Color Help For F201 And Pennzoil Nismo

[beetleman]

Hi all,

I have been contemplating over colors for these two, perhaps you educated fellers can help me.

The F201 Ferrari manual indicates PS-2. However, with the new F-60 Tamiya released the 89922 PS F60 Bright Mica Red. Is this color correct for the F-201 as well? Did Ferrari ever change the color on the real cars?

As for the Pennzoil Nismo, I saw many people suggest using PS-19 camel yellow instead of what the manual says - PS-6. While the box art does seem more camel yellow than regular yellow, real car referrence pics show the 1:1 is in fact regular yellow.

Your thoughts are welcome.

Thanks,

Beetleman

[bakaguyjean]

Hi all,

I have been contemplating over colors for these two, perhaps you educated fellers can help me.

The F201 Ferrari manual indicates PS-2. However, with the new F-60 Tamiya released the 89922 PS F60 Bright Mica Red. Is this color correct for the F-201 as well? Did Ferrari ever change the color on the real cars?

As for the Pennzoil Nismo, I saw many people suggest using PS-19 camel yellow instead of what the manual says - PS-6. While the box art does seem more camel yellow than regular yellow, real car referrence pics show the 1:1 is in fact regular yellow.

Your thoughts are welcome.

Thanks,

Beetleman

Ferrari used a metallic red for the 2009 season and this is what color the bright mica red is. Ferrari switched back to normal red this year. I forget what model the F201 Ferrari is. do a little web search and Im sure you can find pictures for the different color used on Ferrari`s.

Pennzoil is yellow,PS-19 is more orange than yellow.

[Sayer]

Ferrari used a metallic red for the 2009 season and this is what color the bright mica red is. Ferrari switched back to normal red this year. I forget what model the F201 Ferrari is. do a little web search and Im sure you can find pictures for the different color used on Ferrari`s.

Pennzoil is yellow,PS-19 is more orange than yellow.

Yeah the Rockbuster in my avatar is Camel Yellow.

[Origineelreclamebord]

I doubt that the image you included is an actual photo... Looks like it's been animated to me Doesn't matter though...

Ferrari did change their colours over the years on their F1 cars. They have had dark red F1 cars in the past if I remember right, plain red ones, but the 2009 car actually looks slightly brighter to me...

As for the colours, I think Camel Yellow is just a little too orangy. I know that the plain yellow might be a little too much yellow, but I'd still go for that colour.

You could also look at what happens to the colours by backing it with other colours on some spare lexan pieces...

[beetleman]

bakaguyjean - that is very interesting that they actually changed the color. I don't know much about formula cars, but I think the F201 was F2001. See http://www.tamiyaclub.com/car.asp?id=299

Origineelreclamebord - why do you think the picture is animated? Search for "pennzoil nismo" on google images and you'll find a ton. I tend to agree with you on the yellow - I used camel yellow on my Durga and it is in fact very orangy.

At this point I'm thinking to use the paints Tamiya instructs. If they cared enough to produce a color especially for the F60 - this dedication to detail leads me to believe the colors they indicate in the manuals are accurate.

[Origineelreclamebord]

Origineelreclamebord - why do you think the picture is animated? Search for "pennzoil nismo" on google images and you'll find a ton. I tend to agree with you on the yellow - I used camel yellow on my Durga and it is in fact very orangy.

Well, properties of photography really Almost every single point in the image is pretty sharp (only slightly more blurry in the back - looking at the sponsors of the red Nismo). For this you need an exceptionally small diaphragm. This means you need either a high ISO/light sensitivity (which makes an image grainy), a very long shutter time and/or an irresponsible amount of light to make things visible again on the photo. So in theory it is kind of possible, but in practice, near impossible to achieve (And very unlikely that someone would want the corner of the garage to be nearly as crisp as the car in the front).

And there's something with the lighting. Looking at the garage doors it shows that it's pretty bright outside. When taking pictures, you'll notice that light coming from the direction you're photographing can make surrounding items or shapes look dark. However, the garage doors are visible in all their detail (and so does everything above the lights in the building - to which they don't shine as the lights are in buckets, deflecting the lights downwards). This means it has to be so bright inside that the garage windows wouldn't appear so light on the picture (as it would then be relatively darker to the inside of the building. Plus I forgot to add that even with a UV filter on your lens, the light coming through the garage windows would make the edges of the window appear less visible (more fade-like, like they did applied a bit to the lights in the garage).

Lighting like this is typical for animated images, as not every shape is actually made (and it's shadow made by the lighting), but shadow is often partially made into the texture images that make up the walls, the fire extinguisher, etc.

And lastly... Who on earth has ever seen a garage so spotless? Even a brand new garage has a scratch or mark somewhere (and not just in front of you on the floor), a sticker, a leaflet on the ground. A photographer would likely choose to keep some of these aspects in the image, and even if they remove this before the photoshoot or in Photoshop, it will still look different than this... It looks artificial to me

[tamiyoman]

I think the relections of the cars on the nice shiny polished floors show its a real picture, plus if you look closely there are marks all over the floor, its not spotless.

Cheers

[bakaguyjean]

This is a good site to see basic colors of F1 cars.

http://www.allf1.info/

You have to go to current teams and chose Ferrari,at the bottom of the page you can see the basic color of the F60 and the 2001. Futher web searches useing the model numbers on the All f1info page will show you the F60 is metalic and the 2001 is plain red.

Camel Yellow is very orange,if you visit the Tamiya website the Toyota Carrola is Camel Yellow. I would check the Pennzoil website itself to get a good idea of what Pennzoil should look like. I believe my buddy uses Tamiya yellow for Pennzoil.

[OCD]

I used the Camel Yellow on my Nismo Pennzoil body set and thought it was bit too orange:

http://www.tamiyaclub.com/showroom_model.a...=01072010174633

If I could do it over again, I'd probably go with regular PS yellow with the Camel yellow backing it, as it seems the real car color isn't represented in the PS paints.

[beetleman]

I used the Camel Yellow on my Nismo Pennzoil body set and thought it was bit too orange:

http://www.tamiyaclub.com/showroom_model.a...=01072010174633

If I could do it over again, I'd probably go with regular PS yellow with the Camel yellow backing it, as it seems the real car color isn't represented in the PS paints.

I actually think that's a great idea (backing the yellow with camel). It's a nice compromise utilizing both paints in that order - the camel backing may add that missing tone for the yellowish yellow.