Holiday Buggy Appreciation Society

[GregM 1109]

Me neither, all I found was the lexan Rough Rider shell.

[Mokei Kagaku 2919]

All the "Holiday Buggy" lexan bodies I've seen, have been the old original HB-lookalike from an Italian RC-manufacturer (Mantua possibly) and later versions of it manufactured by other companies. Defunct German company Prafa had it and Deltaplastik still offers it. It doesn't look too bad, but unfortunately, it's quite a lot bigger than the original Holiday Buggy body, with huge rear fenders that make even 2.2" truck tires look small. The original manufacturer included it with an entry level RWD GP-buggy they offered in the late '80's.

I have a couple of this body, but I'm struggling to find a suitable chassis for it.

Edit: I've checked a bit, and the mentioned lexan body was indeed from Mantua and was included with their RWD 1/8 GP-buggy "Nevada Cross". With a wheelbase of about 270-280mm (difficult to judge exactly with the long swooping front fenders), I'd say it's rather 1/9 scale though.

[kirk13 129]

Well,I've won an auction on eBay for a HB2010,based on what I've read in this thread

Here's hoping it'll be as good as the hype

[Nobbi1977 1793]

Well,I've won an auction on eBay for a HB2010,based on what I've read in this thread

Here's hoping it'll be as good as the hype

You will be needing more shocks, pinions and bearings then!

[kirk13 129]

You will be needing more shocks, pinions and bearings then!

Yeah,but it will have to wait til I get the Mad Bull and the Rising Fighter finished

[80sBasher 25]

Anybody in the US know where to get those Carson wheels, or something very close to them in appearance, domestically? I only see them for sale in Europe and at a ridiculous price.

[taliesin 260]

I've never found them in the US but ordered a few sets from overseas without issue - other than expensive as you noted.

They really do look wicked on the HB2010 and work well too. Makes it easier to justify....

[GregM 1109]

What follows is my personal opinion, and of course you're allowed to disagree.

The Carson All-Terrain wheels look nice on photos. Once unpacked, they aren't that nice in reality. Plus, they emit a pretty nasty chemical rubber stench that stays for weeks. I found this to be similar with cheap fake Monster Beetle tires sold by Seben Racing.

The tires are pre-glued to the wheels without foam inserts. The wheels themselves are shiny and more brittle than they should be. One of the front wheels I got had not enough material between the 1150 bearings fitting, so once mounted on the axle it had a tendency to wobble around, since the locknut couldn't reach the bearings all the way.

80sbasher, if you can't find them without paying an arm and a leg for importing, I'd advise against buying a set Carson All-Terrain wheels. An alternative would be keeping the original Tamiya front and rear wheels (the pre-mounted tires are tight-fitting, but not glued), and just buying a set of 2.2" rear tires for mixed on/offroad surfaces. The yellow (or black, in case of the red edition HB 2010) wheels will grow on you, as they did on me. This way means you can also place a foam insert between wheel and tire for better handling. Glueing the 2.2" tire will be necessary to make it stay on the slightly smaller wheel.

[80sBasher 25]

Yep will probably stick with the stock for now.

[DACAR 2]

Hello,

I could not resist to buy this kit.  It will be gift for my 5 year old son. We will build it together and I hope he will enjoy building and driving it. Since this is my first Tamiya, I don't know what to expect. I read about upgrades, but for now, it will be build stock with just bearings replaced with metal ones.

I have a few questions. We will be running it on 2S Lipo. What capacity do you recommend? Smaller and lighter or bigger and heavier? What would be runtime on a 2200 or 4000 mAh 2S Lipo battery with stock 380 motor? Kit comes with ESC TEU101BK... no BEC! ... do I need to add one? Would be FS-GT2B good radio for this car?

[Fuijo 913]

It might be a good plan to get a steel pinion for it as well, for longevity.

With regard battery capacity, my original Holiday Buggy used to run for around 15-20 minutes on a 1200mah NiCad.

So how old are you? You might be elegible for a free bus pass before a 4000mah LiPo goes flat.

[GregM 1109]

 

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I read about upgrades, but for now, it will be build stock with just bearings replaced with metal ones.

 

Welcome to TC! Replacing the bushings with metal bearings is always a good thing. Everything else (oil dampers, etc.) can be done later, but only if you really want to. The brass pinion is permanently pressed onto the 380 type motor, so it can't be easily replaced with a steel pinion.

