Avante Coming Soon

[DaveN.Z]

You can already pre-order them from rc-champ. The price they quoted me was 31,000Yen which was what they got from the manufacturer but of course price may vary as it gets closer to the release date. I'm just hoping the Yen value to drop

I'm betting they will announce more little improvements before the release date.

Do you have the name of the person who quoted you 31,000yen. I telephoned RC-Champ this morning but the guy I spoke with wouldnt give me a price as they said they still hadnt had a confirmed price from Tamiya(even though the Tamiya website says 52000yen).

[Origineelreclamebord]

I really like the specs that are listed on Tamiyablog. Modern WO Universal Shafts, Clamp style hex adapters (does this mean though that the wheels will be different that the original?), carbon plate items... They really did their best to satisfy the Avante (re-release) fans by the sound of it, while trying to make a better more suitable runner, and keeping the hardcore collectors happy that it's easy to see the differences like the original.

However, that's only if apart from the mentioned changes it is actually completely like the original (especially in it's looks).

[Singapore_959]

I hope the Technigold will be re issued too, not because it was a particularly good motor but because how anyone can justify paying £130 for one is beyond me. Those greedy g*ts on ebay should be ashamed!

The Technigold is a fabulous motor. Terrific performance.

[Swarm]

Just got my Pre-order confirmed from rc-champ his first batch will be the T-Shirt editions .

I also asked about the 31,000 yen he said it could change no firm confirmation with Tamiya yet on price.

[tamiyoman]

Just looking at the proposed changes to re-re avante would imagine that with changes to the parts below one would "assume" values of original issue NIP items would only INCREASE.

Decals (Deleting of MOST sponsor logos combined with mostly new designs).

C Parts (Amended design/new material)

Chassis Plates (Carbon rather than FRP)

Front Uprights (Duralumin rather than cast alloy)

Damper Stays (carbon not FRP)

Drive Shafts (Re-Re using Universals)

Whereas the following should likely drastically DECREASE.

Body Shells/wings/undercowls

Most plastic parts (except for C parts)

Tyres (especially tyres!!!!)

Universal shaft sets

Wheels

Screw bags (unless they change the material/colour of course!)

There may be more but who knows

Is it me or are there about 3 times as many Avante parts on ebay than is usual, looks like the speculators have been caught on the hop

[backtomyroots]

Is it me or are there about 3 times as many Avante parts on ebay than is usual

Not necessarily. I think people are just paying more attention to the Avante listings now .

[TenzoR]

Do you have the name of the person who quoted you 31,000yen. I telephoned RC-Champ this morning but the guy I spoke with wouldnt give me a price as they said they still hadnt had a confirmed price from Tamiya(even though the Tamiya website says 52000yen).

I emailed them. No one quoted me on anything. The estimated price they got was 31000 Yen. It was not a firm price. If Tamiya decides to up the price, the price will go up.

[tamiyoman]

Nah a month ago or so, average avante listings (available each week) were about 65-75, as ot stands right now there are 159, think lots of people are clearing out.

[94eg!]

I still need an original rear damper cylinder (new)...

[tamiyoman]

No, there are definitely more parts on ebay right now! I have never seen nip ball ends for sale! Is it just coincidence then that 5 built Avantes just so happen to be on the listing pages at the same time, a couple of boxes, nip ball ends, just moments after the news of a re issue hits the site..............mmm whatever

Although i say, bring it on, the more parts that appear on the site the better for everyone

Yes thats what I noticed too, looks like a few are cashing in before the re-re lol, fair play if thats what they want but NO re-re is an identical original so whats it matter anyway?., ah well each to thier own lol

[casethejoint]

Imagine if they were strategically trying to undermine the grey market for vintage kits and parts? I'm not suggesting they are but it is viable.

I don't think it is a viable argument. There is no "grey market" for vintage kits and parts, just an after sales and vintage market which has always existed and which has always boosted the Tamiya brand, not diminished it.

The fact that Tamiya kits have traditionally become collectable over time does them no harm at all. If anything, you could argue that the re-re's are bad for Tamiya.

[TenzoR]

I don't think it is a viable argument. There is no "grey market" for vintage kits and parts, just an after sales and vintage market which has always existed and which has always boosted the Tamiya brand, not diminished it.

The fact that Tamiya kits have traditionally become collectable over time does them no harm at all. If anything, you could argue that the re-re's are bad for Tamiya.

Another way to look at it, the re-re will bring back some older hobbyist. These re-re will definite trigger some happy memories and thus bringing more people into the Hobby scene. If they started participating in local event, Tamiya has most major classes cover, sedan, mini, buggies, nitro, etc.

