Paypal , Pending Payment !

[TWINSET]

Its still happening gents. theyve just witheld some funds of mine, now ive just rang them and asked them if its snet as a gift from freinds is this affected and the guy in customers service reckons not, so perhaps the way forward? i know the few bits and bobs ive bought of here the buyer has asked it to be marked up personal or gift

The problem with sending 'gift' payments is that you have absolutely no protection as a buyer - If you're gonna send payment as a gift, you may as well post cash or use Western Union - two well documented ways of getting ripped off

Unless you would trust your seller enough to post them cash, don't use Paypal gift -it's really there for people to give others money as a gift, not for buying goods.

[knotty]

The problem with sending 'gift' payments is that you have absolutely no protection as a buyer - If you're gonna send payment as a gift, you may as well post cash or use Western Union - two well documented ways of getting ripped off

Unless you would trust your seller enough to post them cash, don't use Paypal gift -it's really there for people to give others money as a gift, not for buying goods.

true.just seems as thought with ebay and paypal you have less and less rights as a seller of late

[TWINSET]

true.just seems as thought with ebay and paypal you have less and less rights as a seller of late

Yup, but having checked your feedback, you probably fall foul of one or more of these three;

You have an average Detailed Seller Rating (DSR) of 4.5 or less

You have received less than 20 Detailed Seller Ratings

You are listing your item in a higher-risk category

Not sure when they applied the DSR etc. but because you've only had 3 feedback for selling since February, then you've probably sold something that comes under the "higher-risk" category

This obviously doesn't help you at the minute, but once you've sold 20 items and received feedback and stars for them, then the fee holding should go away.

[knotty]

Yup, but having checked your feedback, you probably fall foul of one or more of these three;

You have an average Detailed Seller Rating (DSR) of 4.5 or less

You have received less than 20 Detailed Seller Ratings

You are listing your item in a higher-risk category

Not sure when they applied the DSR etc. but because you've only had 3 feedback for selling since February, then you've probably sold something that comes under the "higher-risk" category

This obviously doesn't help you at the minute, but once you've sold 20 items and received feedback and stars for them, then the fee holding should go away.

yeah thats basically the explanation i got from paypal,,the higher risk being items of higher value and/or a type of product that has a high comeback ratio eg electronics plus probably me being only a casual seller rather than a business seller (be interesting to mebbes hear from europro or shopkeeper as to what happens then).As a buyer though i do get it from a buyers point of view with the added protection and tbh the lad i sold the last item to left his feedback tonight and straight away they lifted the pending status on me funds.It just makes me wonder how susceptible we are to scam buyers though.What are the precedents for paypal giving a buyer the money back and what evidence they get for non delivery/damage etc?

[TWINSET]

It just makes me wonder how susceptible we are to scam buyers though.What are the precedents for paypal giving a buyer the money back and what evidence they get for non delivery/damage etc?

I doubt the buyers are told of any restrictions at the seller's end, otherwise it'd leave you wide open for abuse.

I've given up leaving things to buyer's honesty now, everything goes by recorded delivery so at least non-delivery is not an issue.

As for damage, touch wood that's never been a problem so far, but I guess as a seller it's a case of pack it well, insure it sufficiently.

Having just completed a dispute for fake goods, paypal are only too happy to give me my money back for that, and for non-receipt, but not had a damage case yet (either way) although I generally only buy off 99.5% FB sellers or higher now.

Out of interest, what category were you selling in when the funds were held?

The stupid thing about ebay is you can list something as a totally irrelevant category to get round their P&P price limits (ie CDs listed as radio control cars so as to avoid the £0.90 P&P limit) so it's down to the listing's categorisation more than the actual item I would guess

[knotty]

I doubt the buyers are told of any restrictions at the seller's end, otherwise it'd leave you wide open for abuse.

I've given up leaving things to buyer's honesty now, everything goes by recorded delivery so at least non-delivery is not an issue.

As for damage, touch wood that's never been a problem so far, but I guess as a seller it's a case of pack it well, insure it sufficiently.

Having just completed a dispute for fake goods, paypal are only too happy to give me my money back for that, and for non-receipt, but not had a damage case yet (either way) although I generally only buy off 99.5% FB sellers or higher now.

Out of interest, what category were you selling in when the funds were held?

The stupid thing about ebay is you can list something as a totally irrelevant category to get round their P&P price limits (ie CDs listed as radio control cars so as to avoid the £0.90 P&P limit) so it's down to the listing's categorisation more than the actual item I would guess

I always put them into what they are ie toys and games fr the cars(dont hate me, ebays catagory not mine) and plumbing for the shower. Its the first ive even heard of a p+p limit when youve mentioned it

[TWINSET]

They had a spate of limiting P&P charges on categories; 'books' were free, CDs were 90p

The only problem there was box set CDs were limited to the same 90p limit - once you've decided to use recorded delivery, the cheapest way of posting a CD (large letter) was £1.55, so no idea why this 90p limit existed.

They've since amended the charges to something like £2, but at the time, the easiest workround was to advertise CDs in a totally different category, get it listed, then edit the category back to CD once listed

EDIT;

Skip that, ebay's limit for postage on a CD is back to £1

That means any CD sold to 'auction' will cost the seller money - obviously we're all supposed to list them as BIN, incorporate the P&P charges into the BIN price, thus upping ebay's final value fee - Sweet

60g large letter, recorded delivery, £1.25 (second class post)