 

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I have a few questions. We will be running it on 2S Lipo. What capacity do you recommend? (...) Kit comes with ESC TEU101BK...

 

I'd strongly advise adding either a low-voltage alarm or low-voltage cutoff suitable for LiPo batteries. They are sold separately by aftermarket suppliers (but not by Tamiya). Otherwise, you risk shortening your LiPo battery's life permanently through deep discharging (going below the specified cutoff threshold).

 

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no BEC! ... do I need to add one? Would be FS-GT2B good radio for this car?

 

The TEU-101BK does not feature a BEC, as you already found out. As far as I can see, the receiver of the GT2B expects an input voltage of up to 6.5V, so it doesn't have BEC included either. So With this radio set, you'll also need a separate external BEC (sometimes called U-BEC). Otherwise, you risk frying your servo and receiver, or in lesser cases you'll experience twitching and sporadic loss of control.

[mr crispy 2295]

As for run times the 380 motor will go for ages on any large capacity battery. Mine lasted a good 60-90mins of trail running with a 3300 nimh pack. 

Ive run mine with TEU101 and non BEC receiver on a 2s lipo and not noticed any problems. I do always use a low voltage buzzer to protect the lipo.  

[DACAR 2]

Thanks guys. You are very helpful.

Yes, I think pack, that will give me 60 mins of driving would be enough.

I use strong servos in my crawlers, but this one doesnt need so much torque I think. What would be a good cheap servo for this model (from HK)? And which BEC should I use for this car (also HK)?

[GregM 1109]

You're welcome. I guess you're located in Hongkong then?

My favourite servo for light cars is the Futaba S3003. It's not the cheapest of all, but from all the low-budget servos I tried, this one saved me all the trouble (loud noise, centering problems) I had with the cheapest ones.

For BECs, this is the one I use when necessary:

http://www.d-edition.de/RC-Modellbau-Zubehoer/Elektronik/Servos/Carson-BEC-Modul-High-Voltage-fuer-Tamiya-Fahrregler-TEU101--TEU104.html

Specs:

Input: 7.2V to 8.4V  (6-cell NiMH, 7-cell NiMH, 2s LiPo)
Output: 5.8 V
Available current: 1.4 A

I guess there are similar BECs available by other manufacturers.

[DACAR 2]

I am from Slovenia. By HK I meant Hobbyking. Sorry for the confusion

 

 

[GregM 1109]

No worries. Regarding the S3003, keep in mind there are fake ones out there with much lower quality:

http://www.rcmodelreviews.com/fakefutabaservos.shtml

[DACAR 2]

OK, me and my little boy have finished the build. It was fun and with almost no problems (some screws were really hard to tighten?!).

At the end we used a Carson Servo CS-6 MG (Waterproof),Turnigy 3A UBEC with Low Voltage Buzzer, stock motor and ZIPPY Compact 2200mAh 2S 35C Lipo Pack. Everything work nice and car drives really well. I am very happy.   Battery laaaasts so long, that I do not need another one and stock motor on 2S is really FAST! 

Great car for great price.

 

 

[GregM 1109]

I'm glad to hear you're having fun!!

 

This is mine:

 

More pics and build thread:

 

[DACAR 2]

Very nice

Here is ours.

[GregM 1109]

Thanks, yours is looking good, too. Nice paintjob on the driver and exterior. Those fender decals are a pain to apply, aren't they?

[DACAR 2]

Thanks. Yes, decals were a big pain in the A**. I expected decals to be precut. It was painfull process and yes, fender decals were the hardest to apply. I used scalpel knife and scisors for cutting them and lots of glass cleaner for applying. It turned out very nice so it was worth the time.

[Biz73 603]

Can I join your club? I'm going to build it stock except bearings and an SRB bumper(like GregM did). I have a steel pinion and a motor plate for when I change to a 540. I'll probably get oil dampers at some point, but for now I'm sticking to the pogos. I can't wait to see this running on the beach with my Sand Scorcher, old school fun!

[Biz73 603]

mr crispy, I know you already sold your Holiday Buggy, but do you happen to still have the template for your chasis cover? This is intended to be a beach runner along with my Sand Scorcher, so I need to keep the sand out as best I can.

Thanks

[GregM 1109]

If you can't get a specially made chassis cover (like those made by SuperGripper), you can also modify a Sand Viper bodyshell. I got that idea back in the day from Mokei's re-re Holiday Buggy, brillant!