[Olly_Lunchbox]

As i have always said, any profitable company will do their research, they probably have a dedicated team assigned to monitor the vintage market. They know what kits re released will be profitable, they speculate anyway and they know that Avantes have increased and increased to ridiculous levels over the years (as have we all) and for a kit that was a flop and was reduced to £130 to get rid back in the 80's! They want a piece of the pie, simple and the fact they are re issuing it to very near the exact original specifications and thus know they can sell it at the retail price it is anticipated to be, says it all in my opinion

That's a bold statement. The first part I find laughable. The idea that there's an office somewhere deep inside Tamiya headquarters with some guys hunched over their computer terminals trawling eBay and through RC forums to see how much one collector is selling a vintage NIB to another collector for is an image I find very funny.

"Hey Mo look! Some guy in a place I never heard of the other side of the world just increased his bid for a part built Striker - go to amber alert and lock down the building!"

I don't think I buy the second part about Tamiya wanting a "piece of the pie" either. If Tamiya's motivation for choosing a model to rerelease was based on the price a vintage NIB was achieving (as researched by the dedicated department) then their very first rerelease would surely have been an SRB followed by a Blazing Blazer then an Avante and so on and so on. Heck, if Tamiya so concerned with how much vintage NIBs are going for amongst the collectors then why not just rerelease the entire first 100 and have the whole pie for themselves?

[backtomyroots]

thus know they can sell it at the retail price it is anticipated to be, says it all in my opinion

Okay by retail price are you (and everyone else) referring to the Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) that the item is listed at on the site (ie: tamiya usa prices) ?

Because I would like to once again remind everyone that the MSRP is never the street price. In fact, it is often as low as half the msrp on the street (this is not just appicable to r/c).

[GTodd]

I wish Tamiya would give us actual details already. The pics and vids that are up are of the 1988 vintage. Cant wait to see what the 2011 model is going to look lile. Ie what the decals, wheels, chassis, and shocks will look like.

[thetamiyakid]

Not long left to wait, the 2010 Tamiya Fair at Shizuoka is on this weekend so expect lots of photos of the display model popping up on all good websites and forums, and some bad ones too!!

[TenzoR]

I wish Tamiya would give us actual details already. The pics and vids that are up are of the 1988 vintage. Cant wait to see what the 2011 model is going to look lile. Ie what the decals, wheels, chassis, and shocks will look like.

They will tease us

[tamiyoman]

I wish Tamiya would give us actual details already. The pics and vids that are up are of the 1988 vintage. Cant wait to see what the 2011 model is going to look lile. Ie what the decals, wheels, chassis, and shocks will look like.

Give them chance mate, news has only been out a couple of weeks and we all know how much Tamiya like to drive up the interest on re-re's before the big "Taaa-Daaaa".

[GTodd]

I know I know, I love it, I feal like a kid durring Christmas. This car is going to be ran, I wonder how much 16 ball ends will cost ,I polished the ones on my orginal Avante because they were tarnished. If spare parts are abundant the original and its technigold might come out of retirment too. I havent ran it in a looooooooooong time because as you all know spare parts are few and faaaaaaaaaaaaaar between.

[GTodd]

Um did anyone notice how many views this thread has? There are almost 12,000 views. This is going to be epic. Funny to think that this car wll be 100% more succesful than its older brother.

[djmcnz]

Um did anyone notice how many views this thread has? There are almost 12,000 views. This is going to be epic. Funny to think that this car wll be 100% more succesful than its older brother.

Their first production run of the re-re is over 52,000 units so I think Tamiya are thinking it will be 10x100% more successful...

[DynaHead]

Come on people lets not argue. This is good news, and even better news that big T. is going to make loads of them.

Moving on to "the curious case for carbon."

Why would Tamiya re-re the Avante with a carbon chassis??? It's more expensive than FRP, was not in the original, and would not drastically improve performance to compete with modern buggies. So why?

One theory could be, and I hope I'm right, is that an Egress re-re is planned for a future release. If so, I hope we get a Vanquish in the distant future.

[WillyChang]

Egress's chassis is longer than Avante, so its still gunna be a different part.

Truth be told, when sourcing raw materials it isn't much dearer to spec Carbon fibre over Glass fibre.

A lump of charcoal VS a shovel of beach sand, huh?

[DynaHead]

Egress's chassis is longer than Avante, so its still gunna be a different part.

Truth be told, when sourcing raw materials it isn't much dearer to spec Carbon fibre over Glass fibre.

A lump of charcoal VS a shovel of beach sand, huh?

That's a good point.

[30cms]

i'd buy a rere sonic fighter.

perhaps that's me in the above picture!