Ff-01 Handling?

[jonjon]

Hey!

This is my first post here, I hope i put it in the right place...

Has anyone got any tips for successfully setting up an ff-01 so that you dont get massive oversteer?

I read somewhere that swapping the rear hubs so that the wheels are toe'd out helps but i havent had a chance to try it yet. Im considering adding weight over the rear end to add a bit of stability, but really only want to do it if its necesarry.

[Jonny Retro]

Hey!

This is my first post here, I hope i put it in the right place...

Has anyone got any tips for successfully setting up an ff-01 so that you dont get massive oversteer?

I read somewhere that swapping the rear hubs so that the wheels are toe'd out helps but i havent had a chance to try it yet. Im considering adding weight over the rear end to add a bit of stability, but really only want to do it if its necesarry.

But the monster lift-off oversteer is the FF chassis' best feature! Sure, it's way faster if you get the speed set early & apex a corner properly, but it's way more fun to go barrelling past the apex on full throttle, lift off & slam the steering over, then slide out on full throuttle & full opposite lock

Seriously though, my FF only oversteers if you really provoke it, otherwise it's fairly neutral. I haven't gone to great lengths to set it up either, just did what seemed right - front shocks are pretty hard, rears are pretty soft, rear has a little toe out, front is neutral.

[Origineelreclamebord]

Hey!

This is my first post here, I hope i put it in the right place...

Has anyone got any tips for successfully setting up an ff-01 so that you dont get massive oversteer?

I read somewhere that swapping the rear hubs so that the wheels are toe'd out helps but i havent had a chance to try it yet. Im considering adding weight over the rear end to add a bit of stability, but really only want to do it if its necesarry.

What you read about the rear uprights is 100% correct. When built as per instructions, your car will have toe-out. It's still do-able to drive it with the silver can and toe-out, but when I changed it around to toe-in (just swap the right and left uprights), the difference was amazing!

The car before the changes was very to steer into a corner, and hard to get it out of the corner. Also, running it on straights posed a problem (even with the silver can!) as it really wanted to go off course on the rear - Now I do admit I was running on a very low grip surface, but still... After I changed it, the car was pretty much in balance. The toe-in only gave real noticeable understeer when acceleration hard and steering at full lock. It's just a matter of technique with the understeer; If you want it to have no understeer, don't accelerate too hard an too early in corners, and before a corner, letting go of the throttle just before turning in often works for very slight oversteer which works well for quick cornering If it's not enough oversteer, you first turn the opposite direction, then release the throttle and at the same time turn into direction you want to go.

And if you still have too much oversteer after setting up the car with toe-in, you could try a front stabilizer, removing a rear stabilizer if you have one fitted, or making the rear suspension softer (I have the front suspension set up almost as hard as possible with the damping, and medium to hard springs, and the standard silver springs on the rear with the lightest damping possible).

PS: Note that my FF01 is converted to be a buggy, as it uses DF01 suspension arms. However, this of course doesn't affect the principle of being a FWD car and I assume that in setup approximately the same things apply (some handling features like the oversteer may have gotten exaggerated though due to the wheelbase/width ratio), especially since I mainly tested it onroad so far.

[sosidge]

FWD cars need a different driving style to 4wd or RWD cars - you have to get on the power a LOT earlier, it almost feels like you are doing it before the apex. This stops too much weight being taken off the back end. Just feather the throttle on turn-in to control the amount of slide from the back end -it's very satisfying when you get a FWD car flowing around the track!