Tamiya Club "Car of the month"

[Zeemax]

I was thinking if it would be a cool idea to hand out awards to best car of the month on the entire club.

Maybe break down into each month as a group

So

Jan = Special Racing Buggies (Scorcher-Champ Etc)

Feb = 3 Speed

Mar = Rally

Or Maybe Awards for the most "different" Car , so the car hasnt followed box art but still looks amazing.

Awards could be shown next the cars title in there showroom , pretty much like the people who have those starts next to there names

My idea may be to hard to work but others may have a good 1.

Also Awards to Memebers like we had on Robys @ the end of last year.

[Razer]

There are so many great cars on here I don't know how you could pick one. Too bad none of them are mine!

[SJoerD]

It's a bit hard and pointless to hand out awards... It's all a matter of taste in the end... []

Also, there are some 'over-restored' cars out there. Think of over-restoring like spending $200 to fix a Striker... Well, it'll probably cost a bundle to make it look nice... [] LOL [] But even spending something like $600 to make a Sand Scorcher look a bit nice is too much... Then it'll come down to 'who-has-the-most-money-to-spend-on-it?' contest, which is all wrong... [xx(] [v]

To those who are in it for the money - please get out. I know it's a bit irrelevant to this discussion but keeps annoying me, and mentioning 'over-restoring' reminded it again... [] People who do this to try and make money are in the wrong place. You'll be better of investing in houses or the stock-market. This is a world in which only people which great enthusiasm for RC-CARS should be, not with great enthusiasm for MONEY. [!] I'm sorry but I can't understand what you are doing here if all you see is cash & cheques. I simply hate people who buy cars at a flea-market and sell then on Ebay to fill their pockets. It makes me feel gutted and very pi$$ed off everytime I see something that makes me remind this again... [v] []

You might be surprised hearing this from a 16-year old, but I will never hold back because of my age! [^] This is my opinion and I am holding onto it... []

Sjoerd

[netsmithUK]

Hi Sjoerd,

Awards don't just have to be about restoring, as long as your choose the right categories then how much money you have doesn't come into it eg 'most helpful', 'best custom paintjob' etc

I think you are mixing up a few issues in your reasons though.

Sure there are people in the game that are just here for 'investment' purposes but I think they are in the minority. If you just wanted to make money by investing it wouldn't make sense to do it in tamiya cars - they are much better/safer things to invest money in.

Secondly people should not be penialised for having more money than others. If i had more money I would spend it on more cars and parts - it wouldn't change my attitude as a collector. If you have the money and choose to spend it on cars then I say great, its as good as hobby as any to spend your money on.

I would say that the type of people that spend $100's fixing up cars, are not the sort or person that are in the game for making money reasons. As you pointed out that just doesn't make sense. The people that generally spend lots on making restoring a car, usually end up spending more than the car is worth in parts and time. These people are doing it for the love of the model, not to make money.

And finally if someone 'saves' a model from a flea market/garage sale/house clearence or whatever and that gets the car back into collector circulation then that is also a good thing. If they make money along the way fine. If they didn't buy it could be thrown away or sold to some kid to see how far it runs once it has been set on fire.

Chris

Chris

[DJTheo]

quote:These people are doing it for the love of the model, not to make money.

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Propably, but could there be also a bit of guys competitive spirit inside? We are guys and from nature competitive, who has the more, the best, the biggest, the fastest... []

Have unfortunatelly seen it sometimes in sick portions (also in other hobbies), where the hobby stops to be a hobby and becomes a substitude or complex... [][V][xx(]

[J3cubfan]

IMHO, I think that a car of the month would sour this web-site. Chris has done a fantastic job displaying the showcases once they come on site and depending upon volume of reviews and showroom updates, I think this site is alot more dynamic than one that would have the same picture of a R/C vehicle for an entire month.

[Shodog]

I don't think it is a good idea to have a car of the month. It leads to too much competitiveness and somebodies feelins are going to get hurt. The whole thing comes down to being recognized for the job you did on a car. I really think that we have become oversaturated on this website with some amazing cars. some people have made some really nice restorations cars. I think instead of having a car of the month, people should give the restorer feedback by sending him an email saying what you like about their car.

On the subject of over restoring, I don't know of many who haven't spent a little too much on restoring a particularly dear car. I don't mind spending a little extra, to get that special part I need. I am not restoring these vehicle in the hopes of reselling these on Ebay, I am restoring them for me. I would never be able to recoup the cost of parts and the time I spent restoring a car.

I don't see whats the problem with reselling parts or cars on Ebay. Like Chris said, if you can save a car from the flea market and put it back into collector circulation then we are all for the better. In fact I just got back from the flea market. I didn't find a darn thing. It's really hit and miss with those types of things. I have bought many vintage parts from a hobby shop bargain bin to resell at a profit on ebay. while yes you might be paying twice, three or maybe ten times the original price, at least you have a chance to buy it. Unless you lived by me and go to the same hobby shop, there would be no way you would have a chance to buy the part. From the profit of these parts, I turn around and buy other parts at similarly inflated prices. If I wasn't able to do this, I wouldn't be able to have a collection as large as the one I have. It's not that I am out to gouge someone, it's just a means to an end. More cars and parts in circulation mean lower prices.

Jim

[SJoerD]

OK guys, sorry for that. I wasn't really thinking what I was saying there.. [] I need a little more sleep I guess. [|)] It won't happen again after a good sleep (I hope... [])I was confusing some issues there. It's just that some ppl are trying to make money out of it. That makes me feel a bit gutted because that's not what it's about. As Chris said, trying to make money out of it simply doesn't make any sense, there are so many other (and much better!) ways of doing so... But there are still ppl trying... []

And your right: if you're over-repairing you can't be in it for the money... D'oh! [xx(] In fact, it's the other way round. Still, that doesn't make any sense either...

And if you are saving it by bringing it back in the circulation that's a good thing either. But not if you are trying to make MASSIVE profit out of it. Like, if I found a car very cheaply and I don't want it (quite rare though...), then I would either trade it or make sure it goes to someone I know and who really wants it. I would ask a modest price for it though. That always be better than setting it on fire... [] LOL I found my first vintage pieces on the flea market as well! [] (didn;t seel any of it though...) I am forgetting everything here... [] LOL

[?] I know this has been mentioned b4, but maybe you can make a little comments table under each car where ppl can write their comments on a specific car? Maybe it's too much of a hassle in the end... [|)]

Sjoerd

[DanielSchenstrom]

Personally I'm all for it, although the format could be slightly different. Once a month is totally ok, this is just another suggestion.

Maybe som kind of award like "showstopper" or somesuch and used for it's own small gallery, so all the really incredible looking cars could be collected in one place. This would ease browsing quite a bit, and as someone who is using a modem that would be greatly appreciated.

How this would hurt someone's feelings I really don't understand. I could understand if it was the other way round (i.e. with worst/ugliest) but this would only serve to highligth some of the best without saying that others are bad. This is the way with a lot of things in life. Still if some are to sensitive if they don't get the awards, then by all means, don't have it.

[J3cubfan]

Hello sjoerd:

I truly respect your opinion and see where you are coming from. I am guilty of doing this but to a point, actually for several reasons: Mainly to practice and develope my skills as a modeler and eventually to offset the cost of a car that I really want. I am still holding out for NIB Tamiya Holiday Buggy. I may treat myself to one on my Birthday, which is June 2nd. (hint hint)[] I purchased a Pajero on Ebay last January and sold it restored in September. I did the same thing with the Falcon.[xx(] Although that was not restored. I just lost interest in it.

I make no bones about it when it came time to selling my cars. I've sold these cars not necessarily to make money, if anything I lose money.[] But to offset the costs and gain experience in restoring these wonderful machines. []

Respectfully,

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quote:Originally posted by Sjoerd

To those who are in it for the money - please get out. I know it's a bit irrelevant to this discussion but keeps annoying me, and mentioning 'over-restoring' reminded it again... [] People who do this to try and make money are in the wrong place. You'll be better of investing in houses or the stock-market. This is a world in which only people which great enthusiasm for RC-CARS should be, not with great enthusiasm for MONEY. [!] I'm sorry but I can't understand what you are doing here if all you see is cash & cheques. I simply hate people who buy cars at a flea-market and sell then on Ebay to fill their pockets. It makes me feel gutted and very pi$$ed off everytime I see something that makes me remind this again... [v] []

You might be surprised hearing this from a 16-year old, but I will never hold back because of my age! [^] This is my opinion and I am holding onto it... []

Sjoerd

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[WillyChang]

quote:Originally posted by Sjoerd

...Then it'll come down to 'who-has-the-most-money-to-spend-on-it?' contest, which is all wrong... [xx(] [v]

To those who are in it for the money - please get out.

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Sounds like Sjoerd has been hanging around at too many Concours D'Elegance shows for 1:1 classic cars, given his affinity for Jensens and AH ... [] I won't even mention US Pebble Beach.

[TWO STAR]

i disagree,i think it would be better to have a random pick car

for car of the month with no prizes (just bragging rights)only,the random pic would be done by administration only.also i love tamiya cars and i dont care how much i spend into a particular model(within

reason).some of us are by the book,others not.thats why it makes it interesting.over-restoring i think is irrellavent!,some peoples tastes

are different than others,dont burn them on that....we all have our reasons for doing this...competitions are great for racing,but for pics??????.i didnt join this club to compete with other people,i joined to meet other people worldwide that share the same interests

as I.

[DJTheo]

quote:I don't think it is a good idea to have a car of the month. It leads to too much competitiveness and somebodies feelins are going to get hurt. The whole thing comes down to being recognized for the job you did on a car. I really think that we have become oversaturated on this website with some amazing cars. some people have made some really nice restorations cars. I think instead of having a car of the month, people should give the restorer feedback by sending him an email saying what you like about their car.

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Shodog, couldn't agree more! [8D] Everybody has his own taste and should reward something he likes with a nice comment, it doesnt take a minute.

quote:Maybe som kind of award like "showstopper" or somesuch and used for it's own small gallery, so all the really incredible looking cars could be collected in one place. This would ease browsing quite a bit, and as someone who is using a modem that would be greatly appreciated.

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I think what made Tamiyaclub such a great sucess is that accepts also "normal" cars and not only perfect rare ones, like on many sites before... I think such a categorisation would be against its concept, just my thought...