was absolutely **** and had no torque whatsoever. I should have guessed that the fact it was only five pounds was a clue to it's poor performance. I'm running a Sports Tuned in it now & it's 10 times better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfdogstinkus 1876 Posted December 27, 2008 I just put a 18T in my pumpkin!, and my mate has a 21T in his! So far, no complaints and the 18T is working with the standard Tamiya ESC (the 101BK?) only had a couple of runs with the 18T motor, but this EZRUN Brushless seems a better buy at the moment! I was running a stock tamiya 27T in mine and he had the 21T ansmann clash and his was much faster!!!(also with standard tamiya ESC) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfdogstinkus 1876 Posted April 10, 2009 I take it all back(what I said about these motors), my ansmann clash motor died today, less than 6 months old and not been used much, I had it in my pumpkin and soon realised it was rubbish so it was replaced with a 19T double Peak Racing motor, I recently fitted the Ansmann Clash 18T into the Mad Bull and it has lasted about a week!. Tried to run it today and it just won't move, the motor is free and will turn by hand but will not turn at all by battery, back to a stock silvercan in the Mad Bull now and everthing is working fine. Waste of £7 pounds E2A: I just chucked it on the floor, and now it works again??, nope it's stopped again, I think it's proper dead now. Edit again, It works again now after "dropping it" on the floor a few more times?, maybe something was caught in the brushes?, still not fitted it back into a car though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lentner3 281 Posted April 26, 2009 i have a couple of 15t ansmanns and they wipe the floor with the sports tuned and doesn't come close to a silver can. I guess i got a bit luckier than most of you guys top end especially. i've got a 60amp ezrun 10.5t in the post so i might be taken back by the power of it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevepi 7 Posted April 21, 2013 Just found this thread and I have used ansmann motors for ages with no complaints?? The 15turn ones are great fun! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gruntfuggly 562 Posted April 21, 2013 I think it depends what you do with them - I've had two of them die completely just from getting too much dirt in them... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dyahipfakta 50 Posted April 21, 2013 I must be winning them blew an 18t up on 8.4 volts in a mad bull. Lol 2 speed runs of about 20 meters and toast lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigSteve 149 Posted April 21, 2013 How good are hpi motors compared to ansmann. I'm thinking about putting a 20 turn hpi Saturn in my re re frog. At the moment it's running a 27 turn mabuchi. Steve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dyahipfakta 50 Posted April 21, 2013 Slower then turn rating suggests but I have one I have had for years and its been really good and brushes still have loads left. Just don't expect it to be a rocket. More 23 24t with a 20t hpi in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigSteve 149 Posted April 21, 2013 Any suggestions for a reasonable substitute, I'm looking for a motor that doesn't cost loads but will make my frog shift. Steve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dyahipfakta 50 Posted April 21, 2013 The 20t hpi Saturn is a good motor. It just won't be as fast as a 20t mod motor. I would recommend it